Doc Posted December 2, 2021 Posted December 2, 2021 1 minute ago, ALF said: Not likely , he was admitted to the hospital 2 Oct 2020 for covid. Possibly. He took another one right after and it was negative.
ALF Posted December 2, 2021 Posted December 2, 2021 Just now, Doc said: Possibly. He took another one right after and it was negative. With a unreliable test and shortly after admitted to hospital if you read the full article. 1
GaryPinC Posted December 3, 2021 Posted December 3, 2021 12 hours ago, Doc said: Possibly. He took another one right after and it was negative. They were using the Binax Now test. I've used this at home and if you get a positive Covid result it's 98.5% accurate. If you get a negative result it's 84.6% chance it's accurate. So with Trump's negative test, there's about a 15% chance it was inaccurate, for his positive about a 1.5% chance it was inaccurate. Then he got sick and confirmed Covid a couple days later. Sooooo...
Sundancer Posted December 3, 2021 Posted December 3, 2021 The Omicron data is early and all over the place but one data point South Africa is reporting is that more kids are being hospitalized right now than previous waves. Not sure if that will continue as a trend but that would be a big change.
TSOL Posted December 3, 2021 Posted December 3, 2021 3 hours ago, Sundancer said: The Omicron data is early and all over the place but one data point South Africa is reporting is that more kids are being hospitalized right now than previous waves. Not sure if that will continue as a trend but that would be a big change. That's what they have been saying about all the varieties! That "more kids are being hospitalized" remember the delta variety when *pediatric ICU units were being filled up"? Wake me up when people under the age of 85 start dying Oh and stick the vaccine where the sun don't shine
billsfanmiamioh Posted December 3, 2021 Posted December 3, 2021 1 minute ago, TSOL said: That's what they have been saying about all the varieties! That "more kids are being hospitalized" remember the delta variety when *pediatric ICU units were being filled up"? Wake me up when people under the age of 85 start dying Oh and stick the vaccine where the sun don't shine I’ve discovered that people are generally incapable of examining the statistics on covid deaths and determining the relative risk level to their age group. The risk of severe illness or death in children is so small, yet here we are lining them up to get the jab and a sticker / picture to post on social media. It’s all whacked
TSOL Posted December 3, 2021 Posted December 3, 2021 Just now, billsfanmiamioh said: I’ve discovered that people are generally incapable of examining the statistics on covid deaths and determining the relative risk level to their age group. The risk of severe illness or death in children is so small, yet here we are lining them up to get the jab and a sticker / picture to post on social media. It’s all whacked Yep, my kids included. I cant go to their sports (no parents allowed in) masked 7 hours straight at school, my one is home on quarantine right now for the second time this year for "close encounters" And all the people who are supporting this arbitrary state subjugation are like... Really low in my book
Big Blitz Posted December 3, 2021 Posted December 3, 2021 12 minutes ago, TSOL said: That's what they have been saying about all the varieties! That "more kids are being hospitalized" remember the delta variety when *pediatric ICU units were being filled up"? Wake me up when people under the age of 85 start dying Oh and stick the vaccine where the sun don't shine Fear porn Commie rag - notice the bold Omicron Triggers ‘Unprecedented’ COVID Surge Hitting Under 5s in South Africa ....Groome said: “This is the highest we’ve ever seen it since the start of the pandemic.” Phaahla said daily cases have rocketed by 9,000 cases per day, climbing from “2,465 new cases last Thursday when this variant was announced to yesterday’s high of 11,535.” “This variant is indeed highly transmissible, including in people who have already been vaccinated,” he said. Phaahla attempted to sound an optimistic note by saying that he believes the new variant is more transmissible “but less severe” than previous variants. He said that while vaccinated people are getting infected, a disproportionate number of those ending up in hospitals are not vaccinated and that the South African hospital system is coping for the time being and has spare capacity. https://www.thedailybeast.com/omicron-variant-puttings-huge-numbers-of-kids-under-5-years-old-in-hospital-in-south-africa When stating facts, it's an attempt at an "optimistic note." When hyping the fear, those are facts. 1
