TH3 Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: There's a reason for that. And the blame lies at the feet of a handful of posters with multiple accounts who feel it's their duty to troll. Mind you, I have no issue with posters who disagree (even wildly) with myself when they also show a willingness to engage honestly and openly. It's the drive by trolls who do the damage to the conversational flow in this thread and many others. That leaves two options when they start their morning romper room nuttiness: engage and embarrass, or ignore. Most days I lean towards the latter -- but others... We're at war, right this very moment. It's not a war with bullets, but information. And sometimes (not every time) people need to stand up and call out the disinformation for what it is, lest more people fall under its spell. At war with info....you are a joke. Global warming hoax...deep state...Benghazi!, Clinton...the only places those breath is in deep abscesses like here where jokes like you have enough back up to survive.
Deranged Rhino Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Bill Barr apparently doesn’t. Just now, TH3 said: At war with info....you are a joke. Proving, again, that you're deeply ignorant. Wars have been waged with information since the beginning of time. But nothing has been like the one we're engaged in at present. 1
SectionC3 Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Proving, again, that you're deeply ignorant. Wars have been waged with information since the beginning of time. But nothing has been like the one we're engaged in at present. Fake news. I’m not deeply ignorant. I’m also sane. 1
Deranged Rhino Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Fake news. I’m not deeply ignorant. I’m also sane. Yet too stupid to understand one post was for you and one was for TH3.
Chef Jim Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 27 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Bill Barr apparently doesn’t. Stuff like this is why you’re on the washed up psycho list. What does Bill Barr have to do with you aligning yourself with some of the most immature, childish, angry posters here?
BillStime Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 53,000 Americans are dead. In the coming days, we will pass milestones of deaths in the Vietnam War and Trump’s 60,000 prediction. At some point, Trump and our federal government are going to need to bring in competent experts and actually come up with a plan and do something! 1
B-Man Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 The weekends at the Covid didn’t turn out like you planned. Most U.S. Hospitals Are Empty. Soon They Might Be Closed for Good. Pennsylvania Forced To Remove Hundreds Of Deaths From Coronavirus Death Count After Coroners Raise Red Flags by Amanda Prestigiacomo Original Article 5
Chef Jim Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 30 minutes ago, BillStime said: 53,000 Americans are dead. In the coming days, we will pass milestones of deaths in the Vietnam War and Trump’s 60,000 prediction. At some point, Trump and our federal government are going to need to bring in competent experts and actually come up with a plan and do something! Good lord. Stop with the ***** hysteria. SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING! 1
Magox Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 The data that is coming out is overwhelming and it's pointing to the CoronaVirus having a much much lower mortality rate than what everyone feared. I would highly recommend that you guys read that article. It goes into all the antibody tests and hospital data and a few other nuggets. Quote Finally, the University of Miami did an antibody study in South Florida and found the rate of infection at 16x known cases, driving down the death rate massively in South Florida as well. Quote University of Miami (FL) has concluded its preliminary COVID-19 study, which found ~165,000 Miami-Dade residents (or 6%) had antibodies, nearly 16x the number of cases reported by the state health department. This puts the fatality rate at ~0.14% there. Quote Italy, which presently has the largest coronavirus outbreak in the world, is now publishing details on who is dying in their country. 97% of deaths are in those 60+. I’m surprised more focus right now isn’t on telling seniors to self-quarantine. Quote Massachusetts data on coronavirus deaths in the state: average age of death 81 years old, 97.5% had underlying health conditions Quote Presently 10,746 people have died in New York City of the coronavirus. Of that number only 66, 66!, didn’t have pre-existing health conditions. That means 99.4% of New York City deaths had underlying health conditions. What are underlying health conditions according to the city? (“Underlying illnesses include Diabetes, Lung Disease, Cancer, Immunodeficiency, Heart Disease, Hypertension, Asthma, Kidney Disease, GI/Liver Disease, and Obesity.” So cancer is considered an underlying illness for the coronavirus. That’s interesting when it comes to considering whether the coronavirus death rate might even be exaggerated as well, but that’s a discussion for another time.) In the meantime, how about the ages of the deceased? Just four people in New York City have died of the coronavirus if they are 17 or under. That’s such a tiny percentage: .00037% to be exact, that it’s likely those four people, if they were autopsied, may well have had something else wrong with their health to cause their death. But regardless, young people dying of the coronavirus, despite how these stories may spread virally on social media, are outliers. (Based on the data people 17 and under are FAR more likely to do of the flu every year than they are the coronavirus.) It doesn’t stop there either. Do you know how many people under the age of 44 have died of the coronavirus in New York City? 378 people. That’s .35% of the total deaths in the city. So 99.65% of the people dying of the coronavirus in New York City, the hardest hit place in the entire United States, are 45 years old or older. (Remember, this doesn’t even include all the people of these ages who get the coronavirus and are either asymptomatic or never have any health issues that require hospitalization at all. This means 99.65% of those people 44 years and younger who actually get the coronavirus — which the above data from these five cities tell us is a tiny percentage of the overall people who get this virus — are perfectly fine.) These numbers are just crazy. That data is actually data compiled by the hospitals....That isn't an antibody test or some study, this is actual hard data. If politicians namely Democrats are hell bent on going by the science and data, then they have to begin relaxing their shut downs and going about it in a much more targeted maner. Every single passing day, Sweden's policy appears to have gotten it right. They are beginning to look like geniuses. 1 3
Chef Jim Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, BillStime said: 53,000 Americans are dead. In the coming days, we will pass milestones of deaths in the Vietnam War and Trump’s 60,000 prediction. At some point, Trump and our federal government are going to need to bring in competent experts and actually come up with a plan and do something! And I knew this reminded me of someone. Edited April 25, 2020 by Chef Jim 1
keepthefaith Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 1 hour ago, BillStime said: 53,000 Americans are dead. In the coming days, we will pass milestones of deaths in the Vietnam War and Trump’s 60,000 prediction. At some point, Trump and our federal government are going to need to bring in competent experts and actually come up with a plan and do something! Do something? Such as?
