SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) Round 1 • Pick 9 (9) • DT Ed Oliver. Round 2 • Pick 6 (38) • T Cody Ford. Round 3 • Pick 11 (74) • RB Devin Singletary. Round 3 • Pick 33 (96) • TE Dawson Knox. Round 6 • Pick 8 (181) • S Jaquan Johnson. Round 7 • Pick 11 (225) • DE Darryl Johnson EDIT Round 7 • Pick 14 (228) • TE Tommy Sweeney - Thanks @Kirby Jackson for letting me know I had forgotten a player /EDIT the only one not to play due to being on IR was IIRC Round 5 • Pick 9 (147) • LB Vosean Joseph. I'm thinking the first 4 did well enough for themselves. Sorry if I missed a similar thread in my search Edited January 28, 2020 by SlimShady'sGhost 2
ogham26 Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 Overall a very solid draft. Hopefully cody ford improves with an off season of work. It would be great if we can keep spain and then just let the same 5 start with an improvement in ford at right tackle. I think Vosean Joseph can be a nice player for us this season 3
BmarvB Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 This was one of their better draft classes in a long time, 4 starters with the first 4 picks, and a pair of dept players. Lets hope they can repeat that with this upcoming draft class. 2
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 Pretty wild to rate this so soon. Definitely has good potential but it’s so early.
Augie Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 How long before somebody brings up who we could have/should have drafted? I love the early production and the potential of this draft class. It’s too early for me to get carried away, however. I’d call myself optimistically hopeful. Everybody just needs to keep improving. 1
947 Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 Still looks good overall, but I think everyone here would rather have taken AJ Brown in the 2nd. 1
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, 947 said: Still looks good overall, but I think everyone here would rather have taken AJ Brown in the 2nd. It was considered a weak WR draft that turned out strong. I have no issues who they drafted with the 1st 2 picks. Hopefully Ford works out somewhere on the OL. They need to hit on a WR this draft.
Aussie Joe Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 Its hard to rate after one year - particularly the later picks, but there is reason to be optomistic.. I think the last three drafts look good...
Bangarang Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 The class has potential. Oliver looked to have more of a noticeable impact as the season progressed. Ford is not a tackle. If he kicks inside then he may have a chance to be good. Singletary showed promise. Can he be a workhorse for us though? Knox needs to learn how to catch. Plain and simple. Jaquan had a solid pre-season and could be a decent depth player for us. 1
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Augie said: How long before somebody brings up who we could have/should have drafted? I love the early production and the potential of this draft class. It’s too early for me to get carried away, however. I’d call myself optimistically hopeful. Everybody just needs to keep improving. 22 minutes ago, 947 said: Still looks good overall, but I think everyone here would rather have taken AJ Brown in the 2nd. Looks like it took 1 minute more! ? This was a phenomenal draft. This is the type of draft the Bills need to have every year. There was holes to fill and they got filled with very good prospects. Getting four starters for a team that was 6-10 is perfect. This draft I can see adding 2-3 starters depending on what is done in FA. Edited January 27, 2020 by atlbillsfan1975 2
Augie Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Looks like it took 1 minute more! ? This was a phenomenal draft. This is the type of draft the Bills need to have every year. Getting four starters for a team that was 6-10 is perfect. This draft I can see adding 3 starters depending on what is done in FA. I’m a little surprised it took as long as it did! The first post out of the gate would NOT have shocked me! It’s too easy to play that game....but if only we took that Brady guy in the 5th a couple decades ago...... 1 1
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, Augie said: I’m a little surprised it took as long as it did! The first post out of the gate would NOT have shocked me! It’s too easy to play that game....but if only we took that Brady guy in the 5th a couple decades ago...... ? or Russell Wilson or Gronk ... I think we are finally finding the right players for the system or HC wants. Beane and McDermott working together very well.
