Magox Posted June 19, 2020 Posted June 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Magox said: It certainly is playing a part but isn't painting the entire picture. I think it's coming from a variety of places, contact tracing, some companies paying for employees before they enter into the workplace, prisons, migrant agricultural worker testing etc. I was listening to DeSantis presser today and there were some interesting factual tidbits, such as: 1) That ICU usage has not been increasing and in fact roughly about 50% lower than it's peak. 2) That the majority of deaths now are coming from Long-term facilities. 3) That less people are testing positive in the long-term facilities than before and is trending lower. 4) That overall deaths are still trending lower 5) That ventilator usage is trending lower 6) That 80% of the people who have tested positive over the past week are under the age of 45 7) That hospital bed capacity is 50% higher now than it was in Late March and that is including all the elective surgeries and hospital usage 8 ) That the vast majority of the people who have tested positive are asymptomatic and not people who suspected they had the virus but rather done through targeted sweeps and contact tracing. Yeah, This isn't even an option. I only keep up with the data because it's something I enjoy tracking. There is no going back. If there is it will only be on a very limited targeted basis and even then the compliance will be terrible. This was dealing with #7 that I heard today. 1
shoshin Posted June 19, 2020 Posted June 19, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Magox said: This was dealing with #7 that I heard today. I don't know the answer but does Florida beds mean it has 2x the capacity to manage those beds or just literally beds. I bet it's the later. Hard to find all the HCWs needed to double capacity in just a few months. Edited June 19, 2020 by shoshin
Magox Posted June 19, 2020 Posted June 19, 2020 Just now, shoshin said: I don't know the answer but does Florida beds mean it has 2x the capacity to manage those beds or just literally beds. I bet it's the later. Hard to find all the HCWs needed to double capacity. I think what they are saying is STOP ENGAGING IN PANIC PORN! 3
shoshin Posted June 19, 2020 Posted June 19, 2020 9 minutes ago, B-Man said: REMINDER: Flattening the curve always meant having higher hospitalizations now. To recap, here are the graph features — and where we are as of June 18: Dark black line: Hospital bed capacity, “approximately 25,000” Red peak: The “minimal action” projection: hospitals overwhelmed by an order of magnitude, approximately 225,000 hospitalizations by the peak in late April Orange peak: The “social distancing” projection: hospitals overwhelmed by a much smaller magnitude, approximately 90,000 hospitalizations by the peak in mid-May Blue peak: The “stay-at-home” projection: hospitals never overwhelmed, approximately 12,000 hospitalizations by the peak in early July June 18: Real-time data as of June 18, after recording the 10th record number of hospitalizations this month: 857 hospitalizations These figures are for North Carolina, but it’s been more or less the same everywhere. Covid-19 has underperformed. To be fair, so has our political/journalistic class. NC does not seem to have the same potential problem as AZ. 1 minute ago, Magox said: I think what they are saying is STOP ENGAGING IN PANIC PORN! That's not numbers, thanks. I doubt any state could double their ICU capacity in 3 months. That would require a lot of doctors and nurses to magically appear.
Penfield45 Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 (edited) To anyone thinking this virus is going away...news flash. it isn't not with the way our federal government has handled it. truly an utter disaster. and yet folks don't wanna wear masks because they "don't believe in them" Edited June 20, 2020 by Penfield45 1
Deranged Rhino Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: To anyone thinking this virus is going away...news flash. it isn't Neither is your particular brand of vile racism. 5 hours ago, Penfield45 said: lmao what the ***** is this? I now see why this place is one of the least educated areas in the country. Those black people in the video are as brainwashed as the white folks. thats why Biden took all the black voters in the south, they are all dumb as hell. 1
Koko78 Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 37 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: To anyone thinking this virus is going away...news flash. it isn't No schiff, Sherlock. The measures put in place were never meant to (or going to) eliminate the virus. You'd have to be a complete idiot to think they were. 2
Big Blitz Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 48 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: To anyone thinking this virus is going away...news flash. it isn't not with the way our federal government has handled it. truly an utter disaster. and yet folks don't wanna wear masks because they "don't believe in them" Who said the objective as we enter *checks notes* month 4 of my kids losing growth and development they can't have back, was to eliminate the virus? Missed that. What I didn't miss was seeing my 7 year old daughter excited to play baseball. Finally one of my 4 was seriously hooked on America's past time. Spent the fall watching the Yankees in the playoffs with me. She had that youthful excitement that gives a parent's life meaning and purpose.....now I have to hope that same desire is there in 12 months. Or 18. Or till a vaccine. Now she'll be 9 and has been traumatized by "social distanced" school. She loses interest in sports because she's gone 12-18 months of not seeing them let alone playing them. The pos governor's barking out orders in a condescending manner bc we have the audacity to demand explanations and goals as we do this to kids is appalling. "Don't make me come down there." Mask shaming. Absolutely pathetic. I love the digs I see thrown at people like me for wanting to be open and normal. "Sorry you can't get a haircut." "Caring about the economy over lives." Um. No. I can only watch and worry every single day that my kids will not be able to do the things they love, things that when done at their age set the trajectory of their lives. I'm responsible for that. And I'm powerless with NO JUSTIFICATION. NO GOAL. NO CLARITY. And I'm not absolving Rs here. I'm just as ticked at them over this to, even tho most R Govs are trying to get back to normal. And the press not questioning ANY of this on behalf of parents like me is disgusting. 1 1 2 4
