B-Man Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Doc said: Every so often we get a visit from JCAHO. What a worthless ***** organization that is. Every time they come they find some stupid thing to ding us on so that they can justify their worthless jobs. Now all that ***** has been thrown out the window. God Yes. Every two years we had to scramble around, and the end result was the same as you described. . ‘Less accurate than EVER’ –> Brit Hume shares tweet showing another huge University of WA COVID-19 model FAIL . 2
3rdnlng Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 32 minutes ago, TH3 said: Lord...HCQ....You know what would have saved 10's of thousands of lives and trillions in economic activity? Starting our current state of action in February instead of the end of March, having all states adhere to a common protocol...you know....having our general ***** together.....which will still have more lives and economic activity than HCQ ever will ....and yet here the nation is ....talking about HCQ like its a difference maker... Why don't you go back to claiming Trump recommended fish tank cleaner as a cure for the virus? As fvcked as that is it has more credibility than this post. 1 1
SoCal Deek Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 I recommend everyone turn off the hype driven NY centric television and go on one of the statistics driven website. You’ll find actual NUMBERS there, as opposed to drama. As an example, California, our most populace state, has only 300 deaths from this virus in well over a month. This is NOT the nation wide emergency you’re seeing play out on TV. But stock video of NYC hospitals and exhausted medical professionals are far more compelling.
Foxx Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 17 minutes ago, shoshin said: This is junk all over Twitter when I was trying to find a quote from Fauci. Craziness, though on Twitter, it went 8 layers deeper. It's like saying Trump released the virus to stop a surging Joe Biden or Bezos released it so he could have a surge in profits at Amazon and Whole Foods. 2 1
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 The talking points being released by the TDSers are even nuttier than usual the last 48 hours. Hydroxychloroquine is unproven for COVID-19 treatment! Fine, then you don't take it if you end up with COVID-19. Shesh If only there was some sort of drug that could be prescribed for TDS. And the rewriting of history to make the Chinese out to be saints, and Trump a sinner? GFY. 3
SoCal Deek Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Gary Busey said: populous Thanks Gary .....and good morning!
Doc Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 Just now, Buffalo_Gal said: The talking points being released by the TDSers are even nuttier than usual the last 48 hours. Hydroxychloroquine is unproven for COVID-19 treatment! Fine, then you don't take it if you end up with COVID-19. Shesh If only there was some sort of drug that could be prescribed for TDS. And the rewriting of history to make the Chinese out to be saints, and Trump a sinner? GFY. Get a load of this: State Democratic Representative Wants Trump in Front of The Hague for 'Crimes Against Humanity' And again, the Dems blowing Russia is like them doing the same for the terrorists Trump had killed. Pathetic.
3rdnlng Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I recommend everyone turn off the hype driven NY centric television and go on one of the statistics driven website. You’ll find actual NUMBERS there, as opposed to drama. As an example, California, our most populace state, has only 300 deaths from this virus in well over a month. This is NOT the nation wide emergency you’re seeing play out on TV. But stock video of NYC hospitals and exhausted medical professionals are far more compelling. In the meantime medical professionals are being furloughed because there's not enough "normal" medical work to do. I've been to the VA hospital 3 times in the last two weeks and it's been like a morgue. I probably rode the elevator 8 times during those visits and only once had a fellow passenger.
Warren Zevon Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: The talking points being released by the TDSers are even nuttier than usual the last 48 hours. Hydroxychloroquine is unproven for COVID-19 treatment! Does Fauci have TDS?
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Doc said: Get a load of this: State Democratic Representative Wants Trump in Front of The Hague for 'Crimes Against Humanity' And again, the Dems blowing Russia is like them doing the same for the terrorists Trump had killed. Pathetic. Nuttier than fruitcakes. 3
FreddieJizzle22 Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: The talking points being released by the TDSers are even nuttier than usual the last 48 hours. Hydroxychloroquine is unproven for COVID-19 treatment! Fine, then you don't take it if you end up with COVID-19. Shesh If only there was some sort of drug that could be prescribed for TDS. And the rewriting of history to make the Chinese out to be saints, and Trump a sinner? GFY. Thanks doctor!!!
meazza Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: Does Fauci have TDS? I already addressed this so why do you repeat it? There are multiple clinical trials going on and this is one of them which seems to show some promising but unverified results.
