BillsDiehard Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 Jacob Holister emerged from nowhere this past season and was a HUGE part of Seattle's passing attacj after losing Luke Willson and Will Dissly. He's an RFA this off-season and 3rd on their depth chart. He played with Josh Allen at Wyoming! He may be a better option than Kroft to pair with Knox.
MAJBobby Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 Just now, BillsDiehard said: Jacob Holister emerged from nowhere this past season and was a HUGE part of Seattle's passing attacj after losing Luke Willson and Will Dissly. He's an RFA this off-season and 3rd on their depth chart. He played with Josh Allen at Wyoming! He may be a better option than Kroft to pair with Knox. Depends on what tender level they put on him. 1st round Tender - No Way 2nd round Tender - No Way Original Round Tender - No Compensation - Unless he is given this tender level I am not touching him. 5 1
BillsDiehard Posted January 27, 2020 Author Posted January 27, 2020 He was an undrafted FA signed by NE and traded for a conditional 7th round pick. I'd rather have him than Kroft. 1
thenorthremembers Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 If you watch Josh's 2017 film this guy shows up a lot. I was surprised he went undrafted. Why not.
Johnny Hammersticks Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 Do we really have a need at TE? 1 1
The Jokeman Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 Just now, Johnny Hammersticks said: Do we really have a need at TE? We have a need for a #1 TE not a depth TE which I think what Hollister is. Personally I'd pass on him.
whatdrought Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 He's a TE that wears a number in the 40's...Yuck. Kidding, mostly. I don't think they will let him walk. They'll likely put a third round tender on him.
RyanC883 Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 not a terrible idea if the tender is low, but I'm going all in on Hooper or Henry,. 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 42 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Do we really have a need at TE? Perhaps? Knox - Promising rookie with unacceptable 20% drop rate who has whiffed some key blocks. Hopefully he'll improve, but do we want to bet on it? Sweeney - Looked a bit clueless early in season, played well 5-5 in Jets game. He clocked slow (4.83 40-time) but he seems to play faster? Good development guy, don't bank on him. Kroft - Was supposed to be TE #1, slowed by injury, did not emerge (including during Jets game). Better blocker than Knox but has still whiffed a couple. Smith - Good blocker who *may* have locked down his false start and holding penalties. Faster than a snail on speed, but that's a low bar.... Croom - written up in Fansided as "forgotten weapon" but just seems kind of forgettable to me. Played significant snaps in all 16 games 2018, but had the same number of TDs in 2018 as Lee Smith had this year - namely, one (1). Said favorable writeup acknowledges him as "not yet a polished blocker". Spent 2019 on IR with a "hamstring injury" I don't think 2-3 quality tight ends is too many, so even if we assume Knox and Sweeney follow up on their promise and take a step, I'd like to see us make a play for a true #1 guy. And I'd like us to have at least 2 who look like pretty sure bets for a quality contribution. We owe Lee Smith $1.5M regardless, extra $0.5M if he's on the roster March 22, $3.2M cap hit if he plays out the season We owe Tyler Kroft $2.75M if he's on the roster March 22, $6.6M cap hit if he plays out the season Some people are like "Kroft was injured, give him a year". I'm like "Kroft was all but invisible for the games he did play, including the Jets game where he could have been featured". I'm concerned that Kroft is one of these NFL guys that really prefers to be a backup and would rather not have the pain or the expectations that go with being the Guy. 30 minutes ago, whatdrought said: He's a TE that wears a number in the 40's...Yuck. Kidding, mostly. I don't think they will let him walk. They'll likely put a third round tender on him. I don't think that's possible? I think the choices are 1st round tender, 2nd round tender, or original round tender (he was undrafted) I could be wrong, but I don't think you can put a 3rd round tender on an undrafted guy. 1
Big Turk Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 I don't think they need anyone else at TE unless they plan on cutting Kroft. Knox should continue to develop and I think he could be a star in this league. Sweeney seems like he is one of those Metzelaars type TE's that shouldn't get open but just has a knack for getting open.
NewEra Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 55 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Do we really have a need at TE? Absolutely
noacls Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 I dont see a need at TE. If Knox learns how to catch I think he is a top 5 TE in the AFC. Sweeney also shows well when he gets a chance and will continue to develop. 3rd TE is prolly Smith, an upgrade there would be nice.
MAJBobby Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 Just now, noacls said: I dont see a need at TE. If Knox learns how to catch I think he is a top 5 TE in the AFC. Sweeney also shows well when he gets a chance and will continue to develop. 3rd TE is prolly Smith, an upgrade there would be nice. Knox - Potential Sweeney - Inactive ALL YEAR If you are fine with that going into off-season and don't think this is a position of need. I suggest you want Kelce and Kittle in the SB
noacls Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Knox - Potential Sweeney - Inactive ALL YEAR If you are fine with that going into off-season and don't think this is a position of need. I suggest you want Kelce and Kittle in the SB I suggest you tell me where the Bills are going to find Kittle or Kelce in free agency.
MAJBobby Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 Just now, noacls said: I suggest you tell me where the Bills are going to find Kittle or Kelce in free agency. Hunter Henry and Austin Hooper paired with the potential of Knox NOW you have legit TEs 2
Gambit Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, noacls said: I dont see a need at TE. If Knox learns how to catch I think he is a top 5 TE in the AFC. Sweeney also shows well when he gets a chance and will continue to develop. 3rd TE is prolly Smith, an upgrade there would be nice. That's a huge if. I hope Knox can develop but anyone truly counting on him is crazy. We need a upgrade badly right now. And if he somehow does pan out, we'd have 2 solid TEs. Nothing wrong with that. 1
noacls Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Hunter Henry and Austin Hooper paired with the potential of Knox NOW you have legit TEs Henry has missed 23 games in 4 years, no thanks. Hooper would be a nice signing did not realize he was so young. 1
MAJBobby Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) Just now, noacls said: Henry has missed 23 games in 4 years, no thanks. Hooper would be a nice signing did not realize he was so young. 16 of those games with a torn ACL. That happens. Only other injury major was the broken tibal plateau to start this season. Other INJ include 1 concussion (1 game) and lacerated kidney (2 games) Edited January 27, 2020 by MAJBobby
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