GG Posted June 13, 2020 Posted June 13, 2020 20 minutes ago, BillStime said: Sounds fair enough. Who were the leaders in NYS who were telling Federal govt that everything was fine? 1
Deranged Rhino Posted June 13, 2020 Posted June 13, 2020 The experts exposed themselves as frauds. The media and leadership exposed themselves as hypocrites. Biggest breach of trust in recent memory for many millions of Americans... There will be a tremendous price to pay for all those people in the end. 3 2
Buffalo_Gal Posted June 13, 2020 Posted June 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, GG said: Sounds fair enough. Who were the leaders in NYS who were telling Federal govt that everything was fine? Who were the leaders in NYS that told the feds; we don't need no stinkin' national guard to deal with NYC rioters? People seem to have a real problem distinguishing what level of government is responsible for what action. It is like they have never read the Constitution or somethin'. 1 1
Big Blitz Posted June 13, 2020 Posted June 13, 2020 From April 15 to May 15 over 67,000 Americans died. From May 15 to June 13 (same time frame) its about 25,000. Anyone care to explain why this isn't the story on low info news and Twitter? Oh that's right. Gotta keep the economy in the self inflicted tank and blame Trump for it. 1 1
123719bwiqrb Posted June 13, 2020 Posted June 13, 2020 20 hours ago, shoshin said: Critical thinking is called for here. You don't go from 40-50 new hospitalizations a day for 3 months to suddenly one in one day. What happens in AZ is probably what happens in PA, and that is that the hospitalization data trails. You can't look at PA hospitalizations within the last 7 days--it's always very low, but gets filled in later. Just an FYI. That's a bunk number from someone not giving it a lot of thought. I am going to follow this. IF @shoshin is right, then the covad hospitalizations will get back populated early next week, right? THen only he can post covatard data updates for 1 week, and Horowitz is banned for ever. If @shoshin is wrong, he needs to apologise to @Big Blitz, and the blitz guy will have responsibility for new updates for one week. Setting a reminder for Tuesday.
shoshin Posted June 13, 2020 Posted June 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, 123719bwiqrb said: I am going to follow this. IF @shoshin is right, then the covad hospitalizations will get back populated early next week, right? THen only he can post covatard data updates for 1 week, and Horowitz is banned for ever. If @shoshin is wrong, he needs to apologise to @Big Blitz, and the blitz guy will have responsibility for new updates for one week. Setting a reminder for Tuesday. Well June 9 is already up to 13 on backfilling the data but I don’t care if he keeps posting. He looks for a narrative and then finds facts to fit it. You can see that is his MO. https://www.azdhs.gov/preparedness/epidemiology-disease-control/infectious-disease-epidemiology/covid-19/dashboards/index.php 14 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: From April 15 to May 15 over 67,000 Americans died. From May 15 to June 13 (same time frame) its about 25,000. Anyone care to explain why this isn't the story on low info news and Twitter? Oh that's right. Gotta keep the economy in the self inflicted tank and blame Trump for it. Who doesn’t know that deaths are way down? Have you not noticed how many places are reopening?
SoCal Deek Posted June 13, 2020 Posted June 13, 2020 Just now, shoshin said: Well June 9 is already up to 13 on backfilling the data but I don’t care if he keeps posting. He looks for a narrative and then finds facts to fit it. You can see that is his MO. https://www.azdhs.gov/preparedness/epidemiology-disease-control/infectious-disease-epidemiology/covid-19/dashboards/index.php I’ve been posting the same numbers from the same source every day for almost two months. Seems like the proper use of the scientific method. 1
shoshin Posted June 13, 2020 Posted June 13, 2020 23 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I’ve been posting the same numbers from the same source every day for almost two months. Seems like the proper use of the scientific method. No one was talking to you but OK.
B-Man Posted June 13, 2020 Posted June 13, 2020 SCIENCE: NPR: “Mounting Evidence” Suggests COVID Not As Deadly as Thought. Did the Experts Fail Again? . 4
GG Posted June 13, 2020 Posted June 13, 2020 14 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: It's clearly obvious where Billstime gets its marching orders from. 7
RiotAct Posted June 13, 2020 Posted June 13, 2020 37 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: is “The Democrats” a parody account? Can’t imagine anyone having that tenuous a grip on reality. 5
Chef Jim Posted June 13, 2020 Posted June 13, 2020 4 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: The experts exposed themselves as frauds. The media and leadership exposed themselves as hypocrites. Biggest breach of trust in recent memory for many millions of Americans... There will be a tremendous price to pay for all those people in the end. Mmhmmm. I thought Trump was a lying fraud. I’m thinking if he wore a mask fewer people would right? All of a sudden he becomes the sayer of what’s right? Oy..... 2 1
B-Man Posted June 14, 2020 Posted June 14, 2020 "So dogmatic was the dictate that we all stay at home that any attempt to question or even balance it... was deemed immoral." "Those who questioned state-mandated lockdown and stay-at-home orders, let alone left their homes to actually protest against them, were condemned as sociopaths who were willing to sacrifice the lives of old people for economic prosperity or the trivial, troglodyte desire to go to Applebees. Oftentimes those protesting lockdowns were vilified as white nationalists or at least driven by white racialist sentiments.... How is it remotely within the scope of the expertise of epidemiologists to pick and choose which political protests should be permitted and/or encouraged and which ones banned and/or denounced? Those are plainly political judgments, not scientific ones, and the shoddy, glaring conflation of them is nothing less than a manipulation, an abuse, of public health credentials. For scientists to purport to dictate which citizens can and cannot safely choose to leave their house — based not on health judgments but on their political ideology — is repressive, and certain to erode the credibility of their profession. Yet this is exactly what they are doing: explicitly and shamelessly.... At the very least, it is vital that we have the same health and legal standards apply to all citizens and all political ideologies when it comes to the right to leave one’s home, protest or engage in other legal activities. And at least as importantly, we need to understand whether public health experts were too restrictive in their advocated measures at the start of the pandemic, are being too lax now, or somehow can reconcile the radical shift in their posture on scientific rather than political grounds." From "The Abrupt, Radical Reversal in How Public Health Experts Now Speak About the Coronavirus and Mass Gatherings" by Glenn Greenwald (The Intercept). Posted by Ann Althouse . 2 1
SoCal Deek Posted June 14, 2020 Posted June 14, 2020 7 hours ago, shoshin said: No one was talking to you but OK. Dude...maybe you’re not aware but this is an Internet chat room! If you want to have private conversations this is not the venue. PS: We know, we know, you’re REALLY concerned about the virus. 1
Recommended Posts