Deranged Rhino Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 Just now, jrober38 said: The economy collapses, people lose their houses, struggle to put food on the table, etc. ... Kind of like what happens when you lock down the country out of fear for weeks on end? The fact you can't even see your own hypocrisy should be staggering, but it's not. It's perfectly on brand for you. Just now, Doc said: Holy lack of reasoning, Batman! Not sure how you got that conclusion. Because he's completely irrational and driven by fear. 1
Doc Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 But if you think socialism is better, there are many countries from which to choose. Go there instead of trying to change this one. 3
Cinga Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, jrober38 said: Capitalism works until it doesn't. Are you really this stupid? WTF does this bulshit have to do with capitalism? 2
3rdnlng Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: The press has a lotta China money. Congress has a lot of China money. Trump ordered an investigation and calls it the virus that came from China, says how the Chinese were not forthcoming, and how China must pay a price (especially if they knowingly unleashed this). Watch the pressers. It is Trump again the "msm." The idea that China may not have knowingly unleashed the virus on the rest of the world is downright ludicrous. At the same time that China shut down all flights within China they were allowing people to fly from China to all other countries. There are no excuses for this. China deliberately allowed this virus to spread worldwide and kill 100,000's and send the world into a depression. ***** China and the dragon they rode in on. Edited April 20, 2020 by 3rdnlng 4
Doc Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 10 minutes ago, jrober38 said: Anyone seen the price of oil? Holy crap. Texas just went out of business. Real funny. You're pathetic.
snafu Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 Just now, jrober38 said: I think "the rest of the world" is hyperbole. Maybe people living in squalor in Central America, but certainly not the whole world. No, people in those countries who don’t have a defense budget but like the US to protect them are happy where they live — and like to throw shade on capitalism and the freedoms that the US permits it’s citizens to enjoy. When people in the US hear opinions like yours coming from people living in those countries, we mostly chalk it up to bitterness and lack of information. Perhaps you should go to one of those countries. You sound bitter and underinformed. 2
shoshin Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 10 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: "MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ARE ABOUT TO DIE!" * Jrobber -- just a few weeks ago... Lots of people have been wrong about lots of things with respect to this virus. I thought it was no big deal until about the night the NBA shut down. Even after that night, I would have guessed we were going to see 60 thousand dead maximum in this initial wave, which now will be low. And I thought schools would reopen 4-5 weeks after they closed. I am sure we can go back through this thread and find lots of people down-playing the impact of this even after that night. Beating the dead horse of people who have been wrong in this thread (remember the mini movement that masks were going to generate lots of armed robberies?!?!) would be a full time job. If there's something very clear about this pandemic, it's that none of us have predicted what will happen next, especially any forecast of deaths.
SoCal Deek Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, jrober38 said: The US has been one of the hardest hit countries in the world because their social programs are so horrible compared to the rest of the developed world. Literally NOBODY is reporting that.
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: The idea that China may not have knowingly unleashed the virus on the rest of the world is downright ludicrous. At the same time that China shut down all flights within China they were allowing people to fly from China to all other countries. There are no excuses for this. China deliberately allowed this virus to spread worldwide and kill 100,000's and send the world into a depression. No disagreement from me. What he said (diplomatically or not) and what he does, will be the tell.