Billl Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 43 minutes ago, Bangarang said: The class has potential. Oliver looked to have more of a noticeable impact as the season progressed. Ford is not a tackle. If he kicks inside then he may have a chance to be good. Singletary showed promise. Can he be a workhorse for us though? Knox needs to learn how to catch. Plain and simple. Jaquan had a solid pre-season and could be a decent depth player for us. Singletary is talented, but I don’t think the intent is to ever use him as a workhorse. He’s perfect for his role. Doesn’t have the size to take 20 carries a game while blocking in the passing game consistently. Someone like Carlos Hyde would be a good pickup to replace Gore. Kareem Hunt would have been perfect if he had his head on straight. Of course if he did, he’d be playing in the Super Bowl. 1
machine gun kelly Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 3 hours ago, Augie said: How long before somebody brings up who we could have/should have drafted? I love the early production and the potential of this draft class. It’s too early for me to get carried away, however. I’d call myself optimistically hopeful. Everybody just needs to keep improving. Augie, hindsight is always easy, but we know we could have had Mahomes at 10 and not moved back for White. Now I love White and believe he is the best CB in football, and I really believe in Allen, but even a blind man can see Mahomes is something amazing. That’s why I’m really pulling for them this Sunday as well as Reid. I have nothing against SF, but I typically when not the Patriots root for the AFC team, and always root for whoever is playing the Pats. I was so pissed as Philly several years ago was in that game, ATL totally blew it, and Seattle should have won if they just would have Wilson roll out and either pitch to Lynch or take it in himself instead of that stupid call. As far 19, I agree with the OP that first four have tons of promise. That’s why we don’t need 9 picks in this draft as we are more talented, and if we bundled some of the 5’s and 6’s, We could definitely move up and probably get more sure fired winners. I’d be fine with only 4-5 picks if they all workout.
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 33 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: Augie, hindsight is always easy, but we know we could have had Mahomes at 10 and not moved back for White. Now I love White and believe he is the best CB in football, and I really believe in Allen, but even a blind man can see Mahomes is something amazing. That’s why I’m really pulling for them this Sunday as well as Reid. I have nothing against SF, but I typically when not the Patriots root for the AFC team, and always root for whoever is playing the Pats. I was so pissed as Philly several years ago was in that game, ATL totally blew it, and Seattle should have won if they just would have Wilson roll out and either pitch to Lynch or take it in himself instead of that stupid call. As far 19, I agree with the OP that first four have tons of promise. That’s why we don’t need 9 picks in this draft as we are more talented, and if we bundled some of the 5’s and 6’s, We could definitely move up and probably get more sure fired winners. I’d be fine with only 4-5 picks if they all workout. I just went back and googled 2017 pre-draft QB rating, one site listed him as 2nd rounder, future starter, another stated "moved up to 1st round, but calculated risk, anything but a sure thing" Another site listed him as 6th best a3rd to 4th rounder (same list ranked Peterman #10 BTW) Most all had Trubisky and Watson ranked higher, with Trubisky rated #1. Another site stated 2017 QB class lacks elite talent. Peterman was ranked 4th BTW and the most under rated right behind Mahomes at 3 who was listed as boom or bust If he had gone to Buffalo with the WR's we've had, poor line play to think he'd be looking anything close to amazing is pretty crazy. After three years, we still don't have an offense anywhere close to KC and not faulting the team for that. Granted we wouldn't had had to use the picks to move up, (though a couple of those picks came from KC in the trade) so may have been further along than we actually are in the rebuild, but highly doubt he'd have looked anything close to amazing yet. There's a much better chance we'd be talking about him being a bust than anything great at least after year #2. Maybe this past year would have started to see promise. 1
