The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 minute ago, Doc said:

 

Yes it is. 

your obstinance is proof enough..,.

[ScotSHO]

39 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Not posting anything personal online.  Sorry.

I was quoting RedHawk - he pulls that card out when he get small red-cawk energy.

[Doc]

Just now, Joe Ferguson forever said:

your obstinance is proof enough..,.

 

If you say so.  And we know what opinions are like...

[Joe Ferguson forever]

2 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

If you say so.  And we know what opinions are like...

you have 65,000 posts appearing day and night.  Your practice must be very, very slow....or nonexistent.  stop the charade.

[Doc]

18 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

you have 65,000 posts appearing day and night.  Your practice must be very, very slow....or nonexistent.  stop the charade.

 

Works out to about 7 posts a day.  I can whip out that many in the time it takes for the nurses to turnover an operating room one time, much less a whole day of it.

[B-Man]

 

 

UNEXPECTEDLY! How COVID Pushed a Generation of Young People to the Right.

 

For decades, America’s young voters have been deeply—and famously—progressive. In 2008, a youthquake sent Barack Obama to the White House. In 2016, voters ages 18 to 29 broke for Hillary Clinton by 18 points. In 2020, they voted for Joe Biden by 24 points. In 2024, Donald Trump closed most of the gap, losing voters under 30 by a 51–47 margin. In one recent CBS poll, Americans under 30 weren’t just evenly split between the parties. They were even more pro-Trump than Boomers over 65.

 

Precisely polling teens and 20-somethings is a fraught business; some surveys suggest that Trump’s advantage among young people might already be fading. But young people’s apparent lurch right is not an American-only trend.

 

“Far-right parties are surging across Europe—and young voters are buying in,” the journalist Hanne Cokelaere wrote for Politico last year. In France, Germany, Finland, and beyond, young voters are swinging their support toward anti-establishment far-right parties “in numbers equal to and even exceeding older voters.” In Germany, a 2024 survey of 2,000 people showed that young people have adopted a relatively new “gloomy outlook” on the future. No surprise, then, that the far-right Alternative für Deutschland has become the most popular party among Germans under 30. Like most interesting phenomena, this one even has a German name: Rechtsruck, or rightward shift.

 

What’s driving this global Rechtsruck? It’s hard to say for sure. Maybe the entire world is casting a protest vote after several years of inflation. Last year was the largest wipeout for political incumbents in the developed world since the end of the Second World War. One level deeper, it wasn’t inflation on its own, but rather the combination of weak real economic growth and record immigration that tilled the soil for far-right upstarts, who can criticize progressive governments on both sides of the Atlantic for their failure to look out for their own citizens first.

 

There is another potential driver of the global right turn: the pandemic.

 

Pandemics might not initially seem to cash out in any particular political direction. After all, in the spring of 2020, one possible implication of the pandemic seemed to be that it would unite people behind a vision of collective sacrifice—or, at least, collective appreciation for health professionals, or for the effect of vaccines to reduce severe illness among adults. But political science suggests that pandemics are more likely to reduce rather than build trust in scientific authorities.

 

https://archive.is/yHvH6

 

 

Yes, why could that be?

 

 

 

 

 

And then in June, after the public went along with the lockdowns because of that message being constantly hammered home by Fauci, Birx, videos of celebrities singing “Imagine” from their mansions and yachts, and the somber repetitive “We’re all in this together” television commercials, the entire health care profession did a 180 that was worthy of Oceania:

 

 

EXACTLY

 

 “That episode single-handedly destroyed trust in public health officials, proving they’d politicize their expertise when convenient. Corporate media celebrated a douchebag-lawyer shaming families at deserted beaches, then — overnight! — cheered densely packed street protests.”

 

 

 

 

[JDHillFan]

Trust the experts and the science. 

[GaryPinC]

On 2/16/2025 at 11:47 AM, Doc said:

 

Ivermectin was obviously around at the time, but I don't recall hearing about anyone taking it for Wuhan virus until Joe Rogan and Aaron Rodgers said they were taking it late in 2021.  I heard that India was using it.

 

Anyway there were no vaccines for anyone to refuse the most of 2020 and no one was fully vaccinated before Trump left Office.  So that dog won't hunt.

Wrong about no one being fully vaccinated.  https://www.bmcc.cuny.edu/news/alumna-sandra-lindsay-first-to-receive-covid-vaccination-is-bmccs-2021-presidents-medal-honoree/

 

I myself received Moderna December 21 and the second jab 3 weeks later, before Trump left office.  All the hospitals were in overdrive vaccinating December-February as the priority was to get health care professionals vaccinated first.  As a researcher, I was just fortunate that our hospital had extra doses with limited shelf life.

