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  On 3/1/2020 at 6:03 PM, Deranged Rhino said:

 

He's got no chance. 

 

None. 

 

Tuesday will be fun to watch you come back with a new story about how you never were that high on Ol' Joe. :lol: 

 

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Tuesday will be fun when you come and twist the narrative yet again pretending I'm saying Joe will win when the very post you just quoted from says otherwise... but you conveniently cut that part out in anticipation of what's to come

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  On 3/1/2020 at 8:07 PM, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Not according to you guys:

 

54 pages and counting? Yep. Must just be that he's boring :lol:

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Read the title of the thread over again. The purpose of this thread was to mock Biden, the presumptive 2020 democrat presidential leader up until recently. After 54 pages I'm confident that Joe will give us cause for many more posts. 

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  On 3/1/2020 at 11:36 AM, Doc Brown said:

That's not how it historically works though as ideology is just one of many factors people look for in a candidate.  People are willing to vote for somebody slightly more liberal or conservative than them if they like that person and think they can win in the general.

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Yup. Doing the following voter math is incorrect:

 

Sanders + Warren + Gabbard = total % progressives.

 

Bloomberg + Biden + Klobuchar = total % moderates.

 

Many people don’t vote along political ideological lines like that and sometimes (unfortunately) don’t even know much of anything about the public policies of the candidates. They may vote instead on perceived electability, personality, physical appearance, age, geographical representation, gender, race, single issues, and so on. The proof is with polls that show the second choice for voters. You’ll often see a progressive second choice paired with a centrist first choice, and vice versa.

 

As I think I mentioned before, there’s actually a fair amount of evidence that the Democratic Party voters and the American population at large may be quickly shifting to the progressive left. Take Medicare For All as an important example: I saw a Reuters poll where 70% of overall Americans were in favor of it and so were 85% of Democrats. You see similar trends with a variety of other individual progressive policies. Polls going against this argument usually revolve around the word “socialism” and the electability of a labeled “socialist” candidate. The Bernie campaign, however, has internal (un-scientific) canvassing data suggesting that this stigma is eroding in practically every demographic. It already collapsed with the Millenials. But who knows? We’ll find out the truth soon enough.

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  On 3/2/2020 at 12:36 AM, KayAdams said:

 

Yup. Doing the following voter math is incorrect:

 

Sanders + Warren + Gabbard = total % progressives.

 

Bloomberg + Biden + Klobuchar = total % moderates.

 

Many people don’t vote along political ideological lines like that and sometimes (unfortunately) don’t even know much of anything about the public policies of the candidates. They may vote instead on perceived electability, personality, physical appearance, age, geographical representation, gender, race, single issues, and so on. The proof is with polls that show the second choice for voters. You’ll often see a progressive second choice paired with a centrist first choice, and vice versa.

 

As I think I mentioned before, there’s actually a fair amount of evidence that the Democratic Party voters and the American population at large may be quickly shifting to the progressive left. Take Medicare For All as an important example: I saw a Reuters poll where 70% of overall Americans were in favor of it and so were 85% of Democrats. You see similar trends with a variety of other individual progressive policies. Polls going against this argument usually revolve around the word “socialism” and the electability of a labeled “socialist” candidate. The Bernie campaign, however, has internal (un-scientific) canvassing data suggesting that this stigma is eroding in practically every demographic. It already collapsed with the Millenials. But who knows? We’ll find out the truth soon enough.

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What was the percentage of people who wanted Medicare for all if private insurance was going to be eliminated?

Posted
  On 3/1/2020 at 2:40 AM, Doc Brown said:

Three interesting developments that can happen between now and Super Tuesday to propel Biden.

-Obama officially endorses him.

-Klobachar and Buttigieg drop out.  

-Bloomberg drops out and throws his money behind Biden.

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  On 3/1/2020 at 4:20 AM, B-Man said:


I don’t foresee any of those Doc. 
 

Steyer will drop out but Amy and Pete will hang on through Tuesday 

 

Bernie will win the majority on tues.

 

and Obama won’t say anything until the summer 

 

 

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Welp! Scratch that!

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Posted
  On 3/1/2020 at 2:40 AM, Doc Brown said:

Three interesting developments that can happen between now and Super Tuesday to propel Biden.

-Obama officially endorses him.

-Klobachar and Buttigieg drop out.  

-Bloomberg drops out and throws his money behind Biden.

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Well, you hit on the 2nd one.  Both Pete and Amy suspended their campaigns.  Heard Pete was endorsing Biden.  Haven't heard who Amy endorses, but would assume it's Biden.

Posted
  On 3/2/2020 at 6:47 PM, Taro T said:

Well, you hit on the 2nd one.  Both Pete and Amy suspended their campaigns.  Heard Pete was endorsing Biden.  Haven't heard who Amy endorses, but would assume it's Biden.

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Amy's endorsing Biden.  They're throwing the election away completely if Biden becomes the nominee.  The DNC would rather have Trump in their than Sanders because they're afraid the gravy train runs out for them.

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