Big Blitz Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 As someone said in the replies....sportswriter Twitter is the worst. 1
Penfield45 Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Big Blitz said: Who said the objective as we enter *checks notes* month 4 of my kids losing growth and development they can't have back, was to eliminate the virus? Missed that. What I didn't miss was seeing my 7 year old daughter excited to play baseball. Finally one of my 4 was seriously hooked on America's past time. Spent the fall watching the Yankees in the playoffs with me. She had that youthful excitement that gives a parent's life meaning and purpose.....now I have to hope that same desire is there in 12 months. Or 18. Or till a vaccine. Now she'll be 9 and has been traumatized by "social distanced" school. She loses interest in sports because she's gone 12-18 months of not seeing them let alone playing them. The pos governor's barking out orders in a condescending manner bc we have the audacity to demand explanations and goals as we do this to kids is appalling. "Don't make me come down there." Mask shaming. Absolutely pathetic. I love the digs I see thrown at people like me for wanting to be open and normal. "Sorry you can't get a haircut." "Caring about the economy over lives." Um. No. I can only watch and worry every single day that my kids will not be able to do the things they love, things that when done at their age set the trajectory of their lives. I'm responsible for that. And I'm powerless with NO JUSTIFICATION. NO GOAL. NO CLARITY. And I'm not absolving Rs here. I'm just as ticked at them over this to, even tho most R Govs are trying to get back to normal. And the press not questioning ANY of this on behalf of parents like me is disgusting. omg there are people losing loved ones and aren't able to say goodbye to them in their final days and you are on here complaining because your kids couldn't ***** play baseball? holy ***** the privilege is so unreal. take a deep breath buddy, I promise you your kids will be totally fine. God I wish I could screenshot this post and put it up on twitter and facebook, you will literally go viral in minutes because of insanely moronic you sound.
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: omg there are people losing loved ones and aren't able to say goodbye to them in their final days and you are on here complaining because your kids couldn't ***** play baseball? holy ***** the privilege is so unreal. take a deep breath buddy, I promise you your kids will be totally fine. God I wish I could screenshot this post and put it up on twitter and facebook, you will literally go viral in minutes because of insanely moronic you sound. Well there kids have to have something for future. Gotta understand everyone situtions different. Would be same boat if I had kids. I'm sorry. Love people here. There is sitution's many people including you don't need to know. People here are nice. Love other post and seeing people here. Before judge me went thru many crap some might be worst you can think but people are awesome. Usly go away in life to see people here makes things easier. I have major PTSD over lots of things but people awesome make me forget it. 2
Big Blitz Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Penfield45 said: omg there are people losing loved ones and aren't able to say goodbye to them in their final days and you are on here complaining because your kids couldn't ***** play baseball? holy ***** the privilege is so unreal. take a deep breath buddy, I promise you your kids will be totally fine. God I wish I could screenshot this post and put it up on twitter and facebook, you will literally go viral in minutes because of insanely moronic you sound. Yes ignoring the concern about the future and welfare of my kids is something I should totally be ashamed of bc people are dying. Wow. I must have missed that to. I had no idea! Sorry kids. People have died (bc Cuomo sent old folks to nursing homes and thought cleaning subways was unnecessary) just sit here and enjoy the privilege of distance learning we can't handle because you've never done it, mom and dad have to work for a living while we still have jobs I'm told don't matter (money over lives or some b.s), a bonus privilege is the people that are going to utilize it are not trained for it so what could go wrong, and you likely won't be doing any extracurricular activities. The rich will be fine. We, the little people just need to obey. Kids: "Why?" Well we don't know. I'm told people have died. How long will this last? They aren't saying. What's the goal? We don't know that either. Makes sense. 3
