JetsFan20 Posted March 6, 2020 Posted March 6, 2020 14 hours ago, RochesterRob said: I disagree with calling Hoover an awful President (in a friendly respectful way). He believed in letting the problems associated with the Depression working themselves out versus carrying out a heavy program of intervention by the federal government. To his disadvantage he certainly was not charismatic when speaking in public. World War II was the stimulus that rich and poor in the US were willing to accept to get the economy back on its feet. Hoover's administration never aligned with an acceptable event that would allow for massive federal spending. Stimulation in an area of the economy such as agriculture would have not made things better as there was over production already in that sector of the economy. More production would have further reduced prices received for agricultural commodities making it even more difficult to service debts. Even as tough as things were the public was not in favor of general wealth redistribution nor printing money to help out the most adversely affected. Hoover was an awful president. The guy couldn’t even get his Supreme Court justice nominee through a senate that was majority republican (his party). Both congress and the senate realized he was in over his head very early on. He will also always be known as the guy that used federal tax dollars to bailout the banks yet refused to assist urban workers who were dying of starvation and poverty.
transplantbillsfan Posted March 6, 2020 Posted March 6, 2020 2 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Jesus you must be a crazy bunch to hang up with. Transplant Buddy: I met a girl last night, we got together and it was awesome! Transplant: Is she of the faith? Transplant Buddy: What?! She was hot! Transplant: Hot for Jesus? Was she hot for Jesus, and did you confirm acceptance for hand-holding aka first base and a peck on the cheek aka second base? Transplant Buddy: I don't think you understand the bases. She was wild. Transplant: Wild? Like wild for education? Was she into physics or theology? That's so cool, when a woman is HFE (hot for education)? Transplant Buddy: I'm voting for Trump. Life is way easier over there. ××××× Biden is the deviant here based on your standards TBF. Let men and women be men and women. What the hell... how'd you hear that conversation... are you stalking me? 2
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted March 6, 2020 Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: What the hell... how'd you hear that conversation... are you stalking me? Yes, of course, we're everywhere. I overheard you talking as you left the first run screening of "Mulan", you also said you thought the movie disrespectful to women as Mulan had no strong octogenarian caucasian male to comfort her, eand there was no homage at all to the famous American politician Drops From Race. I didn't follow the second part, but you seemed troubled. We'll get through this! Edited March 6, 2020 by leh-nerd skin-erd 1
RochesterRob Posted March 6, 2020 Posted March 6, 2020 9 hours ago, JetsFan20 said: Hoover was an awful president. The guy couldn’t even get his Supreme Court justice nominee through a senate that was majority republican (his party). Both congress and the senate realized he was in over his head very early on. He will also always be known as the guy that used federal tax dollars to bailout the banks yet refused to assist urban workers who were dying of starvation and poverty. Using federal dollars in a massive direct relief effort was very improbable to happen during Hoover's time in office regardless of who may have been President. I think that just about anybody who would have been realistically elected to the office of POTUS then would have thought in terms of stabilizing the banks so money would be there for business to use with the end result of stimulating employment. We can't use the prism of what came after Hoover's term to look at his administration. I don't recall reading about any groundswell in congress for direct relief and he would have had the same issues with the Supreme Court striking down radical change just as FDR did. While a sweeping federal presence in society is felt as being normal and second nature today back in 1929-1930-1931 that same presence would have most Americans fearing a socialist uprising. I would never argue that Hoover was a great President I think he unfairly gets dumped on for things out of his control and measures that he would have been blocked from trying. A lot of the ideas that went into FDR's AAA (agricultural adjustment act) came from the Federal Farm Board of Hoover's administration.
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