The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19

[jrober38]

1 hour ago, GG said:

 

That's why you have to look at what he meant with his childish comments.  He's taking about light penetrating deeper into the skin.

 

He doesn't pull things out of thin air.  He hears a few snippets from the experts, then jumbles the topic in the PC. 

 

I don't buy this.

 

He's literally making things up, on the spot, as they come into his head. 

I assure you no medical expert has proposed the idea of disinfecting the inside of someone's lungs, or using ultraviolet light on the inside of someone's body to kill a virus.

 

What Trump said was sheer stupidity. 

[oldmanfan]

4 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

I like your takes (particularly on the football side of things); however, I think you are stretching this into something it really isn't.

I hope I'm wrong that some would actually ingest disinfectant and such, but in a crisis like this it is incumbent on the president to measure his words.  And throwing half baked ideas out there with no scientific validity is not what we need right now. 

[billsfan1959]

Just now, Tiberius said:

That's right, and he is hiding in the WH oh so desperate to win, so he can avoid conviction. Now you are getting it. 

 

Statute of limitations runs out if he wins, though. Trump and you guys, have to win to keep him out of jail. That's why we need to keep him talking, he's killing himself up there! Love it! 

 

Ahhh, it's nice for little boys to dream. Although, you really should have higher aspirations. Like, say, having the ability to differentiate internal reality from external reality and, maybe,  putting together coherent thoughts...

[Buffalo_Gal]

Just now, Scraps said:

You're one of the Trumptards who thinks this should be investigated, not me.

I am a Trumptard? ROTFLMAO Yup, sure. You clearly have not been reading my stance on this whole shutdown.

I, unlike many others here, am not so closed minded as to dismiss an idea merely because President Trump suggested scientists should look into it. ?

 

[Tiberius]

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WASHINGTON — The manufacturer of Lysol, a disinfectant spray and cleaning product, issued a statement warning against any internal use after President Donald Trump suggested that people could get an "injection" of "the disinfectant that knocks (coronavirus) out in a minute."

"As a global leader in health and hygiene products, we must be clear that under no circumstance should our disinfectant products be administered into the human body (through injection, ingestion or any other route)," a spokesperson for Reckitt Benckiser, the United Kingdom-based owner of Lysol, said in a statement to NBC News.

 

"As with all products, our disinfectant and hygiene products should only be used as intended and in line with usage guidelines. Please read the label and safety information," the statement continued, adding that the company believes it has a "responsibility in providing consumers with access to accurate, up-to-date information as advised by leading public health experts."

Lysol maker warns against internal use of disinfectants after Trump comments

A spokesperson for the cleaning product company said it had a responsibility to give accurate information to the public.

[SoCal Deek]

Just now, oldmanfan said:

I hope I'm wrong that some would actually ingest disinfectant and such, but in a crisis like this it is incumbent on the president to measure his words.  And throwing half baked ideas out there with no scientific validity is not what we need right now. 

Let's assume you are correct.  Can we revisit this after the weekend....and see how many people die from drinking bleach?  That should be a pretty easy tally.  I'll see you on Monday.

[Tiberius]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/lysol-manufacturer-warns-against-internal-use-after-trump-comments-n1191586 

[Westside]

2 minutes ago, Scraps said:

You're one of the Trumptards who thinks this should be considered, not me.

Trumptard? What are you 2 years old?

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

I am a Trumptard? ROTFLMAO Yup, sure. You clearly have not been reading my stance on this whole shutdown.

I, unlike many others here, am not so closed minded as to dismiss an idea merely because President Trump suggested scientists should look into it. ?

 

Bull *****! Don't believe this at all. Buffalo Gal is a Trump propaganda machine 

[oldmanfan]

Just now, SoCal Deek said:

Let's assume you are correct.  Can we revisit this after the weekend....and see how many people die from drinking bleach?  That should be a pretty easy tally.  I'll see you on Monday.

I hope the answer will be zero.  Can you not agree though that throwing out ideas like this do nothing to help and are irresponsible?

[The Poojer]

Just had this discussion with someone on Twitter.....sadly it seems facts don't matter these days

 

resolution is bad but basically the reply to me was "OK Boomer" which i replied that i'd be willing to discuss using facts and not calling names.

 

 

 

Edited April 24, 2020 by The Poojer

[Scraps]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

I am a Trumptard? ROTFLMAO Yup, sure. You clearly have not been reading my stance on this whole shutdown.

