The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19

[B-Man]

 

 

A FINAL REPORT CARD ON THE STATES’ RESPONSE TO COVID-19
NATIONAL BUREAU OF ECONOMIC RESEARCH
Phil Kerpen
Stephen Moore
Casey B. Mulligan

States that did the worst during covid:

New Jersey
DC (ok, so not a state but listed at 50 with an F-)
New York
New Mexico
California
Illinois also got an F.

 

The Relationship Between Mortality, Education, and Economy Scores
Excluding the geographically unusual cases of Hawaii and Alaska to focus on the continental U.S., there is no apparent
relationship between reduced economic activity during the pandemic and our composite mortality measure.

Education
School closures may ultimately prove to be the most costly policy decision of the pandemic era in both economic and
mortality terms. One study found that school closures at the end of the previous 2019-2020 school year are
associated with 13.8 million years of life lost. An NIH analysis found that life expectancy for high school graduates is 4
to 6 years longer than high school dropouts. The OECD estimates that learning losses from pandemic era school
closures could cause a 3% decline in lifetime earnings, and that a loss of just one third of a year of learning has a
long-term economic impact of $14 trillion.

Unlike mortality or economic outcomes, closing public schools was entirely under the control of policymakers. Almost
all private schools were open.

This ranking and map from the tracking company Burbio show the cumulative share of in-person instruction in each
state, with part-time hybrid schedules counting at half weight.

 

https://s.wsj.net/public/resources/documents/NBERcovidstudy.pdf

 

 

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

Love ya Alina, but asking partisan hacks to not be partisan (on BOTH sides) is a pipe dream.

 

Expect more "trust the (my) science" from morons who don't understand the first ***** thing about 4th grade science.

 

 

[Doc]

It came from the Wuhan lab that have been proven to be genetically engineering it, until proven otherwise.

[billsfanmiamioh]

9 hours ago, Doc said:

It came from the Wuhan lab that have been proven to be genetically engineering it, until proven otherwise.

No way. Definitely came from some frozen fish sticks at the Wuhan market. Quit being a crazy conspiracy theorist! 

[BillsFanNC]

17 hours ago, Doc said:

It came from the Wuhan lab that have been proven to be genetically engineering it, until proven otherwise.

 

The circumstantial evidence overwhelmingly points to a lab leak.

 

However, the point she is making as an expert in the field is that they still do not have 100% proof that it came from the lab. One of the main reasons that we don't have the solid evidence is due to the lack of transparency among scientists who were working on these projects. This lack of transparency is itself yet another piece of circumstantial evidence supporting the lab leak.

 

 

[Westside]

You’re not allowed to blame china.

[All_Pro_Bills]

1 hour ago, DRsGhost said:

 

The circumstantial evidence overwhelmingly points to a lab leak.

 

However, the point she is making as an expert in the field is that they still do not have 100% proof that it came from the lab. One of the main reasons that we don't have the solid evidence is due to the lack of transparency among scientists who were working on these projects. This lack of transparency is itself yet another piece of circumstantial evidence supporting the lab leak.

 

 

Given the evidence and science around viruses in general and natural mutations and the location of the lab and the epicenter of the outbreak and the inability to produce a Bat in the wild with the specific virus and the oddity of the specific mutations with COVID given known Coronaviruses, the lab leak theory seems most plausible when applying deductive reasoning or what might be basic troubleshooting through process of elimination.   

I don't recall any researchers or scientists publicly making a valid case that passed any sort of peer review standard for acceptance for how the mutations could appear naturally but if there is one that would be something to consider.

The base Chinese government theory is the virus was brought to Wuhan by US military personnel participating in an athletic competition between military members representing their countries from around the world.  That would imply a US military person was patient zero but there isn't any collaborating evidence to support that contention that I'm aware of here. 

[Doc]

2 hours ago, DRsGhost said:

The circumstantial evidence overwhelmingly points to a lab leak.

 

However, the point she is making as an expert in the field is that they still do not have 100% proof that it came from the lab. One of the main reasons that we don't have the solid evidence is due to the lack of transparency among scientists who were working on these projects. This lack of transparency is itself yet another piece of circumstantial evidence supporting the lab leak.

 

 

 

It's more than circumstantial.  They study these viruses there, they've been obstructing investigation into it, and there's ZERO evidence it came from a wet market.  It's came from there and didn't just pop up out of nowhere so the only conclusion is it came from the lab.