Penfield45 Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Big Blitz said: Yes ignoring the concern about the future and welfare of my kids is something I should totally be ashamed of bc people are dying. Wow. I must have missed that to. I had no idea! Sorry kids. People have died (bc Cuomo sent old folks to nursing homes and thought cleaning subways was unnecessary) just sit here and enjoy the privilege of distance learning we can't handle because you've never done it, mom and dad have to work for a living while we still have jobs I'm told don't matter (money over lives or some b.s), a bonus privilege is the people that are going to utilize it are not trained for it so what could go wrong, and you likely won't be doing any extracurricular activities. The rich will be fine. We, the little people just need to obey. Kids: "Why?" Well we don't know. I'm told people have died. How long will this last? They aren't saying. What's the goal? We don't know that either. Makes sense. I understand your frustration. you anger should be pointed towards the federal government, not science Blame the government for leaving americans with a measly 1200 check to cover 4+ months. I hope after this ppl finally wake up and realize how little America cares about its working class citizens. you are angry at the wrong people. the higher ups are to blame for everything, don't blame state governors, they are doing the best they can. Trump and his regime do NOT care about you. remember that 1
plenzmd1 Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Penfield45 said: omg there are people losing loved ones and aren't able to say goodbye to them in their final days and you are on here complaining because your kids couldn't ***** play baseball? holy ***** the privilege is so unreal. take a deep breath buddy, I promise you your kids will be totally fine. God I wish I could screenshot this post and put it up on twitter and facebook, you will literally go viral in minutes because of insanely moronic you sound. People can’t say goodbye to their loved ones cause the “state”’says they can’t. Not quite sure why cause we are now told cloth masks stops the transmission of the virus, but somehow a n95 mask ain’t gunna stop it in a hospital room. A grand total of 31 deaths to age 15 and under. Care to guess how many die of flu every year? WTF, let’s just shelter out kids in place till they turn 21 cause , damn, some may get sick, some may get hit by a car, some may die if they are not out in a bubble. 31 kids and our entire school system shut down, camps shut down, etc. and lord knows how many kids are now malnourished , not vaccinated ( according to CDC, vaccinations down almost 40%) and getting abused with no adult to turn to. Just by comparison, 37 deaths is the LOWEST number of pediatric flu deaths since 2004, when they first started tracking. start freaking thinking and stop being triggered by the word Covid. You and your ilk have blood on your hands when it comes to the devastation being wrought on the children of this country, how you sleep at night is beside me. 6 1
LB3 Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Penfield45 said: 1 - Blame the government for leaving americans with a measly 1200 check to cover 4+ months. 2 - I hope after this ppl finally wake up and realize how little America cares about its working class citizens. you are angry at the wrong people. 3 - the higher ups are to blame for everything, don't blame state governors, they are doing the best they can. ?? You gotta love communists. Their anger fuels them to unparalleled heights of stupidity. @first_and_ten Your "contributions" in the other thread were amazing. You come in full on Karen, wondering why PPP hasn't been canceled. Then go on to have an exchange where you make fun of loony conspiracy theory believing righties, and in the next breath say Trump would be in out of office if not for a huge cover up (read - conspiracy). You then start slinging some "ok boomer" style insults before checking out of the conversation victorious (read - going to bed drunk). You sir, are a shooting star. I look forward to reading more from you. I leave this, in honor of your epic night of owning dumb "Trumlets". 3 2
GG Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 3 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: People can’t say goodbye to their loved ones cause the “state”’says they can’t. Not quite sure why cause we are now told cloth masks stops the transmission of the virus, but somehow a n95 mask ain’t gunna stop it in a hospital room. A grand total of 31 deaths to age 15 and under. Care to guess how many die of flu every year? WTF, let’s just shelter out kids in place till they turn 21 cause , damn, some may get sick, some may get hit by a car, some may die if they are not out in a bubble. 31 kids and our entire school system shut down, camps shut down, etc. and lord knows how many kids are now malnourished , not vaccinated ( according to CDC, vaccinations down almost 40%) and getting abused with no adult to turn to. Just by comparison, 37 deaths is the LOWEST number of pediatric flu deaths since 2004, when they first started tracking. start freaking thinking and stop being triggered by the word Covid. You and your ilk have blood on your hands when it comes to the devastation being wrought on the children of this country, how you sleep at night is beside me. For the newbies here, this is coming from a likely Biden voter. Perspective is an underrated trait. 2
whatdrought Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Penfield45 said: don't blame state governors, they are doing the best they can. They really have done a fantastic job killing old people, dictating the lives of innocent people, arresting dissenters, ruining the economy, having a “them, not us” mentality, and being wildly inconsistent to fit their political bull####. Honestly, I’ve been inspired at just how communistic and totalitarian they’ve been. Well done Comrades. As the Beatles sing: “Back in the USSR!” Also, you’re an idiot. Edited June 20, 2020 by whatdrought 1 1 3 2
Tiberius Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 21 minutes ago, whatdrought said: They really have done a fantastic job killing old people, dictating the lives of innocent people, arresting dissenters, ruining the economy, having a “them, not us” mentality, and being wildly inconsistent to fit their political bull####. Honestly, I’ve been inspired at just how communistic and totalitarian they’ve been. Well done Comrades. As the Beatles sing: “Back in the USSR!” Also, you’re an idiot. Maybe they should have held rallies during this pandemic, huh? Moron
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