mead107 Posted March 1, 2020 Posted March 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Chandemonium said: Early results look like a landslide for Biden here in S.C. He’s at 51% with 3% of precincts reporting. Sanders currently at 18%. My boy Bernie was leading in polls how can Joe win 40 minutes after polls close. Rigged.
Golden Goat Posted March 1, 2020 Posted March 1, 2020 Not that I want them to -- and not that they will -- but Klobuchar and Warren should drop out. They're toast.
Chandemonium Posted March 1, 2020 Posted March 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, Golden Goat said: Not that I want them to -- and not that they will -- but Klobuchar and Warren should drop out. They're toast. I don’t see anyone dropping out until after Super Tuesday at this point 2
Golden Goat Posted March 1, 2020 Posted March 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, Chandemonium said: I don’t see anyone dropping out until after Super Tuesday at this point Understood, but if these results hold -- they'll get about 10% of the vote combined. Yikes.
Doc Brown Posted March 1, 2020 Posted March 1, 2020 (edited) Three interesting developments that can happen between now and Super Tuesday to propel Biden. -Obama officially endorses him. -Klobachar and Buttigieg drop out. -Bloomberg drops out and throws his money behind Biden. Edited March 1, 2020 by Doc Brown
Koko78 Posted March 1, 2020 Posted March 1, 2020 2 hours ago, mead107 said: My boy Bernie was leading in polls how can Joe win 40 minutes after polls close. Rigged. I don't recall seeing any polls with Bernie in the lead in SC.
transplantbillsfan Posted March 1, 2020 Posted March 1, 2020 Fascinated by the lack of conversation in here in contrast to the previous 3 contests. Wonder why that is?
B-Man Posted March 1, 2020 Author Posted March 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Doc Brown said: Three interesting developments that can happen between now and Super Tuesday to propel Biden. -Obama officially endorses him. -Klobachar and Buttigieg drop out. -Bloomberg drops out and throws his money behind Biden. I don’t foresee any of those Doc. Steyer will drop out but Amy and Pete will hang on through Tuesday Bernie will win the majority on tues. and Obama won’t say anything until the summer 1
Doc Brown Posted March 1, 2020 Posted March 1, 2020 Just now, B-Man said: I don’t foresee any of those Doc. Steyer will drop out but Amy and Pete will hang on through Tuesday Bernie will win the majority on tues. and Obama won’t say anything until the summer Pry not. Obama's job will be to "unite" the party at the convention the best he can after what's looking to be a brutal primary. It's more difficult to run as a Democrat as you have a more diverse base of all races and religions while the Republican base is mostly white and Christian. The lack of minority support for Pete, Amy, and Pocahontas means they have zero shot so they should put their pride aside and drop out. Bloomberg may sink Biden with his vanity project. 1
LSHMEAB Posted March 1, 2020 Posted March 1, 2020 Not really surprised by this result and it doesn't mean much of anything. AA SC dems are generally old and moderate. The good thing is these type of voters WILL show up to vote in the general, regardless of the D candidate. Not that it means anything in SC, but it means something nationally. People here will be very pleased when Sanders dominates Super Tuesday; in the sense that you view him as the weakest candidate with no shot. If Biden is the nominee, the election will be nothing more than "vote against Trump." That NEVER works. Never has. Never will. Kerry was vote against Bush. Romney was vote against Obama etc. Hoping to woo this non existent "middle" is a surefire way to lose an election. Who's gonna be riled up on election day to get out of bed, take time off work, and vote for JOE BIDEN? I know, I know; Sanders folks don't have jobs. Like him or hate him, Sanders is the only candidate anyone is going to vote FOR. The left wing outlet coverage of Bernie is reminiscent of the coverage Trump received from right wing outlets in 16. They were petrified of his candidacy because he was guaranteed to lose. How'd that work out? Not saying Sanders would beat Trump, but he's got the best shot (IMO) despite the fact that the know nothing beltway crowd is terrified. 2
transplantbillsfan Posted March 1, 2020 Posted March 1, 2020 Sooooo... South Carolina primary gets over 200,000 more votes than 2016 and very close to the same amount of votes as 2008... interesting... I think Bloomberg ultimately screws the Democratic race up though and gets Sanders nominated. Still, as I told @Deranged Rhino, the race for Biden didn't really start til South Carolina. What's going to be interesting to me on Tuesday is watching where the splintered votes go. Folks over here keep saying the Democratic party has gone uber liberal. If that's true, by the end of Super Tuesday the majority of the vote should be split between Warren and Sanders. If not, it's split between Biden, Bloomberg, Buttiguieg and Klobuchar. 4 vs 2. That's why Sanders is unfortunately on his way to likely becoming the democratic nominee. Here's to hoping a couple other moderates drop out like Steyer did tonight.
