B-Man Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 When Can Life Return to Normal? 4 Signs to Monitor by Peter Brookes Original Article Americans can’t wait for the restrictions on their movements and interactions—widely known as social distancing—to end. That’s completely understandable. The coronavirus crisis has widely disrupted modern life. But as we learned Sunday, the Trump administration’s commonsense “stop the spread” increased mitigation strategy is with us for a while—at least till the end of April. Based on the challenges we’re facing, this is a prudent decision. While a firm date for the end of this biological battle in the United States is just unknowable at this point, it’s reasonable to ask: How will we know when we’re seeing some light at the end of the social distancing tunnel? More at the link. .
Gary M Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 Just now, Buffalo_Gal said: Given that 7,800 people died daily in the United States in 2018 (I could not find the numbers for 2019), the look-back numbers on this will be interesting. Will the number of people dying daily increase in 2020? Or will it be a matter of instead of dying from A, that person is dying from B? NYC apparently is pulling an Italy and anyone that has the disease is being labeled as dying from the virus, even if they actually died from a heart attack or some other per-existing condition (maybe assuming the per-existing condition exacerbated that condition?) The 2021 numbers will be even more telling, as this picks on ailing people. we should see a decrease in the following year(s)
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 Just now, Gary M said: The 2021 numbers will be even more telling, as this picks on ailing people. we should see a decrease in the following year(s) I wonder if deaths from vehicle will be down since less people are driving?
B-Man Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 Lakewood police break up funeral with 60-70 people, issue 15 summonses for coronavirus lockdown violations by Anthony G. Attrino Original Article Police in Ocean County on Wednesday night broke up a funeral in Lakewood and issued summonses to 15 people – including a 100-year-old man – accusing them of violating the state’s ban on public gatherings during the coronavirus pandemic, authorities said. The funeral marked the fourth consecutive day police have been called to gatherings in Lakewood in violation of the emergency order set in place in March to slow the spread of the coronavirus. Previous incidents have included a bar mitzvah, an engagement party and a religious school for adults that continued to operate. . 1
IDBillzFan Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 Just now, Buffalo_Gal said: Given that 7,800 people died daily in the United States in 2018 (I could not find the numbers for 2019), the look-back numbers on this will be interesting. Will the number of people dying daily increase in 2020? Or will it be a matter of instead of dying from A, that person is dying from B? NYC apparently is pulling an Italy and anyone that has the disease is being labeled as dying from the virus, even if they actually died from a heart attack or some other per-existing condition (maybe assuming the per-existing condition exacerbated that condition?) I think you are correct with your last point: if you were already sick, but stable, and then got the virus and died from complications, that becomes a Covid death, which I think makes sense. Frankly I desperately wish media would chill every time a new number comes up. But, unfortunately, y'know, the boys in the newsroom got a running bet. 1
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) Here's why the coronavirus may be killing more men than women. The US should take note By Katie Polglase, Gianluca Mezzofiore and Max Foster, CNN Updated 5:32 PM ET, Tue March 24, 2020 (CNN)Smoking, drinking, general poor health: Researchers say these are some of the factors that could explain why more men seem to be dying from coronavirus than women. In countries such as Italy, men represent nearly 60% of people who tested positive for the virus and more than 70% of those who have died, according to the country's National Health Institute (ISS). Even in countries like South Korea, where the proportion of women who have tested positive for the virus is higher than that of men, about 54% of the reported deaths are among men. But while health officials are starting to take note of these staggering numbers, the United States is not releasing the basic nationwide data that is crucial to understanding who is most vulnerable to the virus, according to a CNN analysis. Dr. Deborah Birx, the White House's coronavirus response coordinator, said at a White House press briefing on Friday: "From Italy we're seeing another concerning trend. That the mortality in males seems to be twice in every age group of females." Every hotspot has 'its own curve': How coronavirus cases are growing around the United States Regarding this data on Italy, Birx said in an interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer: "Just having the knowledge of that helps us in the United States so we can be very specific in talking to the American people about who to protect and how to protect them." close dialog Get coronavirus updates delivered to your inbox daily. Accurate information you can trust from CNN. Email Address Sign Up No, thanks. By subscribing, you agree to our Privacy Policy CNN has reached out to Birx for additional comment. When CNN asked