plenzmd1 Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) Wow, who would have thought. How long before permanent move? Back to back games in London next year https://www.jaguars.com/news/jaguars-to-play-back-to-back-home-games-in-london-in-2020 BTW, they know what teams "travel" and what team do not. Ain't moving the Bears or Steeler games, those are the two guaranteed sellouts! Edited February 4, 2020 by plenzmd1 2
Mark Vader Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 The season ticket holders will get a 50% discount off the preseason games. That should be mandatory for every teams season ticket holders. 4
Captain Hindsight Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 What a blow for the fan of the Jags 27 1
plenzmd1 Posted February 4, 2020 Author Posted February 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: The season ticket holders will get a 50% discount off the preseason games. That should be mandatory for every teams season ticket holders. its funny, i have debated with Bills folks for the last 3 years on the Fan Advisory Board..just make the preseason games free and divide whatever my total ticket price is by 8(allowing for the variable pricing)...i mean thats how i look at it anyway. If my total cost is $800, i just say its $100/game. That way my face is higher for every game as well, maybe i get more back on the games i need to sell. They can never give me a good answer why they dont do this . 2
Mike in Horseheads Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: What a blow for the fan of the Jags That one was the guy sleeping at the Super Bowl 3
LeGOATski Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 Fans in London aren't going to stick around if the Jags don't become a winner. They really need to stick the landing on their next coaching hire.
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 25 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: What a blow for the fan of the Jags I spoke with all three, they are not happy. On the other hand, if the fan base was really buying tickets like crazy, would they have ever moved any games to begin with? 1 1
Mark Vader Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 25 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: its funny, i have debated with Bills folks for the last 3 years on the Fan Advisory Board..just make the preseason games free and divide whatever my total ticket price is by 8(allowing for the variable pricing)...i mean thats how i look at it anyway. If my total cost is $800, i just say its $100/game. That way my face is higher for every game as well, maybe i get more back on the games i need to sell. They can never give me a good answer why they dont do this . And you will never get a good answer. What the league should do is play all preseason games at neutral sites. By "neutral" I mean play them in an area that is close to the home team. Why not play them at the local college stadiums? I'm sure this is something that could be manageable. 3
H2o Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 Shahid Khan is all about that $$$ (as are many other owners I'm sure) and he feels like this move overall puts more $$$ in his pocket. Can't blame him in the short term, but this isn't sustainable for success in the league or with his franchise imo. 1
corta765 Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 47 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: BTW, they know what teams "travel" and what team do not. Ain't moving the Bears or Steeler games, those are the two guaranteed sellouts! Thought the same exact thing. What a surprise the two games which the opposing fans will sellout the stadium you don't move. That speaks volumes to their issues selling tickets. 1
416BillsFan Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 Would not be surprised if they move to 4 London games (2 consecutive games in a row twice a season) in the next few years and they effectively share the team for a bit to acclimate the fans/players to a London team. It's hilarious that this is being done with London & Jacksonville. Hard to think of two less similar big cities. 1
corta765 Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, H2o said: Shahid Khan is all about that $$$ (as are many other owners I'm sure) and he feels like this move overall puts more $$$ in his pocket. Can't blame him in the short term, but this isn't sustainable for success in the league or with his franchise imo. To me it is the possible death knell to the Jags in Jax. As is I could see a lot of Jags fans saying why bother when you take 1/4 of our home games away from us and if fan support dries up (which might be the goal) it is easier to justify moving to London for good.
H2o Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, corta765 said: To me it is the possible death knell to the Jags in Jax. As is I could see a lot of Jags fans saying why bother when you take 1/4 of our home games away from us and if fan support dries up (which might be the goal) it is easier to justify moving to London for good. I understand that aspect of it, but I can't see it being sustainable for the NFL as a whole. The players would have to pay taxes in the US and taxes overseas, because you know most of them aren't going to actually live there. It would be harder on players with families. It would mean that 8 teams would have to make the trip across the Atlantic on a yearly basis. It would also mean that the Jags would be flying back and forth from London to the US 8 times a year. It would be a crappy situation for everyone involved for the most part, but mainly the Jags players themselves. This is a hole of his own making though, Khan, so whatever happens rests squarely on his shoulders. Edited February 4, 2020 by H2o 1
LabattBlue Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 For the few who are Jags STH, I would tell the owner to go pound salt, and rip up my STH renewal. Just give him a reason to accelerate the franchise move across the Atlantic. 1 1
4_kidd_4 Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 Honest question, why was this franchise considered a good idea in the first place? I don’t really remember much from that time. There had to be a better option elsewhere, no?
corta765 Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 Just now, H2o said: I understand that aspect of it, but I can't see it being sustainable for the NFL as a whole. The players would have to pay taxes in the US and taxes overseas, because you know most of them aren't going to actually live there. It would be harder on players with families. It would mean that 8 teams would have to make the trip across the Atlantic on a yearly basis. It would also mean that the Jags would be flying back and forth from London to the US 8 times a year. It would be a crappy situation for everyone involved for the most part, but mainly the Jags themselves. This is a hole of his own making though, Khan, so whatever happens rests squarely on his shoulders. From what I have read from guys like Peter King from NBC the NFL has a huge appetite to see this happen given the market penetration. I do not disagree at all that the logistics are a nightmare, as a player I would refuse to play in London given the tax disadvantage alone, and the laundry list of other reasons are quite long including game times. BUT this is the NFL and they are trying to force a 17 game schedule despite the players universally not wanting it and injury issues like CTE saying that 16 games is a problem as is that needs to be address. I just think it setups a really easy situation for the league and Jags to say "hey the fans stopped coming the way we want whereas London really is buying into this" and then making the move. My greater fear is that regardless of a 17 game schedule which it sounds like the extra game is a neutral site international game, they force every franchise to align with a foreign city and mimic what the jags have been doing. If the money is great enough I could absolutely see that happening. 1
Seasons1992 Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 57 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: What a blow for the fan of the Jags She can be heard here: 2 1
T master Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 The NFL should reimburse the season ticket holders that cash or buy them tickets to the London game & put them up in a nice hotel that's BS for the Jag fans !!
ghostwriter Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Captain Hindsight said: What a blow for the fan of the Jags They have fans? 1
corta765 Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 16 minutes ago, 4_kidd_4 said: Honest question, why was this franchise considered a good idea in the first place? I don’t really remember much from that time. There had to be a better option elsewhere, no? St. Louis and Baltimore were actually considered ahead of them in 1993 and Jax was the least likely. BUT my guess would be behind the scenes it became known both of those markets were going to try and get teams to move or favorites so the NFL frontlined Jax to get them to the front of the line. 1
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