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[atlbillsfan1975]

  On 3/30/2020 at 3:10 AM, Rhode Island Red said:

I’ll never remember what game, against what team, but I seem to remember Logan Thomas coming from absolutely nowhere at a million miles an hour to lay a block on a defender just before the goal line that absolutely exploded the guy, and sealed the deal on a long Bills TD run. Pretty sure that was his most memorable play here, and don’t remember an equivalent death blow block by any Bill before or since...

 

I know, a lot of “don’t remembers”, but am I wrong?

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I don’t remember.?

[freddyjj]

  On 3/30/2020 at 3:10 AM, Rhode Island Red said:

I’ll never remember what game, against what team, but I seem to remember Logan Thomas coming from absolutely nowhere at a million miles an hour to lay a block on a defender just before the goal line that absolutely exploded the guy, and sealed the deal on a long Bills TD run. Pretty sure that was his most memorable play here, and don’t remember an equivalent death blow block by any Bill before or since...

 

I know, a lot of “don’t remembers”, but am I wrong?

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Against Miami on an Ivory dump off.  Was ruled down at the one 

[Smitty75]

What you guys think about the acquisition of Daryl Williams from the Panthers ?

I’m asking the question because i’m sceptic about him, he allowed 12 sacks last year...he was a second team all pro recently but the stats that i mentioned troubled me.

 

We just have to hope that he will play at his 2018 level !

[Mat68]

  On 3/30/2020 at 3:18 PM, Smitty75 said:

What you guys think about the acquisition of Daryl Williams from the Panthers ?

I’m asking the question because i’m sceptic about him, he allowed 12 sacks last year...he was a second team all pro recently but the stats that i mentioned troubled me.

 

We just have to hope that he will play at his 2018 level !

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Pretty sure late in 18 Williams had a knee injury.  The main reason why he didnt get a multi year deal last year.  Its low risk high reward if 2019 was due to him recovering from the injury.  

[DrDawkinstein]

  On 3/30/2020 at 3:18 PM, Smitty75 said:

What you guys think about the acquisition of Daryl Williams from the Panthers ?

I’m asking the question because i’m sceptic about him, he allowed 12 sacks last year...he was a second team all pro recently but the stats that i mentioned troubled me.

 

We just have to hope that he will play at his 2018 level !

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Last year the Panthers stuck him at LG as he returned from a season-ending knee injury. Maybe he wasnt used to going against DTs inside, or maybe he wasnt used to picking up the inside blitzes. Tough to say since Carolina's Line was a mess across the board.

 

His first few years, and his banner year in 2017, he was at RT. So we'll see.

 

I'm more skeptical about the Butler signing and the money we gave him considering he has been a complete bust for Carolina.

[Lurker]

  On 3/30/2020 at 5:16 PM, DrDawkinstein said:

Last year the Panthers stuck him at LG as he returned from a season-ending knee injury. Maybe he wasnt used to going against DTs inside, or maybe he wasnt used to picking up the inside blitzes. Tough to say since Carolina's Line was a mess across the board.

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That's the key to me.  An OG's effectiveness depends on the efficiency of the OT and C on either side of him.   

 

The Panthers were playing rookie OTs that surely struggled when thrown right into the fire.    That may have (indeed, most likely) hurt Williams play as well.     With a much more settled OL in Buffalo, playing limited snaps, he may be much more effective...

[OldTimer1960]

  On 3/30/2020 at 5:16 PM, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Last year the Panthers stuck him at LG as he returned from a season-ending knee injury. Maybe he wasnt used to going against DTs inside, or maybe he wasnt used to picking up the inside blitzes. Tough to say since Carolina's Line was a mess across the board.

 

His first few years, and his banner year in 2017, he was at RT. So we'll see.

 

I'm more skeptical about the Butler signing and the money we gave him considering he has been a complete bust for Carolina.

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Butler’s DL coach In Carolina (Eric Washington) is here now and I assume that they would have asked his opinion before signing Butler.  They must see upside or a better scheme fit here to entice them to bring him here.  

[YoloinOhio]

  On 3/29/2020 at 7:15 PM, MrEpsYtown said:

I know he’s a 4-3 guy, but I thought he was more of a zone coverage guy. But 4-3 is a great move. Jon Allen, Daron Payne, Montez Sweat, Kerrigan and potentially Chase Young? That defensive line is going to be good. 

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Del Rio runs man coverage or at least he did in Denver. A lot of pressure on the corners

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[Buffalo_Stampede]

  On 3/30/2020 at 8:34 PM, YoloinOhio said:

Del Rio runs man coverage or at least he did in Denver. A lot of pressure on the corners

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He's a fit the players to defense type of coach. He's run a lot of zone as well. Washington has good coaches, but that's never been their problem. It's the owner.