the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for data split by sex for US cases of coronavirus and deaths by coronavirus, known as sex-disaggregated data, the CDC did not respond. Comprehensive data about those who have gotten sick could help inform more effective responses to the crisis. But public health researchers say that when governments such as the United States either don't collect, or don't publish their data, it's impossible for experts to gain an accurate sense of what's going on. Data divided by sex In collaboration with Global Health 50/50, a research institute examining gender inequality in global health, CNN analyzed the publicly available data from 20 countries with the highest number of confirmed cases of Covid-19 at the time of data collection -- March 20. The aim was to see why men seem to be dying more than women. But across the countries for which we have data - spanning nearly a quarter of the world's population - we found that men were 50% more likely than women to die after being diagnosed with Covid-19. "When we look at the data what we're seeing is that in every country with sex-disaggregated data ... there is between a 10% and 90% higher rate of mortality amongst people diagnosed with Covid if they are men compared to if they are women," says Sarah Hawkes, professor of global public health at University College London (UCL) and co-director of Global Health 50/50. Just sharing more info. But wouldn't count out risk to girls or for them being safe. More great info in article. But don't take this for sure. https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/24/health/coronavirus-gender-mortality-intl/index.html Edited April 2, 2020 by Buffalo Bills Fan 1
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3rdnlng Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, B-Man said: Lakewood police break up funeral with 60-70 people, issue 15 summonses for coronavirus lockdown violations by Anthony G. Attrino Original Article Police in Ocean County on Wednesday night broke up a funeral in Lakewood and issued summonses to 15 people – including a 100-year-old man – accusing them of violating the state’s ban on public gatherings during the coronavirus pandemic, authorities said. The funeral marked the fourth consecutive day police have been called to gatherings in Lakewood in violation of the emergency order set in place in March to slow the spread of the coronavirus. Previous incidents have included a bar mitzvah, an engagement party and a religious school for adults that continued to operate. . Have you ever been to Lakewood, NJ? It is highly occupied by Hasidic Jews with dedicated schools and numerous temples. 1
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 22 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: Smoking, drinking, general poor health
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said: Jesus the last guy in picture freaks me out lol.
shoshin Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 1 hour ago, ScotSHO said: And there it is. Privacy people vs sensible people. In fact, not what I said. It's sensible vs insensible. The people who comply with tracking will help everyone. The people who won't comply with tracking will not, whether they are just being CV-party-hard ***** or whether they are being right to privacy flag-bearers. Both groups will not help if we need to track down recent contacts after a positive test in a central database. 1 hour ago, ScotSHO said: This just in too - you can carry the virus, yet have the antibodies too. You're catching up! It's out there, critical to rapid testing, and not the "magical" test you thought it was.
Deranged Rhino Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 1 minute ago, shoshin said: In fact, not what I said. It's sensible vs insensible. The people who comply with tracking will help everyone. The people who won't comply with tracking will not, whether they are just being CV-party-hard ***** or whether they are being right to privacy flag-bearers. Both groups will not help if we need to track down recent contacts after a positive test in a central database. Hard pass. Hard. Privacy isn’t a flag to be waved. It’s an innate civil liberty which has already been under assault. Using this crisis as an excuse to chip away more of it only proves you learned nothing from 2001. Nothing. You’ll get shooting in the streets before you get the majority of Americans to agree to anything as draconian as what you’re suggesting or what Germany tried. 2 1
Westside Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 4 hours ago, Gary Busey said: Sometimes the propaganda network brings on the wrong guest Only a idiot would compare South Korea to the United states. Apples to oranges, but I'm sure the good dr knew that.? 2
