Deranged Rhino Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 1 hour ago, meazza said: I already addressed this so why do you repeat it? There are multiple clinical trials going on and this is one of them which seems to show some promising but unverified results. Of course, GarBear is wrong. Fauci said he'd ask for it if he got it. (Of course, Fauci has a financial motivation to push a vaccine over treatment -- but that's not related, I'm sure) 1
B-Man Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 Reminder: Social distancing ≠ national lockdown. People are transforming language to reinforce tyranny advocacy. Social distancing is a voluntary action that has nothing to do w fed/state mandates. Stay at home order/"non-essential" shutdown/curfew/lockdown is not social distancing. . 1
Deranged Rhino Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 11 minutes ago, Magox said: Two takeaways from Cuomo's briefer today. A) Not one single New Yorker has died from a lack of not having a ventilator. B) Anecdotally, Cuomo is hearing a lot of New York Doctors saying that the Anti Malarial drug that Trump has been talking about is working...So much so that he is going to ask Trump to send him more. This is two major points that the media loves to hound this administration about and Cuomo himself made these comments today. God, the media sucks so bad. Just to go with your point: 1 2
Magox Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 10 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Jesus. You still don't ***** get it. So you're dense, illiterate, and are incapable of communicating. I'm done with you. Go play with your pals. I have better things to do with my time than engage in a conversation with someone who can't answer the first goddamn question in that conversation. Like pulling teeth. Sorry man, but he has answered your points and you have yet to address one single point of his. You are losing this argument. Badly 5 4
Deranged Rhino Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 More reason to f the WHO and the UN. Shutter them both. 2
B-Man Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 UNEXPECTEDLY: Democrats Prep to Blame Trump for the Coronavirus Economy. 1
meazza Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Of course, GarBear is wrong. Fauci said he'd ask for it if he got it. (Of course, Fauci has a financial motivation to push a vaccine over treatment -- but that's not related, I'm sure) Vaccines are inherently cheaper to sell than medical treatments. Stop the hate on fauci.
Deranged Rhino Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 Just now, meazza said: Vaccines are inherently cheaper to sell than medical treatments. Stop the hate on fauci. I have no hate for Faucci. He's funded by Gates. That's a fact, not hate. He has a motivation to push vaccines more so than treatment.
meazza Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: I have no hate for Faucci. He's funded by Gates. That's a fact, not hate. He has a motivation to push vaccines more so than treatment. Except that vaccines are more effective since treatments don’t necessarily stop everyone from dying. I’ve listened to tons of medical professionals on this subject, a vaccine is the most effective but long term solution. Dr birx has also pushed for a vaccine. What’s her motivation?
Deranged Rhino Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 Just now, meazza said: Except that vaccines are more effective since treatments don’t necessarily stop everyone from dying. I’ve listened to tons of medical professionals on this subject, a vaccine is the most effective but long term solution. Dr birx has also pushed for a vaccine. What’s her motivation? Hey, I hear you. I do. I'm not pushing for Fauci's ouster. But color me skeptical of any Gates' plan. Guy is a bad guy. All the way. 1
meazza Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: Hey, I hear you. I do. I'm not pushing for Fauci's ouster. But color me skeptical of any Gates' plan. Guy is a bad guy. All the way. You need to step off the ledge. Any self respecting medical professional believes a vaccine is the solution because they can be given to everyone including vulnerable individuals (such as pregnant women). The science has not yet proven that any of these treatments are 100% effective which is why fauci, birx or anyone in the medical profession should caution their optimism. This is not a financial incentive. 1
Deranged Rhino Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 Just now, meazza said: You need to step off the ledge. Any self respecting medical professional believes a vaccine is the solution because they can be given to everyone including vulnerable individuals (such as pregnant women). The science has not yet proven that any of these treatments are 100% effective which is why fauci, birx or anyone in the medical profession should caution their optimism. This is not a financial incentive. I'm not close to the edge, I promise. And I agree with what you say about the treatments, that's not my argument whatsoever. Gates is a bad guy. Real bad. His connection to the push for vaccines, through Fauci, is worthy of skepticism. You can't just pretend it doesn't exist if you want to assess the situation honestly.
Doc Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 1 minute ago, meazza said: Except that vaccines are more effective since treatments don’t necessarily stop everyone from dying. I’ve listened to tons of medical professionals on this subject, a vaccine is the most effective but long term solution. Dr birx has also pushed for a vaccine. What’s her motivation? The flu vaccine is less than 50% effective, some years markedly so. And the flu has been around for centuries and keeps returning, infecting tens of millions, and killing tens of thousands. 1 4
meazza Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 Just now, Doc said: The flu vaccine is less than 50% effective, some years markedly so. And the flu has been around for centuries and keeps returning, infecting tens of millions, and killing tens of thousands. I’m aware but vaccines have been effective in effectively annihilating many diseases. The flu is tricky as it has many strains while this virus appears not to. Just now, Deranged Rhino said: Huge drop in expected bed shortage. This is based on social distancing. I would like to hear the plan once they expect everyone to go back to work.
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, meazza said: You need to step off the ledge. Any self respecting medical professional believes a vaccine is the solution because they can be given to everyone including vulnerable individuals (such as pregnant women). The science has not yet proven that any of these treatments are 100% effective which is why fauci, birx or anyone in the medical profession should caution their optimism. This is not a financial incentive. You do realize that not everyone can get a vaccine, and not all vaccines work for everyone, don't you? Saying that, I'd much, much, much rather have a vaccine for this than simply a treatment. There are a number of COVID-19 vaccines moving rapidly in the development phase, but they will take a while. Bill Gates = Bad News 1
Doc Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 1 minute ago, meazza said: I’m aware but vaccines have been effective in effectively annihilating many diseases. The flu is tricky as it has many strains while this virus appears not to. True many diseases have been effectively eradicated. But this is a novel disease which possibly could be a seasonal occurrence like flu. Hopefully not but we shall see. 1 1
Deranged Rhino Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 1 minute ago, meazza said: This is based on social distancing. I would like to hear the plan once they expect everyone to go back to work. To continue basic social distancing measures / hygiene while working would be my bet, combined with the antibody tests and quick tests. 1
meazza Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 Just now, Buffalo_Gal said: You do realize that not everyone can get a vaccine, and not all vaccines work for everyone, don't you? Saying that, I'd much, much, much rather have a vaccine for this than simply a treatment. There are a number of COVID-19 vaccines moving rapidly in the development phase, but they will take a while. Bill Gates = Bad News The majority of the population can get a vaccine. This creates the herd immunity without overflowing the health care system.
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 Just now, meazza said: The majority of the population can get a vaccine. This creates the herd immunity without overflowing the health care system. If it isn't constantly changing like the flu...
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