TSOL Posted December 3, 2021 Posted December 3, 2021 Just now, Big Blitz said: Fear porn Commie rag - notice the bold Omicron Triggers ‘Unprecedented’ COVID Surge Hitting Under 5s in South Africa ....Groome said: “This is the highest we’ve ever seen it since the start of the pandemic.” Phaahla said daily cases have rocketed by 9,000 cases per day, climbing from “2,465 new cases last Thursday when this variant was announced to yesterday’s high of 11,535.” “This variant is indeed highly transmissible, including in people who have already been vaccinated,” he said. Phaahla attempted to sound an optimistic note by saying that he believes the new variant is more transmissible “but less severe” than previous variants. He said that while vaccinated people are getting infected, a disproportionate number of those ending up in hospitals are not vaccinated and that the South African hospital system is coping for the time being and has spare capacity. https://www.thedailybeast.com/omicron-variant-puttings-huge-numbers-of-kids-under-5-years-old-in-hospital-in-south-africa When stating facts, it's an attempt at an "optimistic note." When hyping the fear, those are facts. I wish it would get stronger I'm unvaxxed and I had it 4 months before it was supposedly invented. Natural immunity holding strong 2+ years now. Just think for yourselves
Big Blitz Posted December 3, 2021 Posted December 3, 2021 (edited) Omicron Shows Why It’s Time to Move On from COVID Restrictions ....In March 2020, the debate was over whether to impose restrictions and tell people to hunker down for a matter of weeks or maybe a few months. Whatever one’s opinion on the debate over restrictions back then, it’s different from the debate we now find ourselves in — the debate over how we want to live our lives, assuming that COVID-19 is here with us forever. Sacrifices that may have been manageable or policies that may have been defensible for a short period of time are much more unrealistic when the time frame becomes indefinite. And the existence of Omicron suggests that “indefinite” is now the reality. A year ago, vaccines were supposed to be the natural endpoint. But since vaccines have become widely available, we’ve learned that their ability to prevent infection wanes over time, even though they are safe and remain effective at reducing the chances of severe illness. This means that people require boosters to reestablish their immunity. But what if boosters, too, become less effective over time? That brings us to the variants. The number of COVID-19 cases was winding down in the spring, before the Delta wave hit in the summer and fall and helped trigger another surge. Now Omicron is on the march. We have every reason to believe that there will be additional variants to follow. ...we’re perpetually either coming off a surge from one variant or bracing for the spread of new one, so this is a recipe for never truly going back to normal. The same goes for vaccines. Fauci claimed on Wednesday that the lesson from Omicron is that “if we had the overwhelming majority of the people in this country vaccinated and those who needed to be boosted, boosted, our vulnerability would be much less than it is now.” It’s an odd thing to say given that the one confirmed case of Omicron in the U.S. is somebody who was double vaccinated and, as Fauci notes, we have no solid evidence on whether the vaccines are effective against Omicron. Fauci went on to say, "The endgame — which we hope and I think will occur — is that as we get more people vaccinated, not only in this country but globally, we will see a situation where viruses will not have the opportunity. What they have right now is to essentially freely distribute and freely circulate in society, both domestic society and global society." But during the same press conference, Fauci reiterated that the definition of “fully vaccinated” could change so it would include only people who had received their boosters. If that’s the case, and we need boosters every six months, and on top of that there may be updated mRNA boosters aimed at specific variants, and new variants keep cropping up every few months, how could it possibly be realistic to expect that we’re going to keep a critical mass of the world fully vaccinated? We aren’t talking about something like the MMR vaccine, which creates lifetime immunity. We’re talking about a constantly moving target. So there is not likely to be any sort of “endpoint” as Fauci would define it. COVID-19 is endemic and will likely be here for quite a long time. Making sacrifices for a few months to a year is a lot different from living a certain way for many years, or even decades. https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/12/omicron-shows-why-its-time-to-move-on-from-covid-restrictions/ Edited December 3, 2021 by Big Blitz 1
