Royale with Cheese Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 He's not very good anymore right? I don't think he's done much in the last few years....
billsbackto81 Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 I was never impressed with this guy, even when people thought he was good. 2 1
YoloinOhio Posted February 24, 2020 Author Posted February 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: He's not very good anymore right? I don't think he's done much in the last few years.... He was hurt most of last year
Augie Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 I wonder if he’s pleased to escape the Browns...... 2
BuffaloBills1998 Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 We should get him, good depth signing and he could be a good rotating player 1
YoloinOhio Posted February 24, 2020 Author Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: We should get him, good depth signing and he could be a good rotating player Yeah he’s in the Mario Addison/Everson Griffen category. Not a long term solution but could be more productive than Murphy. Edited February 24, 2020 by YoloinOhio 2
BarleyNY Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: This is just speculation from Mary Kay Cabot based on Vernon’s salary. She is an awful reporter in general and her contacts with the Browns left when Hue Jackson got booted. This is not even an article, just part of an answer to a fan question about whether she expect the Browns to go after former Vikings like Griffen. FWIW Vernon is only due a $250k workout bonus this off-season so I highly doubt the Browns are in a hurry to cut him. I wouldn’t bank on them parting ways with him this off-season, but even if they do I can’t imagine it happening before they replace him. Edited February 24, 2020 by BarleyNY 2
BuffaloBills1998 Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Yeah he’s in the Mario Addison/Everson Griffen category. Not a long term solution but could be more productive than Murphy. Would definitely take him over Murphy, that guy in a lot of ways has been a disappointment
YoloinOhio Posted February 24, 2020 Author Posted February 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: This is just speculation from Mary Kay Cabot based on Vernon’s salary. She is an awful reporter in general and her contacts with the Browns left when Hue Jackson got booted. This is not even an article, just part of an answer to a fan question about whether she expect the Browns to go after former Vikings like Griffen. FWIW Vernon is only due a $250k workout bonus this off-season so I highly doubt the Browns are in a hurry to cut him. I wouldn’t bank on them parting ways with him this off-season, but even if they do I can’t imagine it happening before they replace him. Apparently he is being offered a pay cut and isn’t expected to take it. If he declines the pay cut, the Browns gain 15.5 mill in cap space and 0 dead money
BarleyNY Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 22 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Apparently he is being offered a pay cut and isn’t expected to take it. If he declines the pay cut, the Browns gain 15.5 mill in cap space and 0 dead money I would not be surprised if the Browns asked him to take a pay cut or did something else to reduce his cap hit this season (ie a real or voidable extension), but I’d be shocked if they cut him before replacing him and created such a huge hole. Chad Thomas is the Browns 3rd DE right now. That’s a huge step down. Now if it came to light that Griffen had agreed to terms with the Browns then I could see it. But if that’s the route they’re going to go then why even ask him to take a cut? FWIW I have only heard that the Browns are looking at their options with Vernon. I haven’t heard anything about them asking him to take a cut (yet). Doesn’t mean it could not have happened though, obviously.
HOUSE Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 Its hard to judge any player from the Browns. I can see a 3 year deal for about 30 mil. 2
NewEra Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 He’s ok. I wouldn’t wanna pay him over 10 mill a year. 1
HOUSE Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 Thats a pretty tough football player but probably no better then Shaq Lawson
EasternOHBillsFan Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) The best thing about this... The Browns traded away a valuable offensive lineman that they could have used to protect Baker better for more defense in Vernon, and now they are going to cut him a few months later. The Browns are the joke that keeps on going! Edited February 24, 2020 by EasternOHBillsFan 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 5 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: He's not very good anymore right? I don't think he's done much in the last few years.... One concern is he's missed time for injuries the last 3 years. 4, 5, and 6 games, respectively. 27 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: The best thing about this... The Browns traded away a valuable offensive lineman that they could have used to protect Baker better for more defense in Vernon, and now they are going to cut him a few months later. The Browns are the joke that keeps on going! To be fair to the Browns, wasn't he part of the Odell Beckham Jr trade? so they didn't just trade Zeitler for Vernon. Regime change will do that.
EasternOHBillsFan Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 22 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: One concern is he's missed time for injuries the last 3 years. 4, 5, and 6 games, respectively. To be fair to the Browns, wasn't he part of the Odell Beckham Jr trade? so they didn't just trade Zeitler for Vernon. Regime change will do that. It looks as if John Dorsey's mess is being cleaned up, but it is still funny... they are our competition and anything that embarrasses them I'm all for.
YoloinOhio Posted February 24, 2020 Author Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: One concern is he's missed time for injuries the last 3 years. 4, 5, and 6 games, respectively. To be fair to the Browns, wasn't he part of the Odell Beckham Jr trade? so they didn't just trade Zeitler for Vernon. Regime change will do that. It was Zietler and a 5th for Vernon and a 4th. It was separate from the Odell trade. But the teams combined them as one announcement once trades could be official and they swapped back the day 3 picks. If the Odell trade had not come to fruition, the report was that the 1st trade still would have and they weren’t dependent on each other. Edited February 24, 2020 by YoloinOhio 1
billsbackto81 Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 1 hour ago, HOUSE said: Thats a pretty tough football player but probably no better then Shaq Lawson All things equal, I'd rather have Shaq. 2
BringBackOrton Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: All things equal, I'd rather have Shaq. A year removed from 7 sacks and 21 QB hits in 11 games. For reference, Shaq had 10.5 sacks and 30 QB hits in the last 29 games. 1
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