[BillsFanNC]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

It's more than circumstantial.  They study these viruses there, they've been obstructing investigation into it, and there's ZERO evidence it came from a wet market.  It's came from there and didn't just pop up out of nowhere so the only conclusion is it came from the lab.

 

Agreed....to an extent. Because without sequence data directly linking the virus that caused the pandemic to either the wuhan lab or to a natural reservoir origin then you don't know with absolute certainty either way.

 

My opinion of course is that this is exactly the point behind their lack of transparency in both Wuhan and the granting agencies here in the US. Without the rock solid data they can keep handwaving their way around the lab leak theory.

 

Alina is one of the few credible scientists left on this issue. because without the irrefutable data she's not going to make an absolute claim in either direction. Although she definitely leans strongly towards the lab leak side.

Edited April 18, 2022 by DRsGhost

[Doc]

2 hours ago, DRsGhost said:

Agreed....to an extent. Because without sequence data directly linking the virus that caused the pandemic to either the wuhan lab or to a natural reservoir origin then you don't know with absolute certainty either way.

 

My opinion of course is that this is exactly the point behind their lack of transparency in both Wuhan and the granting agencies here in the US. Without the rock solid data they can keep handwaving their way around the lab leak theory.

 

Alina is one of the few credible scientists left on this issue. because without the irrefutable data she's not going to make an absolute claim in either direction. Although she definitely leans strongly towards the lab leak side.

 

Which is why I said that until proven otherwise, it came from the lab.  It had to come from somewhere and so far there is zero evidence it came from a wet market.  Holding China accountable is a separate matter.

[BillsFanNC]

I have worked in BSL-2 labs so I responded to her poll. My responses:

 

1. Never seen this

2. Seen several cases

3. Never/rarely masked.

 

The point of her poll is to illustrate that if reports that they were working with dangerous SARS like viruses at Wuhan in a BSL-2 environment are true, then an accidental leak is very probable.

 

I never wore a mask when working in a BSL-2 because it's not required and people often touch their phones in the lab with gloved hands.

 

Granted you are working with highly concentrated pathogens under a hood, not out in the open and it's second nature to ethanol your gloves when going in and out of a hood, but still genetically engineered mutant viruses should never be handled under BSL-2 conditions. 

 

More transparency necessary about what actually went on in those labs.

 

 

[Albwan]

 

[Precision]

I love how the idiots without any technical background fall over each-other promoting "Follow the Science".  I guess they forgot about.....

 

When doctors said smoking was good for you (1930's-1950's).

The thalidomide catastrophe where doctors recommended it and 100K babies died or had birth defects (1950's-1960's).

Vioxx approved by the FDA in 1999 and led to 60K US deaths.

Fen-phen approved by the FDA in 1996 led to hundreds of heart defects.

Lobotomies, still being performed in the 1960's.

 

Medical errors were the third leading cause of death in the US in 2018. 

 

Follow the science?  I don't think so.

[Big Blitz]

 

 

 

1 year from now:  Vaccines don't work.  

[BillsFanNC]

 

[\GoBillsInDallas/]

https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7vymn/cdc-tracked-phones-location-data-curfews

 

[Big Blitz]

44 minutes ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said:

https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7vymn/cdc-tracked-phones-location-data-curfews

 

 

 

It's the biggest story of the year but let's not talk about because f... your freedoms 

 

 

 

"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) bought access to location data harvested from tens of millions of phones in the United States to perform analysis of compliance with curfews, track patterns of people visiting K-12 schools, and specifically monitor the effectiveness of policy in the Navajo Nation, according to CDC documents obtained by Motherboard. The documents also show that although the CDC used COVID-19 as a reason to buy access to the data more quickly, it intended to use it for more-general CDC purposes."

 

 

 

 

When you recognize the CDC is essentially the Democrat Party now; another arm of its Federal Power, this will make sense.

 

What will also make sense - maybe it wasn't so random when a locality suddenly was increasing its restrictions.   

 

Had the help of "SafeLock."

Edited May 4, 2022 by Big Blitz

[dpberr]

On 4/8/2022 at 10:08 AM, DRsGhost said:

 

 

The truth is uglier - COVID is likely just the latest lab accident.  SARS, MERS, 2009 flu outbreak, even the swine flu of 1976.  All bugs with no known origin in nature - to this day. 

[BillStime]

 

[B-Man]