Deranged Rhino Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 ************************** ****************** 2 1
IYKYK Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: ************************** ****************** Didn't the President mention that drug last week but was laughed at and ridiculed by the left and msm? 7
Deranged Rhino Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 Just now, westside2 said: Didn't the President mention that drug last week but was laughed at and ridiculed by the left and msm? Yes. He was grilled for it, and blasted reporters who used it to drive a wedge between him and Fauci. It's a CLEAR example of how badly the national media has lost its way. 6 1
Buffalo_Gal Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 Even Mitt is surprised by the Ds. I, however, am not. "Never let a crisis go to waste." 3 2
Prickly Pete Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Even Mitt is surprised by the Ds. I, however, am not. "Never let a crisis go to waste." Actually, if Mitt likes it, it's suspect. Edited March 23, 2020 by 32ABBA 1
B-Man Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 ROGER KIMBALL: COVID-19, the Elephant, and the House Cat. SEN. AMY KLOBUCHAR SAYS HER HUSBAND HAS TESTED POSITIVE FOR CORONAVIRUS: “After a persistent temperature and a ‘bad, bad’ cough, [John] Bessler began coughing up blood, Klobuchar [D-MN] said, prompting him to get a coronavirus test and a chest X-ray. He checked into a hospital in Virginia and ‘now has pneumonia and is on oxygen but not a ventilator,’ Klobuchar said.” Hillary and Chinese Gov’t Reading From Same Script In Calling Trump Racist Over “Chinese Virus”. AN ARGUMENT FOR LOCALISM: Disaster in New York does not require the same policy everywhere. New York State has a whopping 810 cases per million residents, closing in on both Italy and Switzerland fast. And the vast majority of those cases are concentrated in the City and nearby commuter counties. Franklin County, in the Adirondacks (and where your Editor has been known to spend some time) has not yet had a single confirmed case. By contrast, the other 49 states combined, including such hot zones as Washington and California, are at 54 cases per million residents. That puts the per million infection rate in the “other 49” just between Australia and North Macedonia. Or China, if you care to believe Commie numbers. Which we don’t. One question, of course, is whether the rest of the country is just “behind” New York by a few days, or whether there are important differences that should inform policy. We suspect some of both is true. Yes, New York is the land of stainless steel subway poles, where the virus once deposited will linger a particularly long time, cheek-by-jowl restaurant tables, and terribly crowded sidewalks. But New York is also testing heaving masses of people, so it may be revealing its own infections more completely than other states that will soon catch up in the world’s most dubious league table. Regardless, the vast difference in the apparent rate of infection between downstate New York and the rest of the country (and the considerable differences among the remaining 49 states) suggests that we need not apply precisely the same policies in every jurisdiction. Even in New York State, we do not understand the logic, beyond mere political calculus, for imposing the same burdens on the already poor towns of the Adirondacks as are the bare minimum, if that, in the boroughs. Read the whole thing. . . 2
GG Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) RPI has put together a landing page of CV resources. Worth a look for those interested in the data & trends. Edited March 23, 2020 by GG 1 5
B-Man Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) HELL YEAH! As Dems call on Trump to nationalize the supply chain, 3M announces it’s now making 35 MILLION N95 masks per month We thought Ted Lieu’s take was bad, but Bloomberg News links drug overdoses in Nigeria on President Trump . America FTW: President Trump gives shout-outs to private sector companies for coming through with what’s needed . Edited March 23, 2020 by B-Man 1
fansince88 Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said: Doc, on this very site is I believe an anesthesiologist in CT, posted today that his hospital was issuing Hydroxychloquine to staff as a preventive measure. Awesome. Didnt see that thanks. BTW, I work for a Drug Chain distribution center based out of NY. We are having trouble procuring thst product at the moment.
