KRC Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 So, if Trump is a king or dictator, does that mean that he can stay in office for the rest of his life, then pass it down to his kids? Generations of Trump!! 1
njbuff Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 I don't know how much more these liberal pinheads can take from Donald Trump. My family's heads are exploding over Trump's acquittal and they are not to be around cause they now have the mental capacity of a 3 year due to their psychotic TDS. I love it!!!!!!! ??? 1 1 1
TakeYouToTasker Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 This is the dumbest take in the history of takes. The OP literally just made the argument that it is unacceptable for elected officials to pursue or enact policy which is beneficial to the United States, and the citizens thereof, if doing so increases their chances of getting elected. This means that the only legal action such officials could take would be doing things they believe would harm the country, in the hopes that the harm is great enough that they are beaten at the ballot box by the next person, who will also have malfeasance on the agenda. 6 2 1
RochesterRob Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, ALF said: "Dershowitz was a member of the legal defense team for Jeffrey Epstein, who was investigated following accusations that he had repeatedly solicited sex from minors" This is Tiberius level innuendo. Dershowitz has gone to bat for a number of leftists over the years.
Foxx Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 1 minute ago, RochesterRob said: This is Tiberius level innuendo. Dershowitz has gone to bat for a number of leftists over the years. never mind that he is an avowed Democrat. whataboutism at it's finest. tibs would be proud.
Prickly Pete Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 (edited) Pathetic. These people are so full of *****. Their lives are very likely no different, yet somehow they want to act like it's The Occupation. Edited February 1, 2020 by 32ABBA 3
snafu Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 4 hours ago, Kemp said: “If a president does something which he believes will help him get elected in the public interest, that cannot be the kind of quid pro quo that results in impeachment,” said the lawyer, Alan M. Dershowitz. The statement is a template for the establishment of a dictatorship. This means that a President can unilaterally do anything if he believes it is for the public good. Every single dictator in history has operated in that manner. Try and find an exception. America is a flawed country, like all are, but a dictatorship won't be an improvement. The Senate Republicans admit that Trump did what he is accused of, yet voted to not hear from witnesses. As even the biggest idiot in these threads knows, innocent people want witnesses. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand this simplest of concepts. So, if Trump loses in November and declares that for some reason the vote was illegitimate, and refuses to leave, what will happen? I'm not sure. One thing for sure, is that the resident loon on these boards will tell us that Trump is right to remain, and post tweets from other loons and Qanon as proof. The frothing loon will no doubt tell us of some unfounded theory he has gleaned from another frothing loon on Twitter. The crazed villagers, with their flaming torches proudly held high, will lap it up and make their usual pithy comments. I used to not understand how people could ever warmly embrace an incoming dictatorship. It's not that hard to understand, anymore. Fear of other + charlatans lying to them + blaming your own failures on another group of people are some of the primary ingredients. All of this for the man who is the ultimate poster boy for Narcissistic Personality Disorder. These are sad times. Signs and symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder Grandiose sense of self-importance Grandiosity is the defining characteristic of narcissism. More than just arrogance or vanity, grandiosity is an unrealistic sense of superiority. Narcissists believe they are unique or “special” and can only be understood by other special people. What’s more, they are too good for anything average or ordinary. They only want to associate and be associated with other high-status people, places, and things. Narcissists also believe that they’re better than everyone else and expect recognition as such—even when they’ve done nothing to earn it. They will often exaggerate or outright lie about their achievements and talents. And when they talk about work or relationships, all you’ll hear is how much they contribute, how great they are, and how lucky the people in their lives are to have them. They are the undisputed star and everyone else is at best a bit player. Lives in a fantasy world that supports their delusions of grandeur Since reality doesn’t support their grandiose view of themselves, narcissists live in a fantasy world propped up by distortion, self-deception, and magical thinking. They spin self-glorifying fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, attractiveness, and ideal love that make them feel special and in control. These fantasies protect them from feelings of inner emptiness and shame, so facts and opinions that contradict them are ignored or rationalized away. Anything that threatens to burst the fantasy bubble is met with extreme defensiveness and even rage, so those around the narcissist learn to tread carefully around their denial of reality. Needs constant praise and admiration A narcissist’s sense of superiority is like a balloon that gradually loses air without a steady stream of applause and recognition to keep it inflated. The occasional compliment is not enough. Narcissists need constant food for their ego, so they surround themselves with people who are willing to cater to their obsessive craving for affirmation. These relationships are very one-sided. It’s all about what the admirer can do for the narcissist, never the other way around. And if there is ever an interruption or diminishment in the admirer’s attention and praise, the narcissist treats it as a betrayal. Sense of entitlement Because they consider themselves special, narcissists expect favorable treatment as their due. They truly believe that whatever they want, they should get. They also expect the people around them to automatically comply with their every wish