Deranged Rhino Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: Do something? Such as? I don't know, perhaps orchestrate and attempt to execute a backdoor coup using the CIA, DOJ, FBI, and the establishment press as political weapons? Because if he did that, we'd know people like Billsztime would be fully supportive -- just as they've been for 44 who actually did those things. 3
CommonCents Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 25 minutes ago, Magox said: The data that is coming out is overwhelming and it's pointing to the CoronaVirus having a much much lower mortality rate than what everyone feared. I would highly recommend that you guys read that article. It goes into all the antibody tests and hospital data and a few other nuggets. These numbers are just crazy. That data is actually data compiled by the hospitals....That isn't an antibody test or some study, this is actual hard data. If politicians namely Democrats are hell bent on going by the science and data, then they have to begin relaxing their shut downs and going about it in a much more targeted maner. Every single passing day, Sweden's policy appears to have gotten it right. They are beginning to look like geniuses. I don’t think they look like geniuses. I’d venture a strong guess that they don’t have a political divide like this country. Playing politics while trying to construct policy always works out well....
B-Man Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: I don't know, perhaps orchestrate and attempt to execute a backdoor coup using the CIA, DOJ, FBI, and the establishment press as political weapons? Because if he did that, we'd know people like Billsztime would be fully supportive -- just as they've been for 44 who actually did those things. Well, 7 Days in May IS coming up. Douglas, Lancaster, March ...............Can't beat it. . 1
Deranged Rhino Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, B-Man said: Well, 7 Days in May IS coming up. Douglas, Lancaster, March ...............Can't beat it. . In grad school I had to do a presentation on that film and the Manchurian Candidate (both Frankenheimer films). If I could do those two presentations over again today, with what I know now, oooooh boy. 1
Magox Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, CommonCents said: I don’t think they look like geniuses. I’d venture a strong guess that they don’t have a political divide like this country. Playing politics while trying to construct policy always works out well.... Im not sure what you are trying to say but what I was speaking to is that they look like geniuses compared to the rest of the world. They didn’t have to restrict their lives and suffer quite as bad of an economic downturn as everyone else. And they did the logical thing, which was try to protect the most at risk while allowing others to go on about life with social distancing measures.
CommonCents Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Magox said: Im not sure what you are trying to say but what I was speaking to is that they look like geniuses compared to the rest of the world. They didn’t have to restrict their lives and suffer quite as bad of an economic downturn as everyone else. And they did the logical thing, which was try to protect the most at risk while allowing others to go on about life with social distancing measures. I was wondering outloud if it’s easier to make decisions and follow data instead of try and dampen panic while constructing new guidelines during an unplanned event. 1
BillStime Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 13 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: I don't know, perhaps orchestrate and attempt to execute a backdoor coup using the CIA, DOJ, FBI, and the establishment press as political weapons? The nice thing about message boards? Going back months and months in the same thread hearing the same threats and conspiracies from you. And here we are - still waiting. 1
Deranged Rhino Posted April 25, 2020 Posted April 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, BillStime said: The nice thing about message boards? Going back months and months in the same thread hearing the same threats and conspiracies from you. And here we are - still waiting. In that time, the evidence for my case has grown exponentially stronger, while the counter argument of many has all but been destroyed. This is objectively undeniable. Keep thinking nothing's coming. You've been wrong about everything for years, why buck that trend now? 2
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