Doc Brown Posted March 1, 2020 Posted March 1, 2020 2 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Folks over here keep saying the Democratic party has gone uber liberal. If that's true, by the end of Super Tuesday the majority of the vote should be split between Warren and Sanders. If not, it's split between Biden, Bloomberg, Buttiguieg and Klobuchar. That's not how it historically works though as ideology is just one of many factors people look for in a candidate. People are willing to vote for somebody slightly more liberal or conservative than them if they like that person and think they can win in the general. 1
Doc Brown Posted March 1, 2020 Posted March 1, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: Not really surprised by this result and it doesn't mean much of anything. AA SC dems are generally old and moderate. The good thing is these type of voters WILL show up to vote in the general, regardless of the D candidate. Not that it means anything in SC, but it means something nationally. People here will be very pleased when Sanders dominates Super Tuesday; in the sense that you view him as the weakest candidate with no shot. If Biden is the nominee, the election will be nothing more than "vote against Trump." That NEVER works. Never has. Never will. Kerry was vote against Bush. Romney was vote against Obama etc. Hoping to woo this non existent "middle" is a surefire way to lose an election. Who's gonna be riled up on election day to get out of bed, take time off work, and vote for JOE BIDEN? I know, I know; Sanders folks don't have jobs. Like him or hate him, Sanders is the only candidate anyone is going to vote FOR. The left wing outlet coverage of Bernie is reminiscent of the coverage Trump received from right wing outlets in 16. They were petrified of his candidacy because he was guaranteed to lose. How'd that work out? Not saying Sanders would beat Trump, but he's got the best shot (IMO) despite the fact that the know nothing beltway crowd is terrified. I'm inclined to agree and Einstein's quote about the definition of insanity applies here. Kerry and Romney were stronger moderate candidates than Biden and still lost. Nobody was excited to go to the polls and vote for Hillary. I felt like I was going to jury duty when voting for Hillary in '16 but I went because the ACA saved my brother from certain bankruptcy. I really thought the Republicans would repeal it if a Republican won the White House. I guess it comes down to I know Biden will lose to Trump while I think Sanders has a puncher's chance (even though I'm more ideologically aligned with Biden). Edited March 1, 2020 by Doc Brown 1
4merper4mer Posted March 1, 2020 Posted March 1, 2020 7 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Fascinated by the lack of conversation in here in contrast to the previous 3 contests. Wonder why that is? Occum's Shaver called and said: Saturday
SoCal Deek Posted March 1, 2020 Posted March 1, 2020 9 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Fascinated by the lack of conversation in here in contrast to the previous 3 contests. Wonder why that is? You want to know why? In a word...Biden. He’s the very definition of boring.
Foxx Posted March 1, 2020 Posted March 1, 2020 (edited) meh, Biden's win last night was more of an anti-socialist vote than it was a vote for ol' Joe. of course, helping that win was Clyburn's endorsement, who in all likelihood was making it as an anti-socialist one. what is mystifying is how anyone thinks Biden is anywhere near being fit to serve the highest office in the land. what do they think is going to happen as the pace and pressure of the presidential race heats up? he is going to get better? oye. Edited March 1, 2020 by Foxx 2
3rdnlng Posted March 1, 2020 Posted March 1, 2020 5 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Sooooo... South Carolina primary gets over 200,000 more votes than 2016 and very close to the same amount of votes as 2008... interesting... I think Bloomberg ultimately screws the Democratic race up though and gets Sanders nominated. Still, as I told @Deranged Rhino, the race for Biden didn't really start til South Carolina. What's going to be interesting to me on Tuesday is watching where the splintered votes go. Folks over here keep saying the Democratic party has gone uber liberal. If that's true, by the end of Super Tuesday the majority of the vote should be split between Warren and Sanders. If not, it's split between Biden, Bloomberg, Buttiguieg and Klobuchar. 4 vs 2. That's why Sanders is unfortunately on his way to likely becoming the democratic nominee. Here's to hoping a couple other moderates drop out like Steyer did tonight. Steyer is a moderate? The only one left in this race that is somewhat moderate is Bloomberg and he's not even a democrat. 2 1
B-Man Posted March 1, 2020 Author Posted March 1, 2020 South Carolina Democrats vote to slow down the socialism train Washington Examiner, by Editorial Original Article .
Foxx Posted March 1, 2020 Posted March 1, 2020 34 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Steyer is a moderate? The only one left in this race that is somewhat moderate is Bloomberg and he's not even a democrat. Steyer dropped out.
3rdnlng Posted March 1, 2020 Posted March 1, 2020 15 minutes ago, Foxx said: Steyer dropped out. I know. Doesn't change his political views though. 1
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