The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19

[Chef Jim]

  On 5/16/2020 at 1:36 PM, Tiberius said:

Doesn’t Trump hate people like that? He hates people that are unsuccessful 

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What makes you say:

 

1.  Trump hates unsuccessful people?

2.  These people are unsuccessful?

[SoCal Deek]

  On 5/16/2020 at 1:37 PM, shoshin said:

It’s down. Not way down. And the summer of 1918 was awesome. 
 

I’ll call it over when we have it under control through a flu season. Until then we need to plan for its inevitable return this fall and work like MFers on treatments. 

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Never said we shouldn’t prepare for next season. We have the ability to do that now, without reverting to the surrender position of telling everyone to stay inside. 

[Boatdrinks]

  On 5/16/2020 at 1:09 PM, pop gun said:

For everyone who thinks masks help, read this.

 

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Without all the details/ minutiae this is the conclusion that Fauci had when initially asked about the wearing of masks. We are not a mask / facecover wearing culture, so in the recesses of our mind masks have a sinister and mysterious connotation. They keep us at a heightened sense of risk/ fear and that is really the intention. 

[SoCal Deek]

  On 5/16/2020 at 2:12 PM, Boatdrinks said:

Without all the details/ minutiae this is the conclusion that Fauci had when initially asked about the wearing of masks. We are not a mask / facecover wearing culture, so in the recesses of our mind masks have a sinister and mysterious connotation. They keep us at a heightened sense of risk/ fear and that is really the intention. 

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Seinfeld reference: “Who doesn’t want to wear the Ribbon?” 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

...if and IF I read correctly recently, there was a component in the CARES Act that provided funding through the Medicare vehicle.....and it actually provides three times as much for a Covid-19 "reported death".....see link below to USA Today article...looks like money to be made for exaggerated numbers....

As US coronavirus death toll mounts, so does the belief by some that it is exaggerated

By Robert Gearty | Fox News

 

There’s a reason why some people believe government officials are exaggerating the number of COVID-19 fatalities.

One problem is the hodgepodge way states tally those numbers, Fox News has found.

Some states count presumed coronavirus deaths along with confirmed cases under Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidance issued last month. Other states don’t count those deaths.

Deaths have been classified as a COVID-19 death even after a physician or loved ones reported otherwise. And those who died “with" COVID-19 have been included in the count with those who died “of" COVID-19.

 

“I think a lot of clinicians are putting that condition (COVID-19) on death certificates when it might not be accurate because they died with coronavirus and not of coronavirus,” Macomb County, Mich., Chief Medical Examiner Daniel Spitz in an interview with the Ann Arbor News last month.

 

“Are they entirely accurate? No,” Spitz said. “Are people dying of it? Absolutely. Are people dying of other things and coronavirus is maybe getting credit? Yeah, probably.”

 

The doctor also told Fox News that he believes there are people who died of COVID-19, but weren't counted. Determining a COVID-19 death is based on each doctor's best clinical impression and that varies, he said.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/as-u-s-coronavirus-death-toll-mounts-so-does-the-belief-it-is-exaggerated

 

from USA Today..

Fact check: Hospitals get paid more if patients listed as COVID-19, on ventilators

Michelle Rogers

USA TODAY Network

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/04/24/fact-check-medicare-hospitals-paid-more-covid-19-patients-coronavirus/3000638001/

 

 

 

[shoshin]

  On 5/16/2020 at 2:09 PM, SoCal Deek said:

Never said we shouldn’t prepare for next season. We have the ability to do that now, without reverting to the surrender position of telling everyone to stay inside. 

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You have been saying and said, “This thing is over.” I can only go off your words. 

[BillStime]

  On 5/16/2020 at 2:12 PM, Boatdrinks said:

Without all the details/ minutiae this is the conclusion that Fauci had when initially asked about the wearing of masks. We are not a mask / facecover wearing culture, so in the recesses of our mind masks have a sinister and mysterious connotation. They keep us at a heightened sense of risk/ fear and that is really the intention. 

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paranoid AF

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

...MSM is gonna be PO'ed..............

 

Colorado amends coronavirus death count - says fewer have died of COVID-19 than previously thought

By Robert Gearty | Fox News

 

Colorado has made a stunning and significant change to the way it counts COVID-19 deaths that reduced the statewide figure from more than 1,000 to 878, according to a report.

The change came after Colorado’s Department of Public Health admitted that its COVID-19 death toll was counting those who tested positive for the coronavirus but had died of other causes, Fox 31 Denver reported late Friday.

 

The department now says 1,150 Coloradoans who died had COVID-19 but only 878 of those deaths were “due to” COVID-19.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/colorado-lowers-coronavirus-death-count

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

[Dante]

  On 5/16/2020 at 3:10 PM, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

...MSM is gonna be PO'ed..............

 

Colorado amends coronavirus death count - says fewer have died of COVID-19 than previously thought

By Robert Gearty | Fox News

 

Colorado has made a stunning and significant change to the way it counts COVID-19 deaths that reduced the statewide figure from more than 1,000 to 878, according to a report.

The change came after Colorado’s Department of Public Health admitted that its COVID-19 death toll was counting those who tested positive for the coronavirus but had died of other causes, Fox 31 Denver reported late Friday.

 

The department now says 1,150 Coloradoans who died had COVID-19 but only 878 of those deaths were “due to” COVID-19.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/colorado-lowers-coronavirus-death-count

 

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Considering 88000 died of the flu (US) in 2017-18 flu season 878 seems like an improvement.

[SoCal Deek]

  On 5/16/2020 at 2:25 PM, shoshin said:

You have been saying and said, “This thing is over.” I can only go off your words. 

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Yes it is. The story is over. We still have all sorts of diseases hanging around the planet from many many decades ago. We don’t shut the world off and we don’t talk about them day and night.

[Hedge]

  On 5/16/2020 at 4:27 AM, Hedge said:

 

 

According to this report the US *may* resume funding, up to the same amount that China does, which is a whole lot less than what we had been on the hook for previously.

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[Buffalo_Gal]

  On 5/16/2020 at 4:27 AM, Hedge said:

 

 

According to this report the US *may* resume funding, up to the same amount that China does, which is a whole lot less than what we had been on the hook for previously.

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[Buffalo Bills Fan]

Feel bad for some members here on twobillsdrive have covid19. Wish them the best. Have to support our fellow members here.

 

Ya agree with President Trump.

[Deranged Rhino]

 

But CA is locked down for three more months? Come on now.

[Dante]

  On 5/16/2020 at 4:31 PM, Deranged Rhino said:

 

But CA is locked down for three more months? Come on now.

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I bet any money the 77 patients they had were homeless. Alcohol poisoning, exposure, drug abuse, hit by a car etc. They had the sniffles so the liars labeled it covid because they have to justify docking that tub there somehow. 

[Big Gun]

  On 5/16/2020 at 1:22 PM, BillStime said:

America’s finest right here...

 

 

I mean - who doesn’t get their medical advice from Facebook? ???

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Confirmed, you're one of the idiots he is talking about!