whatdrought Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 3 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: Bernie is winning this caucus and this nomination. I'm sure his policies are not (at all) popular in these parts, but he's the only candidate on the left that anyone is voting "FOR." They tried the vote against Trump method last time and failed. And I believe Bernie would win Michigan, which is gonna end up being a pivotal state. People there are just frustrated because it flat out sucks. They're still not doing well despite the strong economy, so enough of them will be very open to trying a different "radical" approach. I think you’re missing the historical context... the DNC doesn’t want Bernie in the drivers seat of a campaign, and they don’t care if he’s the only horse in their stable with legs. Same song second verse. I think Bernie (though I despise him, personally) has the best chance of beating trump because he invigorates the “ignorant youth” movement. But the powers that be in the DNC won’t have it. Tonight is proof positive of that. 1
Deranged Rhino Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 "But the energy is on the left!" (When will those still clinging to the matrix wake up and realize they're lying to you 24/7?) 2 3
3rdnlng Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 Iowa DNC has eclipsed the FUBAR of all FUBARS and eclipsed the rollout of Obama's ACA. I wonder if they can somehow include "hanging chads"? 1
whatdrought Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) Could the problem stem from the Democrats’ inability to find any state on a map that isn’t bordered by the ocean? 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Someone should start an email campaign and just send pictures of the Iowa Democrats Logo. Suspiciousness discovered. Edited February 4, 2020 by whatdrought 2 2
Doc Brown Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Could the problem stem from the Democrats’ inability to find any state on a map that isn’t bordered by the ocean? Hey. If climate change is all its cracked up to be Iowa will be a coastal state soon. 1 2
whatdrought Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 Just now, Doc Brown said: Hey. If climate change is all its cracked up to be Iowa will be a coastal state soon. Climate change = warming trends caused by admission of greenhouse gasses from Democrats brains.
Doc Brown Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 2 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: Eh. You just might be surprised. Trump beat Clinton by .23 percent in 2016, and Michigan went blue in 2018. I'll just add that while I greatly appreciate the dialogue here and understanding opposing viewpoints, TBD is not really a great barometer of the country as a whole. Trump's numbers are rising and he's right around that 46 percent mark which gave him a slim victory against Clinton, so the likelihood is that this election will also be close. The economy is definitely better, but there are still a lot of folks feeling left behind. It'll be all about turnout like every election. I just try and find the most charismatic candidate regardless of policy when it comes to predictions. Every president since Reagan was more charismatic than their competitor in my opinion. I'll call Dukakis and the first Bush a draw (Reagan carried Bush Sr.). None of these candidates really out trump Trump when it comes to charisma so my hopes aren't high. 3 1
Hedge Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 To be fair, they don't say, after 7PM CST of which day... 3
Doc Brown Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 I thought this was only a Florida phenomenon. 3
Hedge Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Pete Buttigieg is the Stacey Abrams of Hillary Clintons. 1 1 2
Hedge Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) I had no idea tonight would be so entertaining! Edited February 4, 2020 by Hedge 6
Deranged Rhino Posted February 4, 2020 Posted February 4, 2020 Matt Gaetz just now in an interview: "If Joe Biden had won tonight, I bet you we would have had the results by now." 4
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