JetsFan20 Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, fansince88 said: As a New Yorker I have to say this map is skewed. If you look at the NY map you see orange. If you separate NNY from the city it is more light blue I think that’s the issue right now governors are dealing with in regards to reopening a. Big states like PA and NY where the hotspots are isolated to the major cities makes things complicated. 1
fansince88 Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 Just now, JetsFan20 said: I think that’s the issue right now governors are dealing with in regards to reopening a. Big states like PA and NY where the hotspots are isolated to the major cities makes things complicated. Yes. For example I live right next door and work in the largest county in NY. St Lawerance County. Some 104 cases and 1 death. The healed are upwards of I think about 75 and 5 were hospitalized total so far. That county along with Jeefferson and Lewis should be working. We will suffer because of NYC. It is really sad. Would love to see them filter it through this states local officials.
shoshin Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, JetsFan20 said: I think that’s the issue right now governors are dealing with in regards to reopening a. Big states like PA and NY where the hotspots are isolated to the major cities makes things complicated. Philly isn’t a hotspot. Can’t even come close to comparing it to NY. NYC Metro is a zone unto itself in this. The closest cities are New Orleans and Detroit and they are not in the same galaxy. To the extent govs have to be more careful with reopening urban areas, they can easily be lagging behind rural counties on phased openings. Edited April 17, 2020 by shoshin
SoCal Deek Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 2 hours ago, shoshin said: Philly isn’t a hotspot. Can’t even come close to comparing it to NY. NYC Metro is a zone unto itself in this. The State of Pennsylvania sits at ‘only’ 46 deaths per million. Whereas New York State sits at 513 deaths per million. I assume Philadelphia’s number is higher and the rest of the state is bringing down the average but I’d think not to that great of an extent. For some reason the virus doesn’t appear to have spread into Philly.
Foxx Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 14 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Elective surgeries resuming cannot come soon enough. A lot of hospitals are getting ready to lay off staff (if they have not already started). but... i thought they were overwhelmed?
Foxx Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 from the Michigan rally. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b6GvszlkR0&feature=emb_logo 4
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 3 hours ago, fansince88 said: Yes. For example I live right next door and work in the largest county in NY. St Lawerance County. Some 104 cases and 1 death. The healed are upwards of I think about 75 and 5 were hospitalized total so far. That county along with Jeefferson and Lewis should be working. We will suffer because of NYC. It is really sad. Would love to see them filter it through this states local officials. When Trump said "county by county" as part of the presser yesterday, I was hoping Cuomo was listening and took it to heart. Buffalo is nearly 400 miles away from NYC. Washington DC is closer to NYC. Heck, the North Carolina state line is just about the same distance to NYC as Buffalo is to NYC. Big state. One size has never fit all, more so at this time. 1
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 (edited) …..perhaps some good news...…….. Experimental coronavirus drug remdesivir shows promise in Chicago trial, report says By James Rogers | Fox News The experimental COVID-19 treatment remdesivir is showing promise in a Chicago clinical trial, according to the health news site STAT. STAT reported that patients in the trial experienced rapid recoveries from fever and respiratory symptoms. Nearly all patients were discharged in less than a week, it said. The news sent shares of remdesivir developer Gilead Sciences surging more than 14 percent in after-hours trading. Some 125 people with COVID-19 -- 113 with severe symptoms -- were recruited by the University of Chicago Medicine into the two Gilead Phase 3 clinical trials, according to STAT. The news site obtained a recorded video discussion of the trial results. In the video, Kathleen Mullane, the University of Chicago infectious disease specialist overseeing the remdesivir studies, said that most of the patients had already been discharged and only two had perished, according to STAT. “Partial data from an ongoing clinical trial is by definition incomplete and should never be used to draw conclusions about the safety or efficacy of a potential treatment that is under investigation," said a spokeswoman for University of Chicago Medicine, in a statement emailed to Fox News."In this case, information from an internal forum for research colleagues concerning work in progress was released without authorization. Drawing any conclusions at this point is premature and scientifically unsound.” https://www.foxnews.com/science/experimental-coronavirus-drug-remdesivir-chicago-trial-shows-promise Edited April 17, 2020 by OldTimeAFLGuy 3
shoshin Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: The State of Pennsylvania sits at ‘only’ 46 deaths per million. Whereas New York State sits at 513 deaths per million. I assume Philadelphia’s number is higher and the rest of the state is bringing down the average but I’d think not to that great of an extent. For some reason the virus doesn’t appear to have spread into Philly. Philly is at 90 deaths/1M or 170 deaths/1M depending on how you count the area. Philadelphia like many cities out west, closed early but there is also a lot less population and people don't live like they do in NYC. It's not unaffected but it is having nothing like the NYC problem. The hospitals are struggling but only a few hospitals are having capacity issues and they are working with others to transfer patients. A sobering statistic follows the trend in many states that 50% of all the PA deaths have been in nursing homes. (Story was from yesterday.) In the WSJ story last week on that topic, lots of states had that exact number, with NY being a lower outlier due to so many deaths in NYC. 22 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: …..perhaps some good news...…….. Experimental coronavirus drug remdesivir shows promise in Chicago trial, report says By James Rogers | Fox News The experimental COVID-19 treatment remdesivir is showing promise in a Chicago clinical trial, according to the health news site STAT. There has been a buzz about Remdesivir for a while. I hope they can produce it quickly if it turns out as good as this initial data. Edited April 17, 2020 by shoshin 1
Foxx Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 Calvert County, Maryland. Local health department suggests grocery store trips based on shoppers' last name 1
Justice Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Foxx said: Calvert County, Maryland. Local health department suggests grocery store trips based on shoppers' last name Yeah. I’d be changing my name to Xander.