Kirby Jackson Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 4 hours ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: Round 1 • Pick 9 (9) • DT Ed Oliver. Round 2 • Pick 6 (38) • T Cody Ford. Round 3 • Pick 11 (74) • RB Devin Singletary. Round 3 • Pick 33 (96) • TE Dawson Knox. Round 6 • Pick 8 (181) • S Jaquan Johnson. Round 7 • Pick 11 (225) • DE Darryl Johnson the only one not to play due to being on IR was IIRC Round 5 • Pick 9 (147) • LB Vosean Joseph. I'm thinking the first 4 did well enough for themselves. Sorry if I missed a similar thread in my search Don’t forget Tommy Sweeney. I would have preferred a WR to Cody Ford in the 2nd and would have loved the class. With that being said, he’s okay. There were just more impactful options IMO. I’d say that the class is a solid B/B+ 4
machine gun kelly Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: I just went back and googled 2017 pre-draft QB rating, one site listed him as 2nd rounder, future starter, another stated "moved up to 1st round, but calculated risk, anything but a sure thing" Another site listed him as 6th best a3rd to 4th rounder (same list ranked Peterman #10 BTW) Most all had Trubisky and Watson ranked higher, with Trubisky rated #1. Another site stated 2017 QB class lacks elite talent. Peterman was ranked 4th BTW and the most under rated right behind Mahomes at 3 who was listed as boom or bust If he had gone to Buffalo with the WR's we've had, poor line play to think he'd be looking anything close to amazing is pretty crazy. After three years, we still don't have an offense anywhere close to KC and not faulting the team for that. Granted we wouldn't had had to use the picks to move up, (though a couple of those picks came from KC in the trade) so may have been further along than we actually are in the rebuild, but highly doubt he'd have looked anything close to amazing yet. There's a much better chance we'd be talking about him being a bust than anything great at least after year #2. Maybe this past year would have started to see promise. Ed, I don’t disagree with any of you’re comments as I’ve read the pre draft assessments as well. This why the most important word in my comments is hindsight is 20/20. No he wouldn’t be as amazing with this talent when he came out, but he eventually would have it in Buffalo. I’m praying for this year with a purged cap and excellent decisions for the last couple of years in free agency and the draft. This could be the year Allen gets everything he needs to have a top offense. I’m certainly praying for it. We have the $ and the picks to do it if McBeane keep making these good decisions on talent acquisitions. If they can find a Milano in the 5th, what can they do with this capital.
Thurman#1 Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 None have proven themselves except maybe Singletary, and though he's proven he's an NFL talent, how much of a pounding can he take? On the other hand, they look promising. Basically, it's the old stand-by ... it's too early.
Lurker Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: I just went back and googled 2017 pre-draft QB rating, http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/patrick-mahomes?id=2558125 DRAFT ANALYSIS: "He is a big-time gunslinger like Brett Favre. He's got the athletic ability. My question is can he learn to win in the pocket because to play in the NFL, at a certain point, you have to." -- Mike Mayock DRAFT PROJECTION Round 1-2 SOURCES TELL US "He's got a great arm, big balls and he's mobile. He is going to drive his head coach crazy for the first couple of years and there is no getting around that. If it clicks for him and he's coachable, I think he could become a special quarterback." - NFC executive NFL COMPARISON Jay Cutler BOTTOM LINE Mahomes is a big, confident quarterback who brings a variety of physical tools to the party, but he's developed some bad habits and doesn't have a very repeatable process as a passer. Mahomes' ability to improvise and extend plays can lead to big plays for his offense, but he will have to prove he can operate with better anticipation and be willing to take what the defense gives him in order to win from the pocket. Mahomes will be a work in progress, but he's a high ceiling, low floor prospect. DRAFT ANALYSIS: "He is a big-time gunslinger like Brett Favre. He's got the athletic ability. My question is can he learn to win in the pocket because to play in the NFL, at a certain point, you have to." -- Mike MayockDRAFT ANALYSIS: "He is a big-time gunslinger like Brett Favre. He's got the athletic ability. My question is can he learn to win in the pocket because to play in the NFL, at a certain point, you have to." -- Mike Mayock 1
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