Buffalo716 Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 This seems cool Virgil Can't believe I missed this thread somehow... Guess you can't read them all Bring it back next year ! ?
whatdrought Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: This seems cool Virgil Can't believe I missed this thread somehow... Guess you can't read them all Bring it back next year ! ? there will be at least one more iteration of this later in the draft season, so keep your eyes peeled. 1 1
Virgil Posted February 7, 2020 Author Posted February 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, whatdrought said: there will be at least one more iteration of this later in the draft season, so keep your eyes peeled. At least 2 I think. The weekend before the draft (trades, Forum picks for the Bills via poll, more controlled ownership). 3 rounds Two weeks before draft - No trades, 2 rounds, committee of 3 makes pick for the Bills 3
whatdrought Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, Virgil said: At least 2 I think. The weekend before the draft (trades, Forum picks for the Bills via poll, more controlled ownership). 3 rounds Two weeks before draft - No trades, 2 rounds, committee of 3 makes pick for the Bills I would love to do a real time version of this (With a clock, and forfeited picks, etc)... but that seems like a trainwreck waiting to happen... 2 1
Buffalo Junction Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Virgil said: I have a bag of rocks laying around here somewhere I was going to use him as a way to balance out the trade value with next years 1st. Figured I needed 6 points of value added back into what I was gonna offer and your 7th rd pick wasn’t low enough ? 19 minutes ago, Virgil said: At least 2 I think. The weekend before the draft (trades, Forum picks for the Bills via poll, more controlled ownership). 3 rounds Two weeks before draft - No trades, 2 rounds, committee of 3 makes pick for the Bills Im in. Just sign me up with the same team.
Mark Vader Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 Sorry, I've been out all night. With the 40th pick in the 2020 NFL Draft, the Arizona Cardinals select, Donovan Peoples-Jones WR, Michigan. Cleveland is on the clock, @Rc2catch.
Virgil Posted February 7, 2020 Author Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, whatdrought said: I would love to do a real time version of this (With a clock, and forfeited picks, etc)... but that seems like a trainwreck waiting to happen... It would be hard for me to enjoy the draft and run this. But, I would love to see a real time poll per pick and see who does the best. Not sure how that would go 1 hour ago, Buffalo Junction said: I was going to use him as a way to balance out the trade value with next years 1st. Figured I needed 6 points of value added back into what I was gonna offer and your 7th rd pick wasn’t low enough ? Im in. Just sign me up with the same team. Different teams for the first two. Depending on how people do will dictate who does the final. That’s the one we try to see how closest to the pin we can get The Jacksonville Jaguars are on the clock. @BuffaLoko You have until 11a est with the new day upon us Edited February 7, 2020 by Virgil 1
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 7 hours ago, Virgil said: I have a bag of rocks laying around here somewhere 6 hours ago, whatdrought said: Pretty generous... Just more examples of more mistakes being made...?
JMF2006 Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 On 2/5/2020 at 7:49 PM, GG said: If I understand correctly, Bills trade UP in the deepest WR draft in decades and pass up the 2 best available DEs? I was thinking the same thing. Plus we get a speed guy that does not play well against press. I thought the objective was to draft a big go up and get it guy who is open even when covered.
GG Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: I was thinking the same thing. Plus we get a speed guy that does not play well against press. I thought the objective was to draft a big go up and get it guy who is open even when covered. Not only that, but Bills trade #2 pick to move up 7 slots? Beane would be rightfully burned alive for that trade for that pick in this draft. 1
GunnerBill Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: I thought the objective was to draft a big go up and get it guy who is open even when covered. Bills fans always do. The objective should be to get the best guy. I maintain there is no fanbase in the league more obsessed with the size of receiver than the Bills fan base. Despite the fact that we have had big guys over the years and it has never ended particularly well they constantly obsess about size over talent. Pick the best guy. Better players get open more than average players whether they are 5ft7 or 6ft4. 3
JMF2006 Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: Bills fans always do. The objective should be to get the best guy. I maintain there is no fanbase in the league more obsessed with the size of receiver than the Bills fan base. Despite the fact that we have had big guys over the years and it has never ended particularly well they constantly obsess about size over talent. Pick the best guy. Better players get open more than average players whether they are 5ft7 or 6ft4. The thing is trading up with all that draft capital in a very deep WR draft. Thankfully Beane won`t do that.....I hope.
