The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19

[oldmanfan]

Just now, Deranged Rhino said:

 

And yet you've spent hours going out of your way to misquote him today. 

 

 

Nope.  Dream on.  You are the one who goes on and on about him using imprecise words and that apparently you alone have the divine  guidance to discern his true meaning.

[SectionC3]

13 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

You just keep proving you're a victim of the media spin, rather than an honest observer of events. Trump said he hoped to be open by Easter, because it would be a powerful image considering the holiday itself. That's miles away from the implication you're making. 

Fake news.  That’s why you’re on the fake news list. 

Just now, oldmanfan said:

Nope.  Dream on.  You are the one who goes on and on about him using imprecise words and that apparently you alone have the divine  guidance to discern his true meaning.

That’s why deranged rhino is on the fake news and hoax lists.  You nailed it. 

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, oldmanfan said:

Nope.  Dream on.  You are the one who goes on and on about him using imprecise words and that apparently you alone have the divine  guidance to discern his true meaning.

 

Not me alone. Anyone who's honestly listening and not a victim of media spin. 

[SectionC3]

9 minutes ago, CommonCents said:

You weren’t in the discussion when thing first broke out so I will repeat. The Friday after the NBA thing happened and this all became real a doctor from BMC did an interview saying they were giving it to anyone even suspected of having it upon arrival. The doctor could barely contain her smile. It’s probably the closest thing I have seen to a smile in the past 5 weeks. 

 

Is.  It.  Worth. The.  Risk.  
 

and, if doctors at a place like BU are worthy of deference, shouldn’t we also defer to docs at similarly esteemed locations who aren’t prescribing the drug as wantonly as is done at BU?

1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Not me alone. Anyone who's honestly listening and not a victim of media spin. 

Hoax.  

[Deranged Rhino]

  

 

 

 

And it's getting better: 

 

[oldmanfan]

Just now, Buffalo_Gal said:

So, what do you say to the people who are sick now and can benefit from the treatment? I do appreciate the response, and I understand the desire for trials (and I do not disagree with that). However, it is probably not something someone worried about dying today is willing to volunteer to wait on.



 

I work in Reproductive medicine and of course that is nothing like the life and death of the viral pandemic.  I can tell you what we do when we have patients where they have a poor prognosis or where we don’t have decent treatment options.  We are honest about things.  If we are going to use a treatment empirically we are very clear on that.  If we think a treatment has a 1% chance of success say, we say that.

 

This crisis is horrifically difficult for all involved, patients, caregivers, everyone.  That is why I said above I get why the drug is being prescribed for compassionate care.  If it were me I would just be very clear to patients that it’s being done without real data on it.  Again it’s different but I’ve seen patients in my field told by other practitioners treatment X guaranteed things would work, when based on their situation it never had s chance.  And I’ve seen the devastation when we have to tell them.

[SectionC3]

19 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

There is a reason he uses so many qualifiers... could, maybe, possibly, and it is not because we have an honest media. 


 

Or it’s because he’s BSing.  Either one.  

[Foxx]

OMG!!! a Cuomo must have been channeling Trump!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

https://twitter.com/ByronYork/status/1253750384604176385

 

 

cue all the upcoming,

 

too ***** funny!

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said:

  

 

 

 

And it's getting better: 

 

They can both leave. ?

 

[CommonCents]

2 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Is.  It.  Worth. The.  Risk.  
 

and, if doctors at a place like BU are worthy of deference, shouldn’t we also defer to docs at similarly esteemed locations who aren’t prescribing the drug as wantonly as is done at BU?

Hoax.  

I don’t remember saying we should do anything. I live 30 minutes away, I have seen/heard amazing stories from Boston hospitals over the years. I’d put MY life in their hands if I had to. I don’t care what “we” do, people are feee to refuse treatments or seek them out as they should be. 

 

If I need to deal with the pompous Bostonian attitudes for my entirety I’m damn sure going to take advantage of the one good thing, the hospitals oh yah and Fenway Park. 

[Buffalo_Gal]

Trump up

[oldmanfan]

6 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Not me alone. Anyone who's honestly listening and not a victim of media spin. 

Let’s try this one more time.  I listened to everything said yesterday and formed my own  opinion. Again, I LISTENED TO EVERY WORD.  How exactly is that media spin.

 

The person spinning is you.

[Buffalo_Gal]

Trump:
Reading off the numbers.
 

Edited April 24, 2020 by Buffalo_Gal

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, oldmanfan said:

Let’s try this one more time.  I listened to everything said yesterday and formed my own  opinion. Again, I LISTENED TO EVERY WORD.  How exactly is that media spin.

 

The person spinning is you.

 

And yet you started out by saying he told people to inject themselves with bleach -- while leaving out that he was asking a doctor the question. 

[Buffalo_Gal]

Trump:
Half of all Americans live in states that have taken steps to reopen parts of their economy.

 

Edited April 24, 2020 by Buffalo_Gal

[oldmanfan]

1 minute ago, CommonCents said:

I don’t remember saying we should do anything. I live 30 minutes away, I have seen/heard amazing stories from Boston hospitals over the years. I’d put MY life in their hands if I had to. I don’t care what “we” do, people are feee to refuse treatments or seek them out as they should be. 

 

If I need to deal with the pompous Bostonian attitudes for my entirety I’m damn sure going to take advantage of the one good thing, the hospitals oh yah and Fenway Park. 

Well thank God you didn’t include the Cheatriots.

Just now, Deranged Rhino said:

 

And yet you started out by saying he told people to inject themselves with bleach -- while leaving out that he was asking a doctor the question. 

I said people might interpret it that way.  Keep spinning though.

[Tiberius]

It's the Comedy Hour! Trump reading a statement where he's suppose to  sound so sincere.?

3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Trump up

?

[Deranged Rhino]

1 minute ago, oldmanfan said:

I said people might interpret it that way.  Keep spinning though.

 

Which, literally, the media was doing. And you were parroting them whether you realize it or not. And in doing so, you've allowed yourself to get swept up into arguing against what he never even suggested in the first place. 

[Buffalo_Gal]

Trump:

Happy talk about what he hopes for the economy once we reopen.
Talking about the paycheck protection program.
Mentioned how poorly hospitals are doing (the elective surgeries, in areas that have not been largely impacted)
CARES act $3,304 (I think, I hope I did not transpose numbers) average sent to each family. How they are getting it... check, direct deposit,  or debit card.

 

[Tiberius]

Just now, Buffalo_Gal said:

Trump:

Happy talk about what he hopes for the economy once we reopen.
Talking about the paycheck protection program.
Mentioned how poorly hospitals are doing (the elective surgeries, in areas that have not been largely impacted)
CARES act $3,304 (I think, I hope I did not transpose numbers) average sent to each family. How they are getting it... check, direct deposit,  or debit card.

 

Ok, thanks Trumptard