4_kidd_4 Posted March 6, 2020 Posted March 6, 2020 The White Album is an overrated mishmash. Way more filler than killer. As for the question, I suppose Let It Be was last technically, but give I’d give Abby Road a spin over that any day. Sidenote, inherited our aunt’s vinyl a while back and discovered a copy of the “butcher cover” amongst her Beatles collection. Thanks Aunt Charlotte!
row_33 Posted March 6, 2020 Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, 4_kidd_4 said: The White Album is an overrated mishmash. Way more filler than killer. As for the question, I suppose Let It Be was last technically, but give I’d give Abby Road a spin over that any day. Sidenote, inherited our aunt’s vinyl a while back and discovered a copy of the “butcher cover” amongst her Beatles collection. Thanks Aunt Charlotte! 1) the horror of such a view..... like Exile on Main St a masterpiece, but both have their critics... 2) nope 3) very good!!! how on earth was that obtained??? who on earth allowed that to be released to record stores in the US? I'm sure in June 1966 this was a potential huge strike on the band for that sad tour, John's Jesus comments helped push it out of the way? Edited March 6, 2020 by row_33
4_kidd_4 Posted March 6, 2020 Posted March 6, 2020 point 3: She was a kid/teen during the rise of ‘Beatlemania’ so she had bought every record herself back then. It’s funny, you can “see” her mature through the condition of her Beatles records. The real old ones ie “With The Beatles” are pretty gashed up and unplayable, and as you get to White Album, Let It Be era they are in much better shape. The butcher cover album we have is definitely nowhere near mint, but still worth a couple hundred as it is. Worth more to us for sentimental value tho. 2
row_33 Posted March 6, 2020 Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, 4_kidd_4 said: point 3: She was a kid/teen during the rise of ‘Beatlemania’ so she had bought every record herself back then. It’s funny, you can “see” her mature through the condition of her Beatles records. The real old ones ie “With The Beatles” are pretty gashed up and unplayable, and as you get to White Album, Let It Be era they are in much better shape. The butcher cover album we have is definitely nowhere near mint, but still worth a couple hundred as it is. Worth more to us for sentimental value tho. Never came into contact with one who possessed that cover one friend claimed he had one that had the acceptable cover glued onto the butcher, but he wouldn't try to peel it back at least the record company geniuses recognized Two Virgins wasn't going to fly, even a few years later and the craziness that abounded, a few weeks after the White Album release..... Edited March 6, 2020 by row_33
4_kidd_4 Posted March 6, 2020 Posted March 6, 2020 10 minutes ago, row_33 said: Never came into contact with one who possessed that cover one friend claimed he had one that had the acceptable cover glued onto the butcher, but he wouldn't try to peel it back. More valuable unpeeled, from what I’ve been told. Here’s mine, won’t show in the pic but you can see the outline of Ringo’s lab coat thru the white space to the right of the trunk. That’s the ‘tell’. 3
row_33 Posted March 6, 2020 Posted March 6, 2020 sitting here online for a 3 hour Masters course droning on for the other screen.... this made my night, MANY THANKS!!!! 1
CarpetCrawler Posted March 6, 2020 Posted March 6, 2020 How the hell did Maxwell's Silver Hammer make it on to a Beatle's album???
row_33 Posted March 6, 2020 Posted March 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, CarpetCrawler said: How the hell did Maxwell's Silver Hammer make it on to a Beatle's album??? Paul insisted his granny-song get on there. The others despised it and estimated it took multiples of the studio time that it actually did. 2
Gugny Posted March 6, 2020 Posted March 6, 2020 31 minutes ago, CarpetCrawler said: How the hell did Maxwell's Silver Hammer make it on to a Beatle's album??? 21 minutes ago, row_33 said: Paul insisted his granny-song get on there. The others despised it and estimated it took multiples of the studio time that it actually did. I think it's a fun listen. Better question is how did Revolution 9 make it onto the White Album. 1
row_33 Posted March 6, 2020 Posted March 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Gugny said: I think it's a fun listen. Better question is how did Revolution 9 make it onto the White Album. What better represents the late 1960s madness than having that track on there?
row_33 Posted March 6, 2020 Posted March 6, 2020 Sadly it was very representative of what was passing for “classical music” composing at the time, easily the most listened to work of that genre.... And with last years remastering you can identify the changes from prior versions
Gugny Posted March 6, 2020 Posted March 6, 2020 5 hours ago, row_33 said: What better represents the late 1960s madness than having that track on there? Anything.