Doc Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, B-Man said: HELL YEAH! As Dems call on Trump to nationalize the supply chain, 3M announces it’s now making 35 MILLION N95 masks per month We thought Ted Lieu’s take was bad, but Bloomberg News links drug overdoses in Nigeria on President Trump . America FTW: President Trump gives shout-outs to private sector companies for coming through with what’s needed . Bloomberg is a ***** joke now. Too bad he didn't spend the money he wasted on his stupid Presidential run on the Wuhan virus. Edited March 23, 2020 by Doc 4
B-Man Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 A very important point to remember........discuss it with you family "As an ER doctor, I am already faced with patients who arrive too sick to tell me their wishes, with no documentation of what those were when they were well enough to articulate them..." "... and with family members who never asked and, as a result, just don’t know. It is in these situations, as I place tubes and lines in this failing body, that I worry we are not providing care that is concordant with their goals. If I had known that the 68-year-old with recently diagnosed metastatic breast cancer is more worried about being uncomfortable at the end of her life, rather than prolonging it, we wouldn’t have placed that breathing tube and would instead have focused our intensive efforts on making her comfortable. If I had known that the 81-year-old had always hoped to die at home, I would have spent more time trying to mobilize our home hospice team rather than defaulting to a hospital admission.... I recently had this conversation with my own father and found out that he worried more about getting overly aggressive care than he did about not getting enough.... I wish we didn’t have to make and share these difficult decisions, but I worry that we are in a situation that necessitates it even more than usual." From "Do your loved ones a favor. Find out now how they want to die. I’m an ER doctor, and we need to know what matters most to your family member" by Emily Aaronson (in WaPo). One thing that Aaronson doesn't talk about is how bad it is in a time of shortage to use hospital equipment and services on people who would prefer to be left at home and to struggle to breathe or die without the invasion of ventilator tubes. Perhaps the inference is so obvious it's just brutal to specify it. That's a little ironic in an article about the problem of failing to "articulate" things. But I can see why Dr. Aaronson keeps quiet about anything that feels like utilitarianism. 2
TPS Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 Interesting piece on the virus and differences in "types" of Trump supporters. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/03/why-some-early-maga-adopters-went-against-trumps-virus-doctrine
TPS Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 19 hours ago, TPS said: Cases in Italy declined 15% compared to yesterday. Hopefully they’re turning the corner. Cases are down another 14% from previous day. 3/21 6557 3/22 5560 3/23 4789 This is why you take extreme measures of quarantining, to bring the rate of contagion down. This is good news @PaoloBillsFanFromItaly 1 2
PaoloBillsFanFromItaly Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 1 minute ago, TPS said: Cases are down another 14% from previous day. 3/21 6557 3/22 5560 3/23 4789 This is why you take extreme measures of quarantining, to bring the rate of contagion down. This is good news @PaoloBillsFanFromItaly Yes, extreme measures are beginning to give results, I was expecting the lowering of the cases one week before (15 days after the decree) so I was very pessimistic until today. Today it seems that the lowering trend is for real. 2 1
Deranged Rhino Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 Just now, PaoloBillsFanFromItaly said: Yes, extreme measures are beginning to give results, I was expecting the lowering of the cases one week before (15 days after the decree) so I was very pessimistic until today. Today it seems that the lowering trend is for real. Glad there's light at the end of the tunnel for you and yours, Paolo. Let's keep it up. 3
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 I find more and more that I'm wondering about the long term ramifications of the current social distancing measures being implemented. For example, teleworking has jumped forward a decade in some fields and business operations are changing as companies are forced to expose antiquated policies are not actually essential, as they've insisted to avoid change. Similar with school. I wonder if there are any long term changes there that come out of this. 2
Prickly Pete Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, wppete said: He is wearing a Bills hat. Shoot him.
Doc Brown Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, JetsFan20 said: There was not nearly the sense of urgency in 2008 that there is today when people are dying. It could take weeks for these #######s to get something to do something. I don’t believe Pelosi and Schumer really want the market to crash (they have millions on the line as well), but I do think they are concerned of a pro Trump perception. If that’s the case they need to get off their high horses and act like elected officials. Yeah there was. This massive stimulus bill isn't going to suddenly stop the pandemic. Hopefully it will calm the market a little and give small businesses temporarily relief. You're going to see far left and far right congressman oppose the bill like you did back then. Edited March 23, 2020 by Doc Brown
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