NoHuddleKelly12 Posted March 3, 2020 Posted March 3, 2020 On 3/3/2020 at 3:36 PM, Over 29 years of fanhood said: The Internet was bound to disrupt journalism particularly sports journalism which for example TBD crowd sources with free contributors. hobbyists will do for it for free and have access to most all the same video clips, tweets and stats. to get paid, one needs to do a much better job (be it entertaining, analytical or other) than the hacks of yore! Expand I smell a poll coming—how much would you pay for continued access to TBD?
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted March 3, 2020 Posted March 3, 2020 I joined last spring, my renewal will be coming soon. IF as the article states the cost is $60 a year, I'll renew, but over $75 or so, then not so sure it's worth it for me. It's a much better value if you're looking for articles on other things besides just the Bills. I will say the articles are always well written and well detailed.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 3, 2020 Posted March 3, 2020 On 3/3/2020 at 5:41 PM, NoHuddleKelly12 said: I smell a poll coming—how much would you pay for continued access to TBD? Expand I’d chip in for anything operational, however the value is the ability for anyone to ‘contribute’ without barriers (except some minor expectation of civility) Readers can decide. 1
Big C Posted March 3, 2020 Posted March 3, 2020 Investing in tech has taught me it's not about the revenue. It's about the subscribers!
Coach Tuesday Posted March 3, 2020 Posted March 3, 2020 I find it ironic that WaPo's website keeps freezing and bugging when you click on that link. Low-hanging fruit people!!
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted March 3, 2020 Posted March 3, 2020 On 3/3/2020 at 6:02 PM, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I’d chip in for anything operational, however the value is the ability for anyone to ‘contribute’ without barriers (except some minor expectation of civility) Readers can decide. Expand FWIW, I would too, for better or worse this site/community has become a part of my daily routine, and gives me more Bills content and faster than basically anything else. 2
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted March 3, 2020 Posted March 3, 2020 I'd pay up to $100 per year for The Athletic. Anything less than that is pure value. Content is generally quite high quality and I love that the writer's often reply to reader comments.
BillsFan4 Posted March 3, 2020 Posted March 3, 2020 On 3/3/2020 at 5:57 PM, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: I joined last spring, my renewal will be coming soon. IF as the article states the cost is $60 a year, I'll renew, but over $75 or so, then not so sure it's worth it for me. It's a much better value if you're looking for articles on other things besides just the Bills. I will say the articles are always well written and well detailed. Expand Just FYI, when it comes time to renew you can send yourself a gift subscription that will save you 15-20% on the price of a 1 year subscription. It’s not as good a deal as what new subscribers can get, but it’s still better than paying full price.
eball Posted March 3, 2020 Posted March 3, 2020 On 3/3/2020 at 3:47 PM, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I think one particular additional point is opinion pieces are passé. I think the average sports news consumer is more educated than ever and is looking for knowledge and analysis more than more opinions. Expand Particularly when the opinions are nothing more than regurgitated takes you've heard over and over! 1
Chaos Posted March 3, 2020 Posted March 3, 2020 On 3/3/2020 at 2:46 PM, Limeaid said: This sounds very much like Amazon model who was unprofitable for a very long time. Expand How so?
Gugny Posted March 3, 2020 Posted March 3, 2020 On 3/3/2020 at 5:21 PM, Rubes said: It's pretty fascinating that I haven't heard much negative about The Athletic since it started. I'm not a subscriber so I don't know, but I find that interesting. Expand Same here. I do not subscribe, but I can't recall anything negative being said about it since it started.
Don Otreply Posted March 3, 2020 Posted March 3, 2020 On 3/3/2020 at 2:53 PM, blacklabel said: Hmm... they started out at $8 a month for a subscription and I don't think that lasted very long before they bumped it up to $11. The content is pretty good. Sometimes there's some filler, but guys like Joe B and Fairburn are on there, and Timmy Graham who I think is a solid writer that likes to troll sometimes. I dunno if I'd pay more than $11 a month though, so if they're looking for more revenue, hopefully it doesn't come in the form of charging subscribers more. Expand Where else but the subscribers would money come from?
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 3, 2020 Posted March 3, 2020 I pay for the WaPo to be "delivered" for the advertisements and with it I get the Digital edition I don't like to pay for what I can get for "free"
Mark Long Beach Posted March 3, 2020 Posted March 3, 2020 I also have a subscription and I love it. I'm mostly on for my Bills & Lakers ( I AM in L.A.) but it covers so much else that I can go read about some interesting story in some other sport or team. It's absolutely worth it to me.
QCity Posted March 3, 2020 Posted March 3, 2020 On 3/3/2020 at 7:26 PM, Don Otreply said: Where else but the subscribers would money come from? Expand Ads.
Don Otreply Posted March 4, 2020 Posted March 4, 2020 On 3/3/2020 at 11:33 PM, QCity said: Ads. Expand If you have enough subscribers you can sell ad space, kind of a chicken or the egg deal, it’s a tough business model to keep healthy, being most folk don’t like to pay for media content nowadays,
notwoz Posted March 4, 2020 Posted March 4, 2020 I subscribed to the Atlantic last fall, based on the orgasmic comments from subscribers here on TBD. I got it at a discount. Frankly, it's not worth it, even at the discounted price. I called today to cancel my subscription.
QCity Posted March 4, 2020 Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) On 3/4/2020 at 12:11 AM, Don Otreply said: If you have enough subscribers you can sell ad space, kind of a chicken or the egg deal, it’s a tough business model to keep healthy, being most folk don’t like to pay for media content nowadays, Expand Traffic is not the issue, you can sell ads on any site regardless of the amount of pageviews it gets, and certainly not an issue for one that has ~1M subscribers. The problem is that people that pay for a subscription do not want to see ads. One approach is to sell ads on free content that paying customers would be blocked from viewing. Edited March 4, 2020 by QCity
blacklabel Posted March 4, 2020 Posted March 4, 2020 On 3/3/2020 at 7:26 PM, Don Otreply said: Where else but the subscribers would money come from? Expand Uh... the bank? That monster that'll give you about tree fiddy? I know where you're coming from but if they would wanna increase the price for a subscription they'd have to offer some new features.
djp14150 Posted March 4, 2020 Posted March 4, 2020 Some thoughts.... im not an athletic subscriber 1. The issue in newspapers in general has changed. It’s not just the sports part of this. Sports being paid for because it’s a source of dports in a market. Network news has marginalized it so news paper has become source locally. 2. With some bscription droos and thus ad revenue drops, a newspaper has to cut things. This has actually been difficult on veteran reporters who can easily be rep,aced by a cheaper 25 yr old. In reporting there isn’t much needed in experience levrl or experiences gives you more in depth understanding of how things work like in investigative journalism. 3. I don’t know is athletic does this..by having reporters assigned to teams you might not have as much travel expenses. 4. Still the big issue is how safe are established reporters with 15-25 yrs experience. Does athletic in a few years lay them off for new faces who cost less.
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