 

As a physician, I should think you would be well aware of this.  

[Doc]

1 hour ago, GaryPinC said:

Wrong about no one being fully vaccinated.  https://www.bmcc.cuny.edu/news/alumna-sandra-lindsay-first-to-receive-covid-vaccination-is-bmccs-2021-presidents-medal-honoree/

 

I myself received Moderna December 21 and the second jab 3 weeks later, before Trump left office.  All the hospitals were in overdrive vaccinating December-February as the priority was to get health care professionals vaccinated first.  As a researcher, I was just fortunate that our hospital had extra doses with limited shelf life.

 

As a physician, I should think you would be well aware of this.  

 

Fair enough, 2M people were fully vaccinated when Trump left Office.  The point still stands. 

[GaryPinC]

4 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Fair enough, 2M people were fully vaccinated when Trump left Office.  The point still stands. 

Which point is that?  The point that Trump handled it better than Biden with no vaccine?

You really think Biden wouldn't have done the shutdown pretty much the same as Trump?

 

Or is it the point of September '21 to February '22 round of deaths where Homelander pointed out to you the states with fewer vaccinations weighed more heavily on the death count?  In this case your point is irrelevant.

 

Or is it the point that no matter who was president the virus was going to ravage the US?  This is the closest to the truth, except that dumb Democrats foolishly thought we could stamp it out while dumb Republicans felt we shouldn't do anything and let it run it's  course.

 

The truth is we simply needed to slow the spread of the novel virus long enough to not overwhelm our health systems and allow science and medicine time to understand in order to minimize it until it was fully endemic.  Masks to protect those around you, distancing and isolation to minimize exposure, vaccines to minimize illness and severity.

It was ugly going, but it worked.  Also don't forget in that Sept 21 to Feb 22 timeline most states were coming off masking and isolation, undoubtedly contributing to the uptick.

People were also burned out on all the precautions and the vaccine gave a sense of security.

[Doc]

10 hours ago, GaryPinC said:

Which point is that?  The point that Trump handled it better than Biden with no vaccine?

You really think Biden wouldn't have done the shutdown pretty much the same as Trump?

 

Or is it the point of September '21 to February '22 round of deaths where Homelander pointed out to you the states with fewer vaccinations weighed more heavily on the death count?  In this case your point is irrelevant.

 

Or is it the point that no matter who was president the virus was going to ravage the US?  This is the closest to the truth, except that dumb Democrats foolishly thought we could stamp it out while dumb Republicans felt we shouldn't do anything and let it run it's  course.

 

The truth is we simply needed to slow the spread of the novel virus long enough to not overwhelm our health systems and allow science and medicine time to understand in order to minimize it until it was fully endemic.  Masks to protect those around you, distancing and isolation to minimize exposure, vaccines to minimize illness and severity.

It was ugly going, but it worked.  Also don't forget in that Sept 21 to Feb 22 timeline most states were coming off masking and isolation, undoubtedly contributing to the uptick.

People were also burned out on all the precautions and the vaccine gave a sense of security.

 

No, that Biden failed in his campaign promise to "shut down the virus" and that it was going to ravage the US no matter who was in Office.  I said that in 2020 and Biden proved me correct.  

[4th&long]

You have to laugh at all the measles outbreaks in these redneck, I mean red states. It's not like we haven't had an effective vaccine. 

[Doc]

1 hour ago, 4th&long said:

You have to laugh at all the measles outbreaks in these redneck, I mean red states. It's not like we haven't had an effective vaccine. 

 

Yeah, the illegals bringing it in is hilarious...

[4th&long]

6 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Yeah, the illegals bringing it in is hilarious...

Oh I'm sure that's all it is. If the idiot rednecks were vaccinated... You think I've never come across a foreigner? 

[Big Blitz]

 

[Big Blitz]

 

[4th&long]

6 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

I thought you guys didn't believe science? Now you except it if it agrees with your point of view? What gives? Pick one. 

[Big Blitz]

1 minute ago, 4th&long said:

I thought you guys didn't believe science? Now you except it if it agrees with your point of view? What gives? Pick one. 

 

We were telling you this in 2020 - there was evidence then this was possible. 
 

YOU only followed dogma.  Fascist CCP dogma.  

[4th&long]

1 minute ago, Big Blitz said:

 

We were telling you this in 2020 - there was evidence then this was possible. 
 

YOU only followed dogma.  Fascist CCP dogma.  

I followed dogma? You don't know what I did. I'm healthy as a horse. 

And your orange Jesus you worship got the "jab" as you ass hats call it. 

And you didn't tell me sh it because there is no wadi on God's green earth I would ether listen to you. You think I believe that ***** you just posted? Fake news. 

[BillsFanNC]

4th invoking science!

 

 

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