[PromoTheRobot]

 

[DrDawkinstein]

  On 3/31/2020 at 12:54 AM, PromoTheRobot said:

 

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So then $15M/year to Dawkins sounds about right (for those that thought it was too high).

[GETTOTHE50]

Is tunsil really worth that much? 

[ExWNYer]

  On 3/31/2020 at 1:20 AM, GETTOTHE50 said:

Is tunsil really worth that much? 

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Just like any other player, he's worth whatever the market will bear.

[MrEpsYtown]

  On 3/31/2020 at 1:08 AM, DrDawkinstein said:

 

So then $15M/year to Dawkins sounds about right (for those that thought it was too high).

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I love Dion and I think he is going to be the first real test case for this regime. They spent some good draft capital on a very young, somewhat raw player with really good measurables. They’ve developed him and he has now become a really good left tackle. He’s turning 26 in April, so still very young and has room to grow. These guys talked about building through the draft and keeping their own. I’m interested to see where they value Dion, if they set a number or will they pay market value? 
 

I am interested to see if they are going to truly be the build and sign long term type of regime, or the let guys go and draft replacements regime like the Pats. What they do with Dion, White, and Milano will tell us a lot. 

[MiltonWaddams]

  On 3/31/2020 at 1:31 AM, MrEpsYtown said:

I love Dion and I think he is going to be the first real test case for this regime. They spent some good draft capital on a very young, somewhat raw player with really good measurables. They’ve developed him and he has now become a really good left tackle. He’s turning 26 in April, so still very young and has room to grow. These guys talked about building through the draft and keeping their own. I’m interested to see where they value Dion, if they set a number or will they pay market value? 
 

I am interested to see if they are going to truly be the build and sign long term type of regime, or the let guys go and draft replacements regime like the Pats. What they do with Dion, White, and Milano will tell us a lot. 

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Well, we can take some solace in the fact that, no matter what they do, they will have never spent as much draft capital into a left tackle as the Texans did with Tunsil. My hope is that Dion is the guy for years to come. LT is a premier position and a good one is very hard to come by.

[Motor26]

  On 3/31/2020 at 1:31 AM, MrEpsYtown said:

I love Dion and I think he is going to be the first real test case for this regime. They spent some good draft capital on a very young, somewhat raw player with really good measurables. They’ve developed him and he has now become a really good left tackle. He’s turning 26 in April, so still very young and has room to grow. These guys talked about building through the draft and keeping their own. I’m interested to see where they value Dion, if they set a number or will they pay market value? 
 

I am interested to see if they are going to truly be the build and sign long term type of regime, or the let guys go and draft replacements regime like the Pats. What they do with Dion, White, and Milano will tell us a lot. 

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If they have to make that decision, you let Milano go.

[JaCrispy]

  On 3/31/2020 at 2:15 AM, Motor26 said:

If they have to make that decision, you let Milano go.

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Yeah, he’s probably most expendable of all the guys due for new contracts...

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[MrEpsYtown]

  On 3/31/2020 at 2:15 AM, Motor26 said:

If they have to make that decision, you let Milano go.

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They can definitely sign all three. My point is that Beane and McDermott have done a great job of building a team with little to no long term cap commitments. Now they are going to have to sign some of their own homegrown guys to long term deals after year 4.  How they handle that situation will tell us a lot about the regime. Its like phase three. Phase 1, get rid of old regime garbage, phase 2 build and draft well, phase 3 sign your own and add. 
 

Milano will be the cheapest of the three. He is awesome for us but a 6 ft 220 pound off ball linebacker is a very scheme specific player and he would only fit a handful of teams. So I think he eventually stays. I don’t think he is that expendable because when he’s been hurt, there is a clear drop off in the defense. But to your point, he would be more replaceable than the other two. 

[Motor26]

  On 3/31/2020 at 2:54 AM, MrEpsYtown said:

They can definitely sign all three. My point is that Beane and McDermott have done a great job of building a team with little to no long term cap commitments. Now they are going to have to sign some of their own homegrown guys to long term deals after year 4.  How they handle that situation will tell us a lot about the regime. Its like phase three. Phase 1, get rid of old regime garbage, phase 2 build and draft well, phase 3 sign your own and add. 
 

Milano will be the cheapest of the three. He is awesome for us but a 6 ft 220 pound off ball linebacker is a very scheme specific player and he would only fit a handful of teams. So I think he eventually stays. I don’t think he is that expendable because when he’s been hurt, there is a clear drop off in the defense. But to your point, he would be more replaceable than the other two. 

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This season should tell us a lot about who is worth keeping. If they take the next step and win the division, a playoff game or 3, then obviously you do what you have to do to keep as many players around. But if they stumble, then if you’re Beane and McDermott you look at more guys as replaceable. 

[whatdrought]

  On 3/31/2020 at 12:54 AM, PromoTheRobot said:

 

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Bill O’Brien really should fire Bill O’Brien before he does any more Bill O’Brien-y things.