Saxum Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, 716er said: Dropping all restrictions is a silly idea. It is not silly. Their actions are self centered and stupid. Edited September 8, 2020 by Limeaid Modified since misinterpreted.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 8, 2020 Author Posted September 8, 2020 18 minutes ago, Limeaid said: It is not silly. It self centered and stupid. Eh. I understand the frustrations and the thinking behind it. I don't see what name calling helps. I just think it's a line of thinking based on mistaken premises - for example, the premise that if we open up fully with covid-19 still surging, the economy will go back to normal.
shoshin Posted September 9, 2020 Posted September 9, 2020 18 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Eh. I understand the frustrations and the thinking behind it. I don't see what name calling helps. I just think it's a line of thinking based on mistaken premises - for example, the premise that if we open up fully with covid-19 still surging, the economy will go back to normal. It won't and being open is not all about the economy.
BillsFan4 Posted September 10, 2020 Posted September 10, 2020 (edited) https://apnews.com/4ee025ba6c4c19c024ce384503f23ef3 ‘South Carolina 3rd grade teacher, 28, dies from COVID-19’ https://j7dfh9pbumnyhazfmcsfgm9m.apnews.com/3e97872bf3cd8697064014efcf2ec622 she’s at least the 4th teacher to die so far this school year. Quote AshLee DeMarinis was just 34 when she died Sunday after three weeks in the hospital. She taught social skills and special education at John Evans Middle School in Potosi, Missouri, about 70 miles (115 kilometers) southwest of St. Louis. Quote A third-grade teacher died Monday in South Carolina, and two other educators died recently in Mississippi. It’s unclear how many teachers in the U.S. have become ill with COVID-19 since the new school year began, but Mississippi alone has reported 604 cases among school teachers and staff. Edited September 10, 2020 by BillsFan4
plenzmd1 Posted September 10, 2020 Posted September 10, 2020 14 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: https://apnews.com/4ee025ba6c4c19c024ce384503f23ef3 ‘South Carolina 3rd grade teacher, 28, dies from COVID-19’ Hmm. interesting...from the article She was at the school on Aug. 28, during a week of teacher workdays before the school year began. She started teaching the following week from home, officials said. Quote AshLee DeMarinis was just 34 when she died Sunday after three weeks in the hospital. She taught social skills and special education at John Evans Middle School in Potosi, Missouri, about 70 miles (115 kilometers) southwest of St. Louis. hmmm..not teaching kids either Jennifer Heissenbuttel, DeMarinis’ sister, said DeMarinis, 34, died on Sunday after three weeks in the hospital with COVID-19. She said her sister had returned to her classroom to prepare for teaching in the fall, but had not yet started teaching students when she became ill. https://dailyjournalonline.com/news/local/education/potosi-teacher-dies-after-fight-with-covid-19/article_d63ac30d-8f78-5a5f-bb8d-1d10c21878e8.html So what should be the takeaway? 1
BillsFan4 Posted September 10, 2020 Posted September 10, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said: Hmm. interesting...from the article She was at the school on Aug. 28, during a week of teacher workdays before the school year began. She started teaching the following week from home, officials said. hmmm..not teaching kids either Jennifer Heissenbuttel, DeMarinis’ sister, said DeMarinis, 34, died on Sunday after three weeks in the hospital with COVID-19. She said her sister had returned to her classroom to prepare for teaching in the fall, but had not yet started teaching students when she became ill. https://dailyjournalonline.com/news/local/education/potosi-teacher-dies-after-fight-with-covid-19/article_d63ac30d-8f78-5a5f-bb8d-1d10c21878e8.html So what should be the takeaway? My takeaway was that we have teachers of all ages who are at high risk and we need to take that into consideration as we start reopening schools and do our best to protect them (funding, safety protocols, PPE, etc.). Edited September 10, 2020 by BillsFan4 1 1
plenzmd1 Posted September 10, 2020 Posted September 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: My takeaway was that we have teachers of all ages who are at high risk and we need to take that into consideration as we start reopening schools and do our best to protect them (funding, safety protocols, PPE, etc.). and we have plumbers and janitors and public bus drivers and lawyers and judges and doctors and real estate agents and ....every profession and every job in the world that has high risk people in them.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 12, 2020 Author Posted September 12, 2020 If the goal is to vaccinate enough people to break the back of this pandemic, apparently the course being pursued of CDC telling governors to prepare to vaccinate people by Nov 1 may be highly counter-productive, because people who believe in vaccination and want to be vaccinated are worried that science and safety are taking a back-seat: "Seventy-eight percent of Americans worry the Covid-19 vaccine approval process is being driven more by politics than science, according to a new survey from STAT and the Harris Poll, a reflection of concern that the Trump administration may give the green light to a vaccine prematurely. The response was largely bipartisan, with 72% of Republicans and 82% of Democrats expressing such worries, according to the poll, which was conducted last week and surveyed 2,067 American adults." https://www.statnews.com/pharmalot/2020/08/31/most-americans-believe-the-covid-19-vaccine-approval-process-is-driven-by-politics-not-science/ 1