I, unlike many others here, am not so closed minded as to dismiss an idea merely because President Trump suggested scientists should look into it. ?

 

Your right, I haven't read your stance on the shutdown.  Your second paragraph says enough.

[Buffalo_Gal]

Just now, The Poojer said:

Just had this discussion with someone on Twitter.....sadly it seems facts don't matter these days

 

I am hoping you are not Natasha.
(Although I always loved that name. My father wanted to name me Natasha. Sadly, my mother won that argument.)


 

[The Poojer]

nope, i'm the "boomer"

 

Just now, Buffalo_Gal said:

I am hoping you are not Natasha.
(Although I always loved that name. My father wanted to name me Natasha. Sadly, my mother won that argument.)


 

[Tiberius]

4 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

Ahhh, it's nice for little boys to dream. Although, you really should have higher aspirations. Like, say, having the ability to differentiate internal reality from external reality and, maybe,  putting together coherent thoughts...

What's not reality? That Trump paid a sex provider hush money? 

 

You really thinks that's fantasy, right? 

 

How many people did Hillary murder? 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

29 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said:

 

I saw Cohen was sent home to do his time with in-home confinement.  How does that differ from all the rest of us?  

 

We should all get ‘pay it forward’ credit toward future prison sentences

I wasn't crazy about the Cohen prosecution.  I personally believe that if you allowed limitless powers of surveillance and investigation into all the creatures in Washington, 75-90% end up in cells.  Manafort should be released as well. 

 

All I know is you're my contact if I end up in the slammer and need the hooch.  You owe me that much. 

[snafu]

9 minutes ago, Scraps said:

 

Everyone says something wrong sometimes (you should have stopped there) but it is the frequency with which the press and his detractors belabor the times when  Trump says incorrect things and doesn’t give a darn about the actual news., the fact that He will never admit to being wrong about anything (true) (which it truly unique compared with the company you mentioned (not so true) and the fact that the is POTUS and everything a President says is scrutinized is what gets him in trouble. This happens to every President but it is much more pronounced with Trump because he’s not just disliked by his detractors, he’s despised and they wanted him gone on election night 2016  and every day since  

 

 

Here is what I think is more like the truth ^^^^^.

I will definitely agree that Trump is probably the worst communicator I’ve ever seen in a President. He makes his own troubles. It is his biggest flaw and the biggest issue that holds him back from easy re-election.

 

 

3 minutes ago, Scraps said:

 

So you Trumptards knew the makers of Lysol would have to warn people not to inject Lysol into people? ?

 

Did they say not to huff it?  

Thats important to me.

 

[3rdnlng]

30 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

There are chemotherapies that use toxic drugs that are encapsulated inside liposomes which are conjugated/tethered to an antibody that will target the drug payload to specific tissues.  They inject this into people.  Did Trump have this in mind when he made his comment?  Very unlikely, but it's not unheard of to inject toxic compounds into human beings in this way and something similar to this strategy could very well be under consideration by real, actual scientists.

I would assume that brainstorming sessions are not necessarily uncommon in the scientific world. Also, accidental discoveries do happen. After all we ended up with a blue diamond shaped blood pressure pill that became one of the most popular drugs ever for other reasons. Swallowing bleach certainly doesn't seem like the thing to do but there are other ways like you stated above, and even something as simple as possibly breathing it in. I know I've breathed in bleach just by using it for cleaning. I don't remember any side affects and there may very well be some benefits. 

[jrober38]

2 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

 

 

I know! I know! Let's do nothing and ask no questions so more people can die!!

When you watched the clip, the guy from homeland security said, "we are looking into it" and "we will look into it." As scientists, no stone can be left unturned when searching for a cure to a disease.

I am quite sure some of the doctors on this board can tell you about things that they layperson would consider poison when ingested, that are used in diluted/different formulas for XYZ in the medical treatments. Heck, radioactive iodine, radioactive therapy for cancer, chemo drugs are poison - and I am just some schlump thinking about it - yet all are used on the human body to "cure" some diseases.  

Maybe you all would like to think outside the box for ways to combat this virus instead of acting like our press and dismissing everything President Trump says out of hand, simply because President Trump has said them.

 

 

"We are looking into it" translates to, this idea is idiotic, but the President said it and I don't want to contradict him and risk getting fired, so I'll go with, "we're looking into it". 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

The cognitive dissonance reboot in Cooper’s brain happens after the 2:00 minute mark. ?