1billsfan Posted April 15, 2005 Posted April 15, 2005 Clements (for a 1st and 3rd), Henry (for a 2nd) are gone and we end up with a 1st, two 2nd rounders and two 3rd rounders. ...we then use those those picks on 2 corners, 2 offensive linemen, and a kicker. I like Clements, but I roll the dice and get the picks while their hot.
col_forbin Posted April 15, 2005 Posted April 15, 2005 Clements (for a 1st and 3rd), Henry (for a 2nd) are gone and we end up with a 1st, two 2nd rounders and two 3rd rounders. ...we then use those those picks on 2 corners, 2 offensive linemen, and a kicker. I like Clements, but I roll the dice and get the picks while their hot. 306264[/snapback] 1st and a 3rd for Clements???? Link???
1billsfan Posted April 15, 2005 Author Posted April 15, 2005 1st and a 3rd for Clements???? Link??? 306269[/snapback] That is what I feel he's worth.
mary owen Posted April 15, 2005 Posted April 15, 2005 Clements (for a 1st and 3rd), Henry (for a 2nd) are gone and we end up with a 1st, two 2nd rounders and two 3rd rounders. ...we then use those those picks on 2 corners, 2 offensive linemen, and a kicker. I like Clements, but I roll the dice and get the picks while their hot. 306264[/snapback] i stick with the proven commodity in Clements....at least for this year. we are not that far off from doing great things. let's keep Nate until he demands more and expects to be bigger than the team (next year)
col_forbin Posted April 15, 2005 Posted April 15, 2005 That is what I feel he's worth. 306271[/snapback] I might be crazy, but I can't imagine a team giving a 1st and a 3rd for him. I hope I'm wrong though.
ROCCEO Posted April 15, 2005 Posted April 15, 2005 No offense, but that is pretty dumb. Viable in a year where 1-the draft is not so weak and 2- the market for running backs is more solid. I just don't see it happenning.
BRH Posted April 15, 2005 Posted April 15, 2005 I might be crazy, but I can't imagine a team giving a 1st and a 3rd for him. I hope I'm wrong though. 306276[/snapback] Col Forbin, meet Dan Snyder.
BuckeyeBill Posted April 15, 2005 Posted April 15, 2005 That is what I feel he's worth. 306271[/snapback] You have to look at what Miami is trying to get for Patrick Surtain. They aren't even getting CLOSE to a 1st round pick. No way is Clements worth a 1st and 2nd. Sorry, you are dreaming.
sfladave Posted April 15, 2005 Posted April 15, 2005 You have to look at what Miami is trying to get for Patrick Surtain. They aren't even getting CLOSE to a 1st round pick. No way is Clements worth a 1st and 2nd. Sorry, you are dreaming. 306302[/snapback] The last offer to Miami for Sutain was a 4th from KC.
Dennis in NC Posted April 15, 2005 Posted April 15, 2005 Doesn't Pat Surtain have an $8Million cap number right now? Wouldn't that be a big stumbling block to trading him??? Compared to Clements' reasonable cap number for 2005.
jarthur31 Posted April 15, 2005 Posted April 15, 2005 I don't see this happening at all! It would mean VERY young corners and aging safeties. TV might go back to corner and use the rookie as a nickel or dime back but then we'd need a starting FS.
todd Posted April 15, 2005 Posted April 15, 2005 Clements (for a 1st and 3rd), Henry (for a 2nd) are gone and we end up with a 1st, two 2nd rounders and two 3rd rounders. ...we then use those those picks on 2 corners, 2 offensive linemen, and a kicker. I like Clements, but I roll the dice and get the picks while their hot. 306264[/snapback] But who plays corner THIS year?
The Jokeman Posted April 16, 2005 Posted April 16, 2005 But who plays corner THIS year? 306526[/snapback] Jason Peters or Matt Jones
djfarr00 Posted April 16, 2005 Posted April 16, 2005 Jason Peters or Matt Jones 306745[/snapback] jONES MIGHT BE ALBE TO DO THAT AFTER HE PARTS THE RED SEA AND SOLVES THE CONFLICT IN THE MIDDLE EAST (IN CASE YOU DON'T KNOW I HATE JONES)
Pac_Man Posted April 16, 2005 Posted April 16, 2005 I like the idea of trading Clements, because it's a better alternative than TD pulling an Antoine Winfield. Clements is younger than Surtain, and young players typically command much higher trade interest and higher salaries than older players do. Compare what Troy Vincent got from us to what Winfield got from Minnesota. 1Billsfan is more optimistic than me about what we could get from trading Henry and Clements. I'd be happy to trade both players away in exchange for the Mike Williams pick. Our 2nd could be used on Baas (hopefully). We'd take a LT in the 3rd to replace Teague a year from now. What about our secondary? Vincent could be moved back to CB to replace Clements, while Rashad Baker could take his place as FS. We'd use the 4th round pick on a CB who could hopefully grow into a starting role. Mike Williams would replace Moulds starting in 2006. Between getting rid of Moulds and trading away Clements, we should have the salary cap space to re-sign whichever of our other players deserve extensions. We'd have gotten younger and better at possession WR. We'd have set the stage for possibly having an elite offensive line.
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