and whim. That is their only value. If you don’t anticipate and meet their every need, then you’re useless. And if you have the nerve to defy their will or “selfishly” ask for something in return, prepare yourself for aggression, outrage, or the cold shoulder. Exploits others without guilt or shame Narcissists never develop the ability to identify with the feelings of others—to put themselves in other people’s shoes. In other words, they lack empathy. In many ways, they view the people in their lives as objects—there to serve their needs. As a consequence, they don’t think twice about taking advantage of others to achieve their own ends. Sometimes this interpersonal exploitation is malicious, but often it is simply oblivious. Narcissists simply don’t think about how their behavior affects others. And if you point it out, they still won’t truly get it. The only thing they understand is their own needs. Frequently demeans, intimidates, bullies, or belittles others Narcissists feel threatened whenever they encounter someone who appears to have something they lack—especially those who are confident and popular. They’re also threatened by people who don’t kowtow to them or who challenge them in any way. Their defense mechanism is contempt. The only way to neutralize the threat and prop up their own sagging ego is to put those people down. They may do it in a patronizing or dismissive way as if to demonstrate how little the other person means to them. Or they may go on the attack with insults, name-calling, bullying, and threats to force the other person back into line. Dershowitz explained himself the next morning in an interview. https://www.npr.org/2020/01/31/801515969/alan-dershowitz-clarifies-a-point-made-in-the-trump-impeachment-trial And to your larger point, why do you think that any President *not* named Donald Trump is going to behave just like Donald Trump? 1
CarpetCrawler Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: Found Kemp. I wonder what that guy thinks about the Electoral College? 3
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, CarpetCrawler said: I wonder what that guy thinks about the Electoral College? ...don't they have online Master Degrees for $49.95???......... 1
Prickly Pete Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 I thought "the end of America as we know it" was what they wanted? I thought the Good old USA was a terrible, racist, sexist country? 1
3rdnlng Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 1 hour ago, RochesterRob said: This is Tiberius level innuendo. Dershowitz has gone to bat for a number of leftists over the years. Dershowitz is an avowed liberal and even voted for Hillary over Trump. He believes in the Constitution strongly and therefor won't get sucked in by the direction the liberals are going. 1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...don't they have online Master Degrees for $49.95???......... AOC believes it should be free. 2
Doc Brown Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 7 hours ago, Kemp said: “If a president does something which he believes will help him get elected in the public interest, that cannot be the kind of quid pro quo that results in impeachment,” said the lawyer, Alan M. Dershowitz. He could've worded that better as politicians can easily do something he/she believes will both help their reelection chances and benefit the public. Your incentive to do a good job at work is at least partially motivated to keep your job and/or get a raise. It helps you and the company. If Trump made this argument from the start instead of denying everything (including saying there was no quid pro quo) then this whole mess could've been avoided.
LB3 Posted February 2, 2020 Posted February 2, 2020 I'm still more worried about what will happen if Trump refuses to accept his loss to Hillary in 2016. 1 3
KD in CA Posted February 2, 2020 Posted February 2, 2020 Good grief.....how completely divorced from reality does one need to be to surmise Trump — of all people — is on the road to dictatorship? Trump is the ultimate ‘here today, gone tomorrow’ candidate. Meanwhile, the big machine will barely have skipped a beat for his time in office. 1
Prickly Pete Posted February 2, 2020 Posted February 2, 2020 5 hours ago, Doc Brown said: He could've worded that better as politicians can easily do something he/she believes will both help their reelection chances and benefit the public. Your incentive to do a good job at work is at least partially motivated to keep your job and/or get a raise. It helps you and the company. If Trump made this argument from the start instead of denying everything (including saying there was no quid pro quo) then this whole mess could've been avoided. Nah, if it wasn't this, it would be something else. There is no avoiding these egregious attacks 3
CoudyBills Posted February 2, 2020 Posted February 2, 2020 8 hours ago, 32ABBA said: I thought "the end of America as we know it" was what they wanted? I thought the Good old USA was a terrible, racist, sexist country? Thank you. I almost forgot about that. Just a couple years ago all we heard was how bad the USA was. Now we need to get back to the old normal. Interesting...idiots. 1 hour ago, KD in CA said: Good grief.....how completely divorced from reality does one need to be to surmise Trump — of all people — is on the road to dictatorship? Trump is the ultimate ‘here today, gone tomorrow’ candidate. Meanwhile, the big machine will barely have skipped a beat for his time in office. Here today, gone in 5 years. Otherwise, agreed. 1
/dev/null Posted February 2, 2020 Posted February 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, CoudyBills said: Here today, gone in 5 years. Otherwise, agreed. With a 20 year footprint on the Judiciary And between 3-5 Supreme Court Justices 5 1
CoudyBills Posted February 2, 2020 Posted February 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, /dev/null said: With a 20 year footprint on the Judiciary And between 3-5 Supreme Court Justices Here's to hoping!
Q-baby! Posted February 2, 2020 Posted February 2, 2020 13 hours ago, Chef Jim said: How dare he do what he thinks is right for the country. And there are so many checks and balances in our government a dictatorship could never happen. What a load of crapola this is. Thank you! I was wondering what the Burger King crew was thinking! No pickles next time! Thanks!
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