snafu Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, jrober38 said: The economy collapses, people lose their houses, struggle to put food on the table, etc. What’s happening worldwide has nothing to do with capitalism and everything to do with STOPPING capitalism from continuing. It is an intentional recession. 2 3
Deranged Rhino Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 Just now, shoshin said: Lots of people have been wrong about lots of things with respect to this virus. I thought it was no big deal until about the night the NBA shut down. Even after that night, I would have guessed we were going to see 60 thousand dead maximum in this initial wave, which now will be low. And I thought schools would reopen 4-5 weeks after they closed. I am sure we can go back through this thread and find lots of people down-playing the impact of this even after that night. Beating the dead horse of people who have been wrong in this thread (remember the mini movement that masks were going to generate lots of armed robberies?!?!) would be a full time job. If there's something very clear about this pandemic, it's that none of us have predicted what will happen next, especially any forecast of deaths. The point, with @jrober38 specifically, is that he's always wrong. He got this wrong. He got Trump/Russia wrong. He got Trump/Ukraine wrong. He's driven purely by fear and a toxic swill of disinformation funneled into what's left of his brain by a corrupt media complex. He's had multiple opportunities to learn from his mistakes, but rather than doing so, he continually doubles down on them. Removing any doubt that he's a serious person, with any sense of reality or what's actually happening in the world on any given day. Highlighting his hysteria is a public service to those who might be feeling similar to him. It's intent is to show them how fear makes you stupid. And stupid people do stupid things. Which, in a pandemic, is how you end up dead. 1
Chef Jim Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 31 minutes ago, jrober38 said: I can't. One side says stay home for another 4-8 weeks and numerous lives will be saved. The other wants to put lives in danger because they're bored. Once people are dead they're dead. This is literally life and death for a lot of people, like yourself. If you think people want to go back to work because they are bored you have no business even being a part of this discussion. 4 1
GG Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 20 minutes ago, jrober38 said: The US has been one of the hardest hit countries in the world because their social programs are so horrible compared to the rest of the developed world. This is what you get when you have a government that's more interested in corporate bailouts and corporate tax rate cuts than they are about protecting their citizens. This is some serious deranged stuff. 3
Hedge Posted April 20, 2020 Author Posted April 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, snafu said: No, people in those countries who don’t have a defense budget but like the US to protect them are happy where they live — and like to throw shade on capitalism and the freedoms that the US permits it’s citizens to enjoy. When people in the US hear opinions like yours coming from people living in those countries, we mostly chalk it up to bitterness and lack of information. Perhaps you should go to one of those countries. You sound bitter and underinformed. @jrober38 do I recall correctly that you are Canadian? 1
Magox Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, shoshin said: Lots of people have been wrong about lots of things with respect to this virus. I thought it was no big deal until about the night the NBA shut down. Even after that night, I would have guessed we were going to see 60 thousand dead maximum in this initial wave, which now will be low. And I thought schools would reopen 4-5 weeks after they closed. I am sure we can go back through this thread and find lots of people down-playing the impact of this even after that night. Beating the dead horse of people who have been wrong in this thread (remember the mini movement that masks were going to generate lots of armed robberies?!?!) would be a full time job. If there's something very clear about this pandemic, it's that none of us have predicted what will happen next, especially any forecast of deaths. I early on said the mortality rates would be in between .25 to .5% when everywhere i was reading was saying between 2-4%. - Evidence is beginning to suggest this is the case. I also said early on that when the media and lots of other people said that Florida and the rest of the other non stay-at-home states was going to get hit really bad because they didn't do the stay-at-home orders was not going to end up being the case. Evidence is suggesting this to be the case. I also said that the ventilator shortages that the media and some of the governors would never come about. Evidence has proven this to be the case. I'm also going to say that the supposed testing issues is a red herring and is being promoted by governors who are deathly afraid to make the decision to gradually open up their economies and are going on the record as this being an issue so that if there does end up being any outbreaks, it will be used against the Federal Government. Testing is just a component of a broader mosaic to help mitigate future outbreaks. It's nowhere near the end-all-be-all that the governors/partisans politicians and media are making it out to be, as Dr. Fauci has said on a number of times. We'll see whether or not this last one ends up being the case. 1 1 4
Teddy KGB Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 23 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Serious question... is there ANYTHING you are actually informed about? Any single topic? his never ending Josh Allen sucks rants are hot ???? ??♂️??♂️ 3
jrober38 Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hedge said: @jrober38 do I recall correctly that you are Canadian? Yup. Got my $4000 emergency relief payment in 2 days.
/dev/null Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 1 minute ago, jrober38 said: Yup. Got my $4000 emergency relief payment in 2 days. Did they send it to you in American dollars, Canadian dollars, or poutine? 1
jrober38 Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 Just now, /dev/null said: Did they send it to you in American dollars, Canadian dollars, or poutine? Maple syrup. 2
meazza Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, jrober38 said: Yup. Got my $4000 emergency relief payment in 2 days. $4000? Why? I thought it was $2000.
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