Doc Brown Posted March 6, 2020 Posted March 6, 2020 On 3/2/2020 at 10:38 PM, GETTOTHE50 said: think he means last album thats worth a dam. which i sorta agree, although the A side of abbey road is obviously very strong, the b side sucks. Horrible take as the medley on the B side has never been matched. 3
row_33 Posted March 6, 2020 Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gugny said: Anything. drugged-out self-inulgence but at least in the name of modern art, it fits right in with almost every painting and classical music composition for the last half of the 20th century sadly..... to me the worst was I Want You (She’s So Heavy) which was total filler and probably inspired Spinal Tap’s Jazz Odyssey for the Puppet Show Festival and many have marvelled that the lead guitarist, who was best friends with Clapton and was associated and well aware of Jimmy Page and Hendrix and Alvin Lee and the whole UK music scene.... did not care one bit to improve his guitar skills at all, speaks volumes Edited March 6, 2020 by row_33
Gugny Posted March 6, 2020 Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, row_33 said: drugged-out self-inulgence bit at least in the name of modern art to me the worst was I Want You (She’s So Heavy) which was total filler and probably inspired Spinal Tap’s Jazz Odyssey for the Puppet Show Festival I love I Want You. Some nice scat and a nice, smooth bass line. The transition from the heavy ending of I Want You directly into Here Comes the Sun, to me, was genius. Edited March 6, 2020 by Gugny 1
row_33 Posted March 6, 2020 Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Gugny said: I love I Want You. Some nice scat and a nice, smooth bass line. The transition from the heavy ending of I Want You directly into Here Comes the Sun, to me, was genius. I can’t argue what you happen to like, but compare it to the thought and craft and inspiration put into almost every song on Revolver they gave us so much to enjoy, in such a short time span And the toll it takes is huge one exiled himself to a remote Scottish farm and the other exiled himself to an incomprehensible (to thise that cared about him) marriage, but that was a part of the era as well do you have friends who are rock fans that despise them, or don’t find their best work of any consequence? Edited March 6, 2020 by row_33
Gugny Posted March 6, 2020 Posted March 6, 2020 17 minutes ago, row_33 said: I can’t argue what you happen to like, but compare it to the thought and craft and inspiration put into almost every song on Revolver they gave us so much to enjoy, in such a short time span And the toll it takes is huge one exiled himself to a remote Scottish farm and the other exiled himself to an incomprehensible (to thise that cared about him) marriage, but that was a part of the era as well do you have friends who are rock fans that despise them, or don’t find their best work of any consequence? I have one close friend who is a rock music lover and does not like the Beatles. Most of my friends at least respect them; a couple like them as much as I do.
row_33 Posted March 6, 2020 Posted March 6, 2020 45 minutes ago, Gugny said: I have one close friend who is a rock music lover and does not like the Beatles. Most of my friends at least respect them; a couple like them as much as I do. i don't get how someone can't admire them at all for one we had a chat that went like: compared to Led Zeppelin... LZ all instrumentalists are a 10 out of 10 for their craft in the genre, and the production quality is incredible for any time in recording history and they rock yeah but, RIngo and George may be 2's, and John's not worth mentioning and Paul is at best a 5, BUT..... the rhythm section works so well plodding along and their crafting of a song, and discussion of timeless subjects that speak to me (LZ and Cream topics and lyrics are mostly pointless to me) makes The Beatles so much more valuable than the sum of their parts. and we will all share the deepest irony when Ringo is the last one living??? 1
row_33 Posted March 6, 2020 Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) oof........ 5 hours ago, Gugny said: I love I Want You. Some nice scat and a nice, smooth bass line. The transition from the heavy ending of I Want You directly into Here Comes the Sun, to me, was genius. it was extended as complete filler for the first side, not worthy of a third-rate 1969 band, let alone the Fab Four probably one of the few blatant fillers for an album, amazing they had to wait until the end to do this 1:28 says it all... (the Beach Boys put the worst filler on so many of their albums, even to get them to LP time-length....) thank goodness George was generous and donated a few of his solo masterpieces to help fill it out, he could have kept them for All Things Must Pass, and I Want Heavy could have gone 14 minutes Edited March 6, 2020 by row_33
Gugny Posted March 6, 2020 Posted March 6, 2020 30 minutes ago, row_33 said: oof........ it was extended as complete filler for the first side, not worthy of a third-rate 1969 band, let alone the Fab Four probably one of the few blatant fillers for an album, amazing they had to wait until the end to do this 1:28 says it all... (the Beach Boys put the worst filler on so many of their albums, even to get them to LP time-length....) thank goodness George was generous and donated a few of his solo masterpieces to help fill it out, he could have kept them for All Things Must Pass, and I Want Heavy could have gone 14 minutes I get what you're saying. I'll admit that I'm not a fan of when the song speeds up for a bit. Cheeses it up a bit. But overall, I will still opine it's a great tune.
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