Rc2catch Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Bills fans always do. The objective should be to get the best guy. I maintain there is no fanbase in the league more obsessed with the size of receiver than the Bills fan base. Despite the fact that we have had big guys over the years and it has never ended particularly well they constantly obsess about size over talent. Pick the best guy. Better players get open more than average players whether they are 5ft7 or 6ft4. In the end I’ve always said it’s just weapons. Kansas City shows that “smurfs” are just fine if they get separation and have a good offensive scheme. Watkins I think is the tallest guy at 6’1, and Kelce of course is the tallest. Knox has some height and similar traits to Kelce although obviously not as polished or good as of now. I don’t care about size or having a prototypical #1 guy you just need 4 possibly 5 weapons on your offense between the backs, receivers and tight ends. Similar to the NBA the game is going away from the tall go up and get it guys 2 1
GunnerBill Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 Just now, JMF2006 said: The thing is trading up with all that draft capital in a very deep WR draft. Thankfully Beane won`t do that.....I hope. It is a very deep receiver draft. But it comes down to do the Bills have the 2nd or 3rd guy as potential elite compared to a load of people below that they have down as good. There ended up being 3 elite guys in that "deep" 2014 draft - Evans, OBJ and Adams. Two of those were two of the first three guys off the board. Would you risk it for that vs Kelvin Benjamin, Jordan Matthews or Marquise Lee? 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 9 hours ago, Virgil said: At least 2 I think. The weekend before the draft (trades, Forum picks for the Bills via poll, more controlled ownership). 3 rounds Two weeks before draft - No trades, 2 rounds, committee of 3 makes pick for the Bills I'm enjoying watching this. Small suggestion for future improvement, on the first post where you summarize the pick, going forward could you list the trade partner and terms for a TRADE? 3
JMF2006 Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 I would prefer a trade up for a DE if you think he is BPA and going to be a stud. I don`t think I would be to thrilled about trading up for a WR JMHO
Kirby Jackson Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Bills fans always do. The objective should be to get the best guy. I maintain there is no fanbase in the league more obsessed with the size of receiver than the Bills fan base. Despite the fact that we have had big guys over the years and it has never ended particularly well they constantly obsess about size over talent. Pick the best guy. Better players get open more than average players whether they are 5ft7 or 6ft4. This x 1000!! We get so obsessed with certain positions, and skill sets. “We need a big receiver who is open when he’s not.” “We need a RB to pound between the tackles.” How about just get good players with elite skills? Get the talent and then figure out how to maximize it. The best boss that I ever had believed in this. When we were interviewing people, he used to say, “if they are the right person bring them on the bus and we can figure out where they sit later.” That has always stuck with me and couldn’t agree more. Stop worrying about “someone already being in their seat” and “get them on the bus.” 4
GunnerBill Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: This x 1000!! We get so obsessed with certain positions, and skill sets. “We need a big receiver who is open when he’s not.” “We need a RB to pound between the tackles.” How about just get good players with elite skills? Get the talent and then figure out how to maximize it. The best boss that I ever had believed in this. When we were interviewing people, he used to say, “if they are the right person bring them on the bus and we can figure out where they sit later.” That has always stuck with me and couldn’t agree more. Stop worrying about “someone already being in their seat” and “get them on the bus.” I take the same approach when I recruit. You can never have too many good people. Right, I'll stop there because I feel like we are derailing Virgil's thread. Edited February 7, 2020 by GunnerBill 1 1
GG Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: This x 1000!! We get so obsessed with certain positions, and skill sets. “We need a big receiver who is open when he’s not.” “We need a RB to pound between the tackles.” How about just get good players with elite skills? Get the talent and then figure out how to maximize it. The best boss that I ever had believed in this. When we were interviewing people, he used to say, “if they are the right person bring them on the bus and we can figure out where they sit later.” That has always stuck with me and couldn’t agree more. Stop worrying about “someone already being in their seat” and “get them on the bus.” This is a separate rationale than giving up major assets to go for a specific player who may not check all the boxes, though. How did this work out in the last very deep WR draft in 2014?
wppete Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 Miami is feeling good with this offensive haul so far in this draft. We got out QB in Justin Herbert and added 2 elite OTs in the first round. Andrew Thomas (Georgia) and Josh Jones (Houston). Then at the top of the 2nd round Miami drafts a stud RB in JK Dobbins (Ohio St.). Add that with their existing weapons at WR and TE and Miami looks much better on Offense for 2020. 1
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