Doc Brown Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Magox said: We will have a much better idea over the next couple weeks. But if the reporting is correct the average age of the people getting infected are much younger than before, there are a lot of asymptotic positives, surveillance testing and contact tracing is way up, hospitals and doctors are better equipped to treat patients and it’s possible that the virus is mutating and getting weaker (that was said today by DeSantis and by many others). If deaths go up some and not a big spike then the trade off Is worth it. Overall public health and the economy are in the other side of the ledger and that is a huge consideration. Possible as an Italian doctor said the same recently. Another possibility is with social distancing/mask wearing people are getting infected with a lower amount of the virus but still test positive. 3
B-Man Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 GEORGE KORDA: Protests amid the pandemic: What about distancing and masking? People need clarity and consistency from leaders, particularly in times of emergency. If public safety isn’t truly at risk, then say so. However, if it is, then it’s worth risking someone’s ire by mentioning safety precautions when congratulating gatherings of large groups. Don’t leave unanswered an obvious question: in the face of the pandemic, were such gatherings allowed, or not? People know when leaders are avoiding an obvious question. Related: All that bar-hopping and spring-breaking: Press ignores protests as source of new wave of COVID-19. Think of the press as a psychological warfare effort aimed at normal Americans and you won’t go far wrong. 1 1
plenzmd1 Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Warren Zevon said: did oyu actually read the article? His distance smelling is a bit off...man, lets keep everyone in lockdown and schools closed cause one dude cant smell bacon from 50 metres. What an asshat headline, and people wonder why the media cant be trusted 1 2
SectionC3 Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, B-Man said: GEORGE KORDA: Protests amid the pandemic: What about distancing and masking? People need clarity and consistency from leaders, particularly in times of emergency. If public safety isn’t truly at risk, then say so. However, if it is, then it’s worth risking someone’s ire by mentioning safety precautions when congratulating gatherings of large groups. Don’t leave unanswered an obvious question: in the face of the pandemic, were such gatherings allowed, or not? People know when leaders are avoiding an obvious question. Related: All that bar-hopping and spring-breaking: Press ignores protests as source of new wave of COVID-19. Think of the press as a psychological warfare effort aimed at normal Americans and you won’t go far wrong. I was thinking the same thing! The lame stream media is so wrong on this one. Trump should stand idly by as Russians pay foreigners to hunt American soldiers! And people should do as trump says — wear a mask, snowflakes — and not as he does. Make American again keep great again 2020! Edited June 29, 2020 by SectionC3
Warren Zevon Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 1 minute ago, SectionC3 said: I was thinking the same thing! The lame stream media is so wrong on this one. Trump should stand idly but as Russians pay foreigners to hunt American soldiers! And people should do as trump says — wear a mask, snowflakes — and not as he does. Make American again keep great again 2020! No, it's Keep America Great!
SectionC3 Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Warren Zevon said: No, it's Keep America Great! My bad! I’ve heard so many conflicting things that I can’t keep it all straight on the 2020 slogan. Keep America great! Edited June 29, 2020 by SectionC3
SectionC3 Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 Observation: Ron DeSantis is doing a great job. Floridians are glad that he took Trump’s view that the virus would magically disappear by April.
keepthefaith Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Penfield45 said: People of color can’t be racist toward white people. it’s literally against the definition of the word racism. We can be prejudice, but not racist Truly sad that this is foundational in your value system.
shoshin Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 It’s not possible for the sewage to leak into every thread is it? 1
GG Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 2 hours ago, shoshin said: It’s not possible for the sewage to leak into every thread is it? Polluters must pollute. It's what they do.
Magox Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 6 hours ago, B-Man said: Penfield demonstrating his own ignorance again. CDC Antibody Studies Confirm Huge Gap Between COVID-19 Infections and Known Cases: The difference implies that the virus is much less deadly than it looks, but it also makes contact tracing a daunting challenge. I remember telling a couple people here that contact tracing would be nearly impossible for the US to effectively do to root out or essentially stop the spread. The same person I told that young kids are most likely very low emitters of the virus and the same person I said that many Americans won’t wear a mask no matter who tells them after they tried asserting that since Koreans do so we could to. Theoretically yes but in practice that’s a pipe dream. In any case this is a very interesting tidbit: This says two things, that there are a lot of people who have the virus in that particular area and that a statistically significant portion of the COVID hospitalizations are not for COVID related reasons. These people are asymptomatic 5 hours ago, SectionC3 said: Observation: Ron DeSantis is doing a great job. Floridians are glad that he took Trump’s view that the virus would magically disappear by April. You’re an idiot 2 1
Magox Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 And look at this: Very few of the Emergency room visits are COVID symptom related issues relative to in previous months. The only age group really showing an increase are younger people. Florida so far is handling the issue the way it was realistically intended to have done which was protect the most vulnerable while normalizing society. They just have to hope that the spread doesn’t reach seniors in a significant manner. 2
reddogblitz Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 (edited) Two points about protests not causing COVID. 1. They had huge protests in places like Dallas and Houston too. Oregon, protest central, is one of the hard hit states as is CA. Seattle's daily new cases was flat at approximately 180 from April 20 to June 1. Since then it has climbed to 549. When I see protest pictures I sometimes count mask vs no mask it's usually 60% masks. Of course this is contributing. 2. I believe the protests have contributed in another way. After watching these large protests with people packed in yelling and being praised for it, many people are saying fug it. Must not be as bad as they say, so let's party. Also TX and FL opened before May 1. Even a pandemic has to be political these days. It IS an election year after all. Edited June 29, 2020 by reddogblitz 1 1
SectionC3 Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Magox said: I remember telling a couple people here that contact tracing would be nearly impossible for the US to effectively do to root out or essentially stop the spread. The same person I told that young kids are most likely very low emitters of the virus and the same person I said that many Americans won’t wear a mask no matter who tells them after they tried asserting that since Koreans do so we could to. Theoretically yes but in practice that’s a pipe dream. In any case this is a very interesting tidbit: This says two things, that there are a lot of people who have the virus in that particular area and that a statistically significant portion of the COVID hospitalizations are not for COVID related reasons. These people are asymptomatic You’re an idiot Hoax. But it is fair to say that Ron DeSantis is an idiot.
Tiberius Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 CORONAVIRUS Pence urges mask-wearing as cases soar “It’s a good time to steer clear of senior citizens and to practice the kind of measures that will keep our most vulnerable safe,” Vice President Pence said at an event in Dallas. By Felicia Sonmez, Siobhán O'Grady and Derek Hawkins
SoCal Deek Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 (edited) Just now, SoCal Deek said: Yesterday, Sunday, we saw another low point in Covid fatalities. Only california topped 30 deaths. A whopping 40 states were in single digits with twenty reporting zero deaths. I know, I know, it was Sunday but so was every other Sunday in the almost three months I’ve been posting this daily tally. Cases are up and deaths are down...I’ll take it! Edited June 29, 2020 by SoCal Deek
BuffaloHokie13 Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 Finally got my antibody test done, should have the results this week. Guy who drew the blood was from Glens Falls. He's going to come to the Bills Backers bar this fall lol 1
GG Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 14 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Finally got my antibody test done, should have the results this week. Guy who drew the blood was from Glens Falls. He's going to come to the Bills Backers bar this fall lol My results were available within 6 hrs, btw. Negative, alas. 2 hours ago, SectionC3 said: Hoax. But it is fair to say that Ron DeSantis is an idiot. Imagine that, a lawyer who misinterprets data. No wonder you're a Democrat supporter. 1 1
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