The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19

[Doc]

13 minutes ago, Homelander said:

Is anyone surprised that Trump mishandled the COVID response?

 

 

Not as bad as Biden.  Thanks to OWS and some treatments not it wasn't as bad as it could have been.

Edited Saturday at 10:35 PM by Doc

[Homelander]

4 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Not as bad as Biden.  Thanks to OWS and some treatments not it wasn't as bad as it could have been.

 

Everyone has a right to their opinion.

[JDHillFan]

We need to trust the experts. On those occasions they are not straightforward it’s really for our own good. 

[Doc]

2 hours ago, Homelander said:

Everyone has a right to their opinion.

 

Yup, that's what I'm responding to.  I know the death counters stopped on your favorite channels, but that doesn't mean the deaths under Biden did.  Specifically the period from September 2021 to February of 2022, which was a full 7 months after Trump left Office and after millions were fully vaccinated (thanks in large part to Operation Warp Speed) and we had real treatments for Wuhan virus, neither of which were available under Trump.

[Homelander]

3 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Yup, that's what I'm responding to.  I know the death counters stopped on your favorite channels, but that doesn't mean the deaths under Biden did.  Specifically the period from September 2021 to February of 2022, which was a full 7 months after Trump left Office and after millions were fully vaccinated (thanks in large part to Operation Warp Speed) and we had real treatments for Wuhan virus, neither of which were available under Trump.

 

I never suggested that COVID deaths miraculously stopped after Trump passed it on to Biden. After all, Trump had hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, chloroquine, azithromycin, and remdesivir, right?

[Doc]

10 hours ago, Homelander said:

I never suggested that COVID deaths miraculously stopped after Trump passed it on to Biden. After all, Trump had hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, chloroquine, azithromycin, and remdesivir, right?

 

Trump had HCQ and azithromycin and it's pretty much all he had.  Remdesivir was approved in October of 2020 for use against Wuhan virus.  Ivermectin was talked about after he left Office.

 

Biden had all of that plus tens of millions had been fully vaccinated by the time September of 2021 rolled around and saw 300K deaths.  Despite Biden "following the science, listening to his advisors, taking it seriously and reforming the pandemic response team."

 

Like I said over 4 years ago, it was going to ravage the US no matter who was in Office.  And Biden proved that to a "T."

[Homelander]

58 minutes ago, Doc said:

Ivermectin was talked about after he left Office.

 

Not quite.

 

On 4/4/2020 at 4:00 AM, Prickly Pete said:

Anybody hear about this drug....

 

 

https://www.freepressjournal.in/world/coronavirus-outbreak-can-anti-parasite-drug-ivermectin-kill-covid-19-know-more

 

 

https://en.as.com/en/2020/04/04/other_sports/1585963017_478782.html

 

 

 

 

 

59 minutes ago, Doc said:

Biden had all of that plus tens of millions had been fully vaccinated by the time September of 2021 rolled around and saw 300K deaths.  Despite Biden "following the science, listening to his advisors, taking it seriously and reforming the pandemic response team."

 

Like I said over 4 years ago, it was going to ravage the US no matter who was in Office.  And Biden proved that to a "T."

 

Data shows that despite vaccine availability, states with lower vaccination rates experienced higher infection and mortality rates, demonstrating the influence of social media and Fox News.

 

 

[Albwan]

18 hours ago, Homelander said:

 

Everyone has a right to their opinion.

41 posts. main too much ignored?

the forums newest  poster.

[Doc]

31 minutes ago, Homelander said:

Not quite.

 

Data shows that despite vaccine availability, states with lower vaccination rates experienced higher infection and mortality rates, demonstrating the influence of social media and Fox News.

 

Ivermectin was obviously around at the time, but I don't recall hearing about anyone taking it for Wuhan virus until Joe Rogan and Aaron Rodgers said they were taking it late in 2021.  I heard that India was using it.

 

Anyway there were no vaccines for anyone to refuse the most of 2020 and no one was fully vaccinated before Trump left Office.  So that dog won't hunt.

Edited Sunday at 04:57 PM by Doc

[Homelander]

Many people wonder why so many choose to listen to Fox News and social media influencers and not get vaccinated, given that these figures seem intent on undermining America. Just look at the current situation.