3rdnlng Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/24/health/coronavirus-gender-mortality-intl/index.html Here's why the coronavirus may be killing more men than women. The US should take note By Katie Polglase, Gianluca Mezzofiore and Max Foster, CNN Updated 5:32 PM ET, Tue March 24, 2020 (CNN)Smoking, drinking, general poor health: Researchers say these are some of the factors that could explain why more men seem to be dying from coronavirus than women. In countries such as Italy, men represent nearly 60% of people who tested positive for the virus and more than 70% of those who have died, according to the country's National Health Institute (ISS). Even in countries like South Korea, where the proportion of women who have tested positive for the virus is higher than that of men, about 54% of the reported deaths are among men. But while health officials are starting to take note of these staggering numbers, the United States is not releasing the basic nationwide data that is crucial to understanding who is most vulnerable to the virus, according to a CNN analysis. Dr. Deborah Birx, the White House's coronavirus response coordinator, said at a White House press briefing on Friday: "From Italy we're seeing another concerning trend. That the mortality in males seems to be twice in every age group of females." Every hotspot has 'its own curve': How coronavirus cases are growing around the United States Regarding this data on Italy, Birx said in an interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer: "Just having the knowledge of that helps us in the United States so we can be very specific in talking to the American people about who to protect and how to protect them." close dialog Get coronavirus updates delivered to your inbox daily. Accurate information you can trust from CNN. Email Address Sign Up No, thanks. By subscribing, you agree to our Privacy Policy CNN has reached out to Birx for additional comment. When CNN asked the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for data split by sex for US cases of coronavirus and deaths by coronavirus, known as sex-disaggregated data, the CDC did not respond. Comprehensive data about those who have gotten sick could help inform more effective responses to the crisis. But public health researchers say that when governments such as the United States either don't collect, or don't publish their data, it's impossible for experts to gain an accurate sense of what's going on. Data divided by sex In collaboration with Global Health 50/50, a research institute examining gender inequality in global health, CNN analyzed the publicly available data from 20 countries with the highest number of confirmed cases of Covid-19 at the time of data collection -- March 20. The aim was to see why men seem to be dying more than women. But across the countries for which we have data - spanning nearly a quarter of the world's population - we found that men were 50% more likely than women to die after being diagnosed with Covid-19. "When we look at the data what we're seeing is that in every country with sex-disaggregated data ... there is between a 10% and 90% higher rate of mortality amongst people diagnosed with Covid if they are men compared to if they are women," says Sarah Hawkes, professor of global public health at University College London (UCL) and co-director of Global Health 50/50. Just sharing more info. But wouldn't count out risk to girls or for them being safe. More great info in article. But don't take this for sure. In an effort to be fair we must do something about this uneven infection/death between women and men. Reducing the infections in men to more favorably match up with the rate of infections in women seems nearly impossible. The 70% number intrigues me. If I remember correctly, women make on average a salary of 70% of what men make when comparing apples to apples. I suggest in order to make this situation fair that we take any woman who is making as much as a man on average and put them in a pool. Out of that pool we draw straws for those woman who will be forcibly infected with the coronavirus until we get enough to even out the infections between males and females. This program is in its infancy stages and we've yet to permanently give it a name. We're calling it the "Get Sick As A Dick" initiative until a better name can be found. Hopefully this will make women feel more like a partner in the battle against this disease.
B-Man Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 What other president would be utilizing the private sector this much ? TEAM USA: 50 companies join Trump’s war on coronavirus. 2
Warren Zevon Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: You’ll get shooting in the streets You just can't wait to see American blood on American streets. Disgusting 2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: In an effort to be fair we must do something about this uneven infection/death between women and men. Reducing the infections in men to more favorably match up with the rate of infections in women seems nearly impossible. The 70% number intrigues me. If I remember correctly, women make on average a salary of 70% of what men make when comparing apples to apples. I suggest in order to make this situation fair that we take any woman who is making as much as a man on average and put them in a pool. Out of that pool we draw straws for those woman who will be forcibly infected with the coronavirus until we get enough to even out the infections between males and females. This program is in its infancy stages and we've yet to permanently give it a name. We're calling it the "Get Sick As A Dick" initiative until a better name can be found. Hopefully this will make women feel more like a partner in the battle against this disease. 3th thing is still upset he's not a victim. One day he will be
3rdnlng Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Gary Busey said: You just can't wait to see American blood on American streets. Disgusting You got the wrong guy there, Peaches. You're describing Tiberius. 3
Warren Zevon Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 Just now, 3rdnlng said: You got the wrong guy there, Peaches. You're describing Tiberius. Tibs is a vet who has proudly served his country. You're a clown on TBD. 2
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