Warren Zevon Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 Just now, meazza said: I already addressed this so why do you repeat it? There are multiple clinical trials going on and this is one of them which seems to show some promising but unverified results. I'm not replying to you. Buffalo Gal says the talking points being released by the TDSers are even nuttier than usual the last 48 hours. Her talking point example is Hydroxychloroquine is unproven for COVID-19 treatment That talking point is echoed by Dr. Fauci. So I ask, does Dr. Fauci have a case of TDS?
SoCal Deek Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: Does Fauci have TDS? Fauci has made major mistakes along the way. He’s been behind the curve time after time. Not completely his fault or with any malicious intent but true nonetheless.
meazza Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: I'm not replying to you. Buffalo Gal says the talking points being released by the TDSers are even nuttier than usual the last 48 hours. Her talking point example is Hydroxychloroquine is unproven for COVID-19 treatment That talking point is echoed by Dr. Fauci. So I ask, does Dr. Fauci have a case of TDS? Listening to trump speak for more than ten minutes will give anyone except Sean hannity tds. 2
B-Man Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 Nobody Has Filled The Strategic PPE Stockpile Since Bush 43 Much of the MSM coverage of the novel coronavirus pandemic has boiled down to a blame game at this point. While there were some hopeful signs of cooperation for a while between federal, state and municipal governments, particularly in New York and California, we’re now seeing some governors blaming the White House, the President calling out the states and almost everyone in cable news and the major newspapers seeking to blame the Bad Orange Man for doing a Bad Job. Nowhere is this blame game more evident than in the debate over why we don’t have more ventilators, gloves, N95 masks and other personal protective medical equipment in the national strategic stockpile. The President recently blamed previous administrations, with a particular emphasis on Barack Obama, for depleting the strategic stockpile and not refilling it. This is a claim that’s been picked up by many (primarily conservative) outlets in the past week. So is it true? USA Today did a deep-diving fact check of this claim over the weekend and found that it is, but Obama isn’t the only president open to criticism here. Still, if the claim to be checked is specific to whether or not the Obama administration fulfilled its duties, they concluded that he did not. Our rating: True We rate this claim TRUE because it is supported by our research. There is no indication that the Obama administration took significant steps to replenish the supply of N95 masks in the Strategic National Stockpile after it was depleted from repeated crises. Calls for action came from experts at the time concerned for the country’s ability to respond to future serious pandemics. Such recommendations were, for whatever reason, not heeded. There’s a lot of good background on the history of the strategic national stockpile of PPE in that article and how the system fell into decay. It was established in 1999 and was used during a number of crisis periods including 9/11 and various disease outbreaks. The supplies have been used more than a dozen times since then, but there were no serious efforts to fully replenish the stockpile since it was used by the Bush administration following hurricanes Katrina and Rita in 2005. The Obama administration reported used up roughly 75 percent of N95 respirators and 25 percent of face masks during the 2009 H1N1 pandemic. The supplies were tapped again during various hurricanes beginning in 2009 as well as the 2014 ebola virus outbreak and the 2016 zika virus event. At no time was the supply replenished. Further, the storage facilities for many of the masks were not maintained properly or inspected, leading to a large number of masks being destroyed by dry rot. But as I said at the top, there’s plenty of blame to go around. George W. Bush kept tapping the supplies during his last three years in office without replenishing them. And Donald Trump had nearly two full years to address the problem after taking office, but he didn’t do it either. More at the link: . 1 1
shoshin Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, meazza said: I already addressed this so why do you repeat it? There are multiple clinical trials going on and this is one of them which seems to show some promising but unverified results. And others showing no results. This is not a political issue. It's an issue of data. Fauci has seen HCQ fail to treat other viral diseases after promising assays. He's coming at this from science. Trump on the other hand is coming at it from faith and trying to give people good news. Neither is wrong in their intent, but the idea that we have to villainize one or the other for their approach is so small right now. Fauci is not bad for being cautious in making statements about HCQ and Trump is not wrong to try to give people something to hope for. Edited April 6, 2020 by shoshin
meazza Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, shoshin said: And others showing no results. This is not a political issue. It's an issue of data. Fauci has seen HCQ fail to treat other viral diseases after promising assays. He's coming at this from science. Trump is coming at it from faith and trying to give people good news. Neither is wrong in their intent, but the idea that we have to villainize one or the other for their approach is so small. I agree. Ben Shapiro has two doctors on his podcast from Sunday who give some interesting info on some clinical trials. Worth the listen. 1
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