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

On 2/16/2025 at 10:22 AM, Doc said:

Trump had HCQ and azithromycin and it's pretty much all he had.  Remdesivir was approved in October of 2020 for use against Wuhan virus.  Ivermectin was talked about after he left Office.

Nope.   Wrong again. And you loved this drug for Covid. Another great example of junk science and the fools that buy it. And you’re not even a little bit ashamed 

 

try June 2020

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/09/19/1038369557/ivermectin-anti-vaccine-movement-culture-wars

 

Edited Tuesday at 04:54 AM by Joe Ferguson forever

[Doc]

7 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Nope.   Wrong again. And you loved this drug for Covid. Another great example of junk science and the fools that buy it. And you’re not even a little bit ashamed 

 

try June 2020

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/09/19/1038369557/ivermectin-anti-vaccine-movement-culture-wars

 

There were 5 mentions of ivermectin here in 2020.  I personally said nothing about ivermectin until 2021, when the vaccines were already out.

 

And no, not ashamed at all.  HCQ was a perfectly safe drug and there was nothing else available at the time (unlike during Biden's time, which made him an even bigger failure with Wuhan virus).  No, shameful is trying to claim that it was too dangerous to even try.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 minute ago, Doc said:

 

There were 5 mentions of ivermectin here in 2020.  I personally said nothing about ivermectin until 2021, when the vaccines were already out.

 

And no, not ashamed at all.  HCQ was a perfectly safe drug and there was nothing else available at the time (unlike during Biden's time, which made him an even bigger failure with Wuhan virus).  No, shameful is trying to claim that it was too dangerous to even try.

Firstly, there is no perfectly safe drug. Just ask your compatriot here who refuses pi’s for a precancerous caused by reflux. Secondly, a paper was published in June 2020, not a “ mention”. There was broad skepticism. Yet you jumped in head first.since there was no known treatment, hell why not try bleach?  If by some freak of academia someone actually gave you an MD, it should be rescinded. Your takes on covid are cavalier and overflowing with hubris. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

29 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Firstly, there is no perfectly safe drug. Just ask your compatriot here who refuses pi’s for a precancerous caused by reflux. Secondly, a paper was published in June 2020, not a “ mention”. There was broad skepticism. Yet you jumped in head first.since there was no known treatment, hell why not try bleach?  If by some freak of academia someone actually gave you an MD, it should be rescinded. Your takes on covid are cavalier and overflowing with hubris. 

Shouldn’t u be prepping for your cases?  Most anesthesiologists start very early. 

[Doc]

2 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Shouldn’t u be prepping for your cases?  Most anesthesiologists start very early. 

 

Not today.  There are only 2 rooms running and there are 3 of us.  I was late yesterday so I got today off. 

[ScotSHO]

You jerks still haven't shown us your accreditation.  I trust neither of you doctors until documents are posted and verified with Ed McMahon at Publishers Clearinghouse.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

23 minutes ago, ScotSHO said:

You jerks still haven't shown us your accreditation.  I trust neither of you doctors until documents are posted and verified with Ed McMahon at Publishers Clearinghouse.

I’ve offered multiple times. A pic of license or board certification with name and number blacked out. He repeatedly has refused to offer is still there. 

[Doc]

36 minutes ago, ScotSHO said:

You jerks still haven't shown us your accreditation.  I trust neither of you doctors until documents are posted and verified with Ed McMahon at Publishers Clearinghouse.

 

Not posting anything personal online.  Sorry.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

32 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Not posting anything personal online.  Sorry.

yes, you refused to participate in an EKG reading competency test with me also.  I know I'm competent.  Any anesthesiologist should be as well.  Re credentials, put black tape over your name and license number on your framed license, take a photo and no personal info will be disseminated.  The state symbol and seal will suffice as proof.  As I've stated before, it's illegal to misrepresent yourself as a physician.

Edited Tuesday at 02:46 PM by Joe Ferguson forever

[Doc]

4 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

yes, you refused to participate in an EKG reading competency test with me also.  I know I'm competent.  Any anesthesiologist should be as well.  Re credentials, put black tape over your name and license number on your framed license, take a photo and no personal info will be disseminated.  The state symbol and seal will suffice as proof.  As I've stated before, it's illegal to misrepresent yourself as a physician.

 

Yes it is.