SoCal Deek Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Gary Busey said: Who lost? I'm talking about winning president Trump's own team he put together to investigate voter fraud by illegals and dead people. Ha! Commission? Now I got it. Darn English language. Go back and read your post. You’ll understand why I went where I did.
Foxx Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Consciousness leaking, again. Edited March 30, 2020 by Foxx 2
meazza Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, TPS said: It seems to be a cult with Trump. When people are unable to criticize him objectively, it's a bit difficult to have any kind of debate. I'll try to refrain though... It’s not just with trump or his supporters. 3 1
SoCal Deek Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Gary Busey said: ? Your post reads like HE was the one who committed voter fraud. 1
Foxx Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, TPS said: It seems to be a cult with Trump. When people are unable to criticize him objectively, it's a bit difficult to have any kind of debate. I'll try to refrain though... lol. so... in your submission post, you act partisan. mmm kay. Edited March 30, 2020 by Foxx 1
meazza Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, Foxx said: lol. so... in your submission post, you act partisan. mmm kay. Exactly
3rdnlng Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) 37 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: They never do, Bob. For instance, the 2.8 million people that died in this country last year didn't contribute to the economy this year. That's generally how it works. Their democrat votes counted though. Edited March 30, 2020 by 3rdnlng 1
B-Man Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 CDC launches online COVID-19 symptom checker. It’s here. Trump calls Pelosi a ‘sick puppy’ over coronavirus criticism. and this connects with the silly "cult", "can't criticize him" B.S. We lived thru the gentleman response of GWB, Trump responds to criticism and it is appreciated. If I read a legitimate point here about what the President has done or needs to do, I will certainly acknowledge it, as would most of the posters here. But the daily hourly half-truths, slander and outright lies DO NOT count as points for honest discussion............sorry. Germany will issue coronavirus antibody certificates to allow quarantined to re-enter society: Researchers to test thousands for immunity as Berlin plans exit strategy for pandemic lock down. . 1 4
Bob in Mich Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 27 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: Get back to first world level hospital care? I swear, sometimes I don't understand what keeps people like you from building a raft and making a break to the first-world shores of Venezuela. You are SO miserable in this country. Maybe a trip to a real schitthole is in order for you when this is over. "we get back to a first world level of hospital care....after the initial wave passes in the hotspots. " RIF Work on your comprehension. Maybe you could stress less if you didn't assume you were the only thinking person. If a hospital gets overwhelmed, treatment is no longer what I would call first world hospital care. If there are sufficient healthy employees and equipment of course we have first world level of care in the US.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 2 hours ago, mannc said: How irresponsible to suggest that it might not be necessary to quarantine 330 million people indefinitely. I've said it since day one: The cure is worse than the disease. The shamers are predictable however. "YOU'RE CHOOSING THE STOCK MARKET OVER LIVES!!" 4
Westside Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said: "we get back to a first world level of hospital care....after the initial wave passes in the hotspots. " RIF Work on your comprehension. Maybe you could stress less if you didn't assume you were the only thinking person. If a hospital gets overwhelmed, treatment is no longer what I would call first world hospital care. If there are sufficient healthy employees and equipment of course we have first world level of care in the US. The answer is simple. Give them weed, that cures everything right bob? 1
mannc Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) 40 minutes ago, TPS said: Yes, I agree, when testing is rolled out on a significant scale in any country, you don't know if the number of new cases is due to the ramping up of testing or not. However... The data JH uses is based on the number of days since the first 100 cases, which is a decent measure (there is no perfect measure yet) because testing started out a such a low rate in most countries, and most of those early cases are (most likely) associated with hospitalizations. Using that assumption shows the US is 10 days behind Italy. It is also consistent with using the number of days each country experienced their first 100 deaths (probably a better measure), which is around March 4th for Italy and around the 17th for the US. So, yes, when widespread testing starts, it influences the number of new cases, which is why it's more accurate (not perfect) to use the "first 100 metrics." I agree that using "first to 100 deaths" is a more meaningful measurement, but there are such a massive number of variables involved that even that number doesn't mean much. You would need to know where the deaths occurred, the ages of the victims, the existence of pre-existing medical conditions, etc. And the US is such a huge place that I think it's impossible to make any valid generalizations about how far "behind" or ahead we are as a country. I'm not saying you are doing this, but this sort of metric is being used to cause alarm and panic and to seed the ground for largely unnecessary "emergency measures". I'll make a future prediction, but it doesn't have much to do with the virus itself: By Easter, the real costs of shutting down the world economy are going to start to become clearer and harder to ignore, and there is going to be a reckoning. As one of the few politicians to even recognize this side of the equation, Trump will be one of the few who come out of this in better shape than when this started. Edited March 30, 2020 by mannc
meazza Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: I've said it since day one: The cure is worse than the disease. The shamers are predictable however. "YOU'RE CHOOSING THE STOCK MARKET OVER LIVES!!" So then why did Trump extend the guidelines until end of April? 1
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 43 minutes ago, jrober38 said: The Trump administration shipped almost 18 TONS of PPE to China in early February. Question is: What did those...people... do with all that stuff?
Tiberius Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 Arrest her! TECHNOLOGY Twitter: Laura Ingraham tweet broke rules against coronavirus misinformation Ingraham tweeted praise for hydroxychloroquine, an anti-malaria drug championed by the president as a potential treatment for the virus. Fox News host Laura Ingraham. | Mark J. Terrill, File/AP Photo By CRISTIANO LIMA 03/30/2020 02:08 PM EDT Facebook Twitter Link More Fox News host Laura Ingraham has deleted a tweet touting an unproven coronavirus treatment that a Twitter spokesperson said today ran afoul of its rules against misleading health information. Ingraham earlier this month tweeted praise for hydroxychloroquine, an anti-malaria drug championed by President Donald Trump as a potential treatment for the virus, despite little evidence to that effect.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 Just now, meazza said: So then why did Trump extend the guidelines until end of April? Purely political pressure. If he doesn't extend the guidelines, the shrill voices escalate to a fever pitch. In time, I'm confident I'll be proven right when the economy swirls the hopper. Of course, that's exactly what the opposition wants in an election year. 1
B-Man Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 Just now, meazza said: So then why did Trump extend the guidelines until end of April? Thats what the "experts" recommended LESLIE EASTMAN: A Review of Dr. Anthony Fauci’s Past Projections on the Wuhan Coronavirus. . P
Warren Zevon Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said: Purely political pressure. You don't think there was any pressure from the doctors advising him?
Deranged Rhino Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 Will never work. This is asking for violence. 3
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