K-9 Posted September 13, 2020 Posted September 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: If the goal is to vaccinate enough people to break the back of this pandemic, apparently the course being pursued of CDC telling governors to prepare to vaccinate people by Nov 1 may be highly counter-productive, because people who believe in vaccination and want to be vaccinated are worried that science and safety are taking a back-seat: "Seventy-eight percent of Americans worry the Covid-19 vaccine approval process is being driven more by politics than science, according to a new survey from STAT and the Harris Poll, a reflection of concern that the Trump administration may give the green light to a vaccine prematurely. The response was largely bipartisan, with 72% of Republicans and 82% of Democrats expressing such worries, according to the poll, which was conducted last week and surveyed 2,067 American adults." https://www.statnews.com/pharmalot/2020/08/31/most-americans-believe-the-covid-19-vaccine-approval-process-is-driven-by-politics-not-science/ I doubt that’s really coming from the CDC. That’s coming from Mike Caputo, HHS Communications Director brought on in the spring to massage information coming out of the CDC strictly for political purposes. We can no longer trust ANYTHING the CDC puts out as they are being heavily censored. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/11/exclusive-trump-officials-interfered-with-cdc-reports-on-covid-19-412809 1
LB3 Posted September 13, 2020 Posted September 13, 2020 They should bring back Tom Frieden. He isn't owned in any way. 🤣🤣🤣
BillsFan4 Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 Looks like my anti-pants movement might be starting to catch on! If you have a medical condition like me and can’t wear pants in public, or you’re just sick of store owners violating your constitutional right by making you wear pants into their establishments, print out this card for yourself: 😁 1
shoshin Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 On 9/12/2020 at 6:04 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said: If the goal is to vaccinate enough people to break the back of this pandemic, apparently the course being pursued of CDC telling governors to prepare to vaccinate people by Nov 1 may be highly counter-productive, because people who believe in vaccination and want to be vaccinated are worried that science and safety are taking a back-seat: "Seventy-eight percent of Americans worry the Covid-19 vaccine approval process is being driven more by politics than science, according to a new survey from STAT and the Harris Poll, a reflection of concern that the Trump administration may give the green light to a vaccine prematurely. The response was largely bipartisan, with 72% of Republicans and 82% of Democrats expressing such worries, according to the poll, which was conducted last week and surveyed 2,067 American adults." https://www.statnews.com/pharmalot/2020/08/31/most-americans-believe-the-covid-19-vaccine-approval-process-is-driven-by-politics-not-science/ It's not counterproductive from a sensibility perspective for states to be ready to distribute the vaccine this year. I 100% gaurantee stories are are coming about vaccines sitting on shelves not getting to people. We don't want those stories. On 9/10/2020 at 2:59 PM, BillsFan4 said: My takeaway was that we have teachers of all ages who are at high risk and we need to take that into consideration as we start reopening schools and do our best to protect them (funding, safety protocols, PPE, etc.). Sure. Now open schools. On 9/9/2020 at 10:37 PM, BillsFan4 said: https://apnews.com/4ee025ba6c4c19c024ce384503f23ef3 ‘South Carolina 3rd grade teacher, 28, dies from COVID-19’ https://j7dfh9pbumnyhazfmcsfgm9m.apnews.com/3e97872bf3cd8697064014efcf2ec622 she’s at least the 4th teacher to die so far this school year. Scary headline but DeMarinis became ill last month before kids returned to class, but had been to her classroom preparing for the school year, Heissenbuttel said. I don't want anyone to die from Covid but kids need to be in school.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 15, 2020 Author Posted September 15, 2020 Hi folks! We are trying to renew our Focus on Football here on TBD The “Facts Only” thread will remain and I will continue to curate it, so PM me anything you’d like to add Thanks, and have a splendid and HEALTHY day! 1 1
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