snafu Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 16 hours ago, billsfan1959 said: Where do you stop? Do you remove every unheathy food item from society that contributes to the 750,000+ people that die of heart disease every year? Do you mandate forced eating and excercise regimens that contribute to obesity, which is an underlying issue in hundreds of thousands of deaths each year? Do you remove alcohol and drugs that contribute to 100,00 + deaths a year? Do you remove cigarettes and all other things that contribute to the 600,000+ cancer deaths each year Do you shut down the highways and take away cars that lead to thousands of deaths each year? Do we social distance forever, to stop the 35,000-50,000 that die every year from the flu, pneumonia, and respiratory infections? Do montior people 24 hours a day and remove any chance for them to harm themselves to stop the 40,000-50,000 people that commit suicide each year? etc... That was the Mike Bloomberg Mayoralty for 12 years. That plus stop and frisk. 1
snafu Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 14 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I found out today I was a victim of red tape, system issues and a local credit union that wanted the standard to be higher than the PPP required. My complaint to the CEO of the credit union has me in line for round two, but in some cases, it was a free for all, in others an orderly and excessive ckusterf$ck. It was an exhilarating, frustrating, painful and ultimately fruitless pursuit. I’m over simplifying, but indulge me...if a meteor or struck the entirety of the dem leadership while they were black-tie’ing at the Kennedy Center, I’d not be undisappointed. Plenzy in the house. Welcome back, and thanks for sharing. Some junior underwriter at Chase can’t read and royally fukked our application two days ago. I had everything submitted on that first Sunday, the 5th. Eventually some moron at the bank will see things my way, but the money is run out. 1
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 (edited) https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/coronavirus-china-announces-jump-death-toll-wuhan-china-n1186006 Nearly 1,300 people who died of the coronavirus in the Chinese city of Wuhan, where the virus was first detected, were not counted in death tolls, state media announced Friday. Officials increased the number of coronavirus deaths by 1,290, bringing the city's total to 3,869. The updated figure follows allegations from the United States that China had failed to alert the world soon enough about the onset of the virus and that their data was skewed. Beijing has dismissed claims that there has been any kind of cover-up. Still low. But there making sure there cover up looks better. Edited April 17, 2020 by Buffalo Bills Fan
BillStime Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 (edited) So Trumpian... pennies for you and me - millions for the rich. Love how the GreedOverPeople is looking out for small businesses and average Americans like Buffalo Bills fans... Over 43,000 US millionaires will get ‘stimulus’ averaging $1.6 million each Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me 10,000 times, I must be a Trump supporter Edited April 17, 2020 by BillStime
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 15 minutes ago, snafu said: Some junior underwriter at Chase can’t read and royally fukked our application two days ago. I had everything submitted on that first Sunday, the 5th. Eventually some moron at the bank will see things my way, but the money is run out. Key Bank for me. Long story short, my wife submitted her app, I submitted mine. Seems the fact that we used the same email address (our home address) brought the entire %$#@ing system down. My wife's was approved, which helps assuming they fund--they assure us they will, mine still lost in limbo. 20 phone calls, emails, promises but in the end, nothing. Credit union squeeze was diff. Exec level manager told me they tried to help many, probably too many, and were too stringent. I'm really sorry to hear about your issues Snaf, best of luck on the next go round. 1
shoshin Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 17 hours ago, billsfan1959 said: Where do you stop? Do you remove every unheathy food item from society that contributes to the 750,000+ people that die of heart disease every year? Do you mandate forced eating and excercise regimens that contribute to obesity, which is an underlying issue in hundreds of thousands of deaths each year? Do you remove alcohol and drugs that contribute to 100,00 + deaths a year? Do you remove cigarettes and all other things that contribute to the 600,000+ cancer deaths each year Do you shut down the highways and take away cars that lead to thousands of deaths each year? Do we social distance forever, to stop the 35,000-50,000 that die every year from the flu, pneumonia, and respiratory infections? Do montior people 24 hours a day and remove any chance for them to harm themselves to stop the 40,000-50,000 people that commit suicide each year? etc... 1
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, BillStime said: So Trumpian... pennies for you and me - millions for the rich. Love how the GreedOverPeople is looking out for small businesses and average Americans like Buffalo Bills fans... Over 43,000 US millionaires will get ‘stimulus’ averaging $1.6 million each Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me 10,000 times, I must be a Trump supporter You know i'm a Independent right? Hope they use common sense and not eat crap sandwiches. I think they use common sense over that. 1 minute ago, shoshin said: Great post facts based rather then opinions based.
billsfan1959 Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, shoshin said: So deaths that occur in clusters are more tragic than those that occur continually? My point is, there are a lot of deaths that occur every day in this country that are preventable. To what degree do we go to prevent them? Edited April 17, 2020 by billsfan1959
TH3 Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: You know i'm a Independent right? Hope they use common sense and not eat crap sandwiches. I think they use common sense over that. ha....look at the two posters above who couldn't get a biz loan....why....because they weren't for you...they were for the connected....and they blame it on the "dems" .....another sht sandwhich on order please!!
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