Big Blitz Posted December 3, 2021 Posted December 3, 2021 COVID-19 likely to reach baseline mutation in the future As the new variant spreads across the world and into the United States, it reinforces what many health experts already knew – that COVID-19 is likely sticking around for years to come. "It's not normal," for those who are vaccinated to get long COVID-19 in breakthrough cases, he said. "It may occur in a minimum of people." But getting vaccinated or a booster shot is more likely to just put off contracting a breakthrough case later, instead of making the person impervious, he said. Obviously, no one wants to get COVID-19, but people have to think about strategy, he said. These first-generation vaccines will "kick the can down the road" until second-generation vaccines are developed. "Especially since we know the trajectory of the pandemic is not influenced by booster vaccinations, it’s influenced by first and second doses," he said. Although there will always be some risk related to COVID-19, "the best way to live with it is to get vaccinated so that you’re protected against the severe consequences of the disease," said Adalja. Looking ahead to the future, decades from now, the virus will have integrated into society. Although there will always be some risk related to COVID-19, "the best way to live with it is to get vaccinated so that you’re protected against the severe consequences of the disease," said Adalja. "Eventually you will see some of the public health recommendations become more like recommendations than requirements in terms of isolation and quarantine," he said. https://www.audacy.com/news/covid-19-likely-to-reach-baseline-mutation-in-the-future Read those last 2 paragraphs again. Nothing changes the dynamic of vaccinated still getting covid for YEARS. There is no magic percentage vaccinated that does this. You've been lied to. All it does is lessen the chances of you dying. That's it. The fear of cases keeps this permanent unless you live in a free state. The protocols will be permanent and that isn't sustainable let alone conducive to a free society.
Big Blitz Posted December 3, 2021 Posted December 3, 2021 Yep They're not even going to call it Covid anymore - either you're sick of hearing it or you're terrified of the variants
B-Man Posted December 8, 2021 Posted December 8, 2021 On 12/3/2021 at 11:43 AM, Big Blitz said: Yep They're not even going to call it Covid anymore - either you're sick of hearing it or you're terrified of the variants 1 1
Chef Jim Posted December 8, 2021 Posted December 8, 2021 7 hours ago, B-Man said: I’ll give @The Poojer credit. He posted this on FB 1
The Frankish Reich Posted December 9, 2021 Posted December 9, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Big Blitz said: Dayum! Finland's Prime Minister gets a hall pass from me. And I just about got over wanting to move to Madrid so I could live under the watchful eye of Isabel Diaz Ayuso. Europe, you are winning. Bigly. https://elpais.com/espana/madrid/2021-10-07/diaz-ayuso-rechaza-la-propuesta-de-vox-para-colgar-la-bandera-de-espana-en-todos-los-colegios.html Edited December 9, 2021 by The Frankish Reich 1
Big Blitz Posted December 9, 2021 Posted December 9, 2021 It's official!! Mandated gym memberships and daily calorie intakes! For the common good! We can stop hospitalizations and deaths! We can't get to 1 million deaths on Xiden's watch!
billsfan5121 Posted December 9, 2021 Posted December 9, 2021 9 hours ago, Big Blitz said: It's official!! Mandated gym memberships and daily calorie intakes! For the common good! We can stop hospitalizations and deaths! We can't get to 1 million deaths on Xiden's watch! Lol. For all the noble people who got vaccinated for the greater good of humanity, I wonder how they’d feel about banning the sale of sugary or processed foods. It’s easy to be for something when it lines up with your beliefs. But rest assured, one day if we continue down this path of govt intervention, it will impact something that does not align with your belief. And what will they do then? 1
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