thenorthremembers Posted April 16, 2020 Posted April 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: If NYS waits until summer to reopen, there will be no NYS to reopen. If they reopen too soon there wont be one anyways. People need to start planning to take care of their own.
Justice Posted April 16, 2020 Posted April 16, 2020 1 minute ago, thenorthremembers said: If they rush back to work they either atent going to not have a life to worry about paycheck to paycheck for or they will be sitting in a hospital tent counting the months anyways. People need to start being more resourceful outside of just waiting for an unemployment check. It sucks but thats the reality of whats going on. A lot of jobs wont be there to go back to. People need to come to grips with what this thing really is and the dangers it presents. Some aren’t living in reality. Respect this thing because it needs to be respected.
thenorthremembers Posted April 16, 2020 Posted April 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, shoshin said: There is no chance, zero, that we wait 1-2-3 years for a vaccine to reopen. There is zero chance it takes 1 to 3 years to develop a vaccine. This is exactly why the FDA has the EUA process.
billsfan1959 Posted April 16, 2020 Posted April 16, 2020 Just now, Justice said: People need to come to grips with what this thing really is and the dangers it presents. Some aren’t living in reality. Respect this thing because it needs to be respected. And some need to understand the reality of an economic collapse. Some aren't living in reality 4 1
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 16, 2020 Posted April 16, 2020 Just now, thenorthremembers said: If they reopen too soon there wont be one anyways. People need to start planning to take care of their own. Do you stop driving due to accidents? Do you stop walking do to accidents? Do you stop contact with other humans due to the flu/any other viruses? Life has inherent risks. There are many people at this point who would take a risk on a virus versus starving to death, going bankrupt, hiding in their homes, etc. 6 1
thenorthremembers Posted April 16, 2020 Posted April 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Justice said: People need to come to grips with what this thing really is and the dangers it presents. Some aren’t living in reality. Respect this thing because it needs to be respected. Its low risk right now because people are staying home. But if the state opens too fast people better get use to hunting and growing vegetables again. Right now its mildly contained. It wont be if we rush back because people arent being resourceful.
billsfan1959 Posted April 16, 2020 Posted April 16, 2020 Just now, Buffalo_Gal said: Do you stop driving due to accidents? Do you stop walking do to accidents? Do you stop contact with other humans due to the flu/any other viruses? Life has inherent risks. There are many people at this point who would take a risk on a virus versus starving to death, going bankrupt, hiding in their homes, etc. Silly you. Don't you know the other 2.7 million people that die this year and every year don't really matter.... 2 1
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted April 16, 2020 Posted April 16, 2020 Just now, billsfan1959 said: And some need to understand the reality of an economic collapse. Some aren't living in reality Understand all ways. Just looking at all things.
thenorthremembers Posted April 16, 2020 Posted April 16, 2020 Just now, Buffalo_Gal said: Do you stop driving due to accidents? Do you stop walking do to accidents? Do you stop contact with other humans due to the flu/any other viruses? Life has inherent risks. There are many people at this point who would take a risk on a virus versus starving to death, going bankrupt, hiding in their homes, etc. No but I also dont walk into a house on fire or drive straight into another car because I am bored at home.
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 16, 2020 Posted April 16, 2020 Just now, thenorthremembers said: Its low risk right now because people are staying home. But if the state opens too fast people better get use to hunting and growing vegetables again. Right now its mildly contained. It wont be if we rush back because people arent being resourceful. If everyone were independently wealthy and able to stay home, most would support a stay at home order and bubble wrap into perpetually. That is not, however, reality. 2
Justice Posted April 16, 2020 Posted April 16, 2020 Just now, thenorthremembers said: Its low risk right now because people are staying home. But if the state opens too fast people better get use to hunting and growing vegetables again. Right now its mildly contained. It wont be if we rush back because people arent being resourceful. Exactly. People seem to be mending two conflicting types of strategies together and thinking that’s gonna be the outcome. “Numbers of deaths are down. Less people are getting infected. Time to go back to work”. That’s not how this works.
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 16, 2020 Posted April 16, 2020 Just now, Justice said: Exactly. People seem to be mending two conflicting types of strategies together and thinking that’s gonna be the outcome. “Numbers of deaths are down. Less people are getting infected. Time to go back to work”. That’s not how this works. How do people pay their bills? How do they feed their families? How does that work? 1
thenorthremembers Posted April 16, 2020 Posted April 16, 2020 Just now, Buffalo_Gal said: If everyone were independently wealthy and able to stay home, most would support a stay at home order and bubble wrap into perpetually. That is not, however, reality. Understood and the only way to make money is to work at the job you had before this happened? Thats what I mean about being resourceful. Life isnt the same as it waa before and people should really start to consider how to move forward if this gets worse because it will if we rush back.
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted April 16, 2020 Posted April 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: If everyone were independently wealthy and able to stay home, most would support a stay at home order and bubble wrap into perpetually. That is not, however, reality. What worries is people get too excited with government opens.. With no social distancing. Acting like a win, should still be a caution with caution with this thing still going on. 1
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 16, 2020 Posted April 16, 2020 Just now, thenorthremembers said: Understood and the only way to make money is to work at the job you had before this happened? Thats what I mean about being resourceful. Life isnt the same as it waa before and people should really start to consider how to move forward if this gets worse because it will if we rush back. What do you suggest people do for an income? How can they be resourceful in this day of lock downs and "essential" businesses? 1
Justice Posted April 16, 2020 Posted April 16, 2020 Just now, Buffalo_Gal said: How do people pay their bills? How do they feed their families? How does that work? If I had the answers to that I wouldn’t be here typing this stuff with you. It’s difficult. I know. This is where our federal government has to enter the picture and see to it nobody is made homeless or starves.
thenorthremembers Posted April 16, 2020 Posted April 16, 2020 Just now, Buffalo_Gal said: How do people pay their bills? How do they feed their families? How does that You buy some seeds and grow your food. You hunt. You live within your means. You defer your bills if you have to. You get food from pantries. You make things happen 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Gal said: What do you suggest people do for an income? How can they be resourceful in this day of lock downs and "essential" businesses? You look into social programs. You get unemployment. You get a job at a grocery store or any other store that is still open. 1 minute ago, Justice said: If I had the answers to that I wouldn’t be here typing this stuff with you. It’s difficult. I know. This is where our federal government has to enter the picture and see to it nobody is made homeless or starves. There is never a reason to starve. The problem is a lot of people in this country crumble the second they dont have things the way they want it when they want it. We are spoiled.
shoshin Posted April 16, 2020 Posted April 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: You buy some seeds and grow your food. You hunt. You live within your means. You defer your bills if you have to. You get food from pantries. You make things happen I see a lot of farming happening in East Newark. You are in a fantasyland. We are not headed to The Stand if we reopen, even if we reopen too soon. But it could be grim, that much is true.
billsfan1959 Posted April 16, 2020 Posted April 16, 2020 Just now, Justice said: If I had the answers to that I wouldn’t be here typing this stuff with you. It’s difficult. I know. This is where our federal government has to enter the picture and see to it nobody is made homeless or starves. Do you even understand how an economy works? Do you think the government can continue to dole out trillions of dollars without this turning into a a complete economic disaster, the likes of which you have never experienced? The cold hard truth is this: To avoid serious and prolonged consequences, this economy needs to begin opening up soon. 2
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