TPS Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 1 hour ago, GG said: Puevo is equally wrong in his analysis, because he doesn't account for the viral effects across geographies and countries. It's quaint to say that the virus doesn't recognize national boundaries, but the real impact across neighboring countries begs to differ. To me the best statistical explanation is this little chart, and it mirrors the spread fairly well. Do the histograph of infections in the green zone and a pattern certainly emerges. Pueyo links to an article on temps and virus, which suggests there "may" be an impact. Looking at the data for Australia and Brazil, however, both are on exponential growth paths currently.
Beast Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, B-Man said: Cuomo is such a fraud. Yesterday he says if we can even save one life this is all worth it. Well, there is a way he can save MANY from getting infected but he fails to do so. People lapping up what he spews cracks me the ***** up. People are morons. Edited March 22, 2020 by Binghamton Beast
Tiberius Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 16 minutes ago, TPS said: Not really. Yes. Helicopter money, sorry wrong thread, but interesting. https://www.ft.com/content/abd6bbd0-6a9f-11ea-800d-da70cff6e4d3
TPS Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 Should've added, the issue is we just don't know yet. Regarding his second article, he suggests extreme measures would take 2-3 weeks to get the R0 factor down. However, with fewer people infected, we could expect another burst late fall. That would give us the time to prepare though.
Boatdrinks Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 Just now, Binghamton Beast said: Cuomo is such a fraud. Yesterday he says if we can even save one life this is all worth it. Well, there is a way he can save MANY from getting infected but he fails to do so. People lapping up what he spews cracks me the ***** up. People are morons. Agreed. I keep harping on it , but it was pointed out in Friday’s NY Post that the lack of ventilators in NYS can be traced back to Cuomo in 2015. He decided not to include their purchase in the budget. He’s a fraud of the highest order and wants to score political points by blaming Trump. NYers should see that the emperor truly has no clothes in this case. Cuomo”s priorities are things such as his bloated Medicaid program and giving drivers licenses to illegals, not prepping for a pandemic. 1
TPS Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Helicopter money, sorry wrong thread, but interesting. https://www.ft.com/content/abd6bbd0-6a9f-11ea-800d-da70cff6e4d3 All deficit spending is essentially helicopter money. Just now, Boatdrinks said: Agreed. I keep harping on it , but it was pointed out in Friday’s NY Post that the lack of ventilators in NYS can be traced back to Cuomo in 2015. He decided not to include their purchase in the budget. He’s a fraud of the highest order and wants to score political points by blaming Trump. NYers should see that the emperor truly has no clothes in this case. Cuomo”s priorities are things such as his bloated Medicaid program and giving drivers licenses to illegals, not prepping for a pandemic. At least he doesn't get into petty squabbles with reporters... of course, you guys would've criticized him for wasting money on ventilators back then anyway.
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 17 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: My impressions of Cuomo during this trying time: He is on top of things and appears to have risen to the crisis. Today was the first time I sensed that he was equivocating to the point where at a later date he could blame the Feds for something going wrong. He loves to hear himself talk, especially in front of a camera. He sees this crisis as a possible stepping stone to POTUS. Oh, did I say he loves to hear himself talk? My understanding is that if he and Schumer are together and there is a camera around, Schumer is the one that ends of holding Cuomo's beer. NYC is huge with lots of people. Might need a tons of ventilators. (not going into politics). Just makes sense going to need hell of lot more of them.
PetermansRedemption Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 Looks like any hope at a quick stimulus bill is crumbling currently. Schumer and Pelosi left the meeting.
Boatdrinks Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, TPS said: All deficit spending is essentially helicopter money. At least he doesn't get into petty squabbles with reporters... of course, you guys would've criticized him for wasting money on ventilators back then anyway. Oh, ok sure. Cuomo wastes money, but I doubt many here would have critiqued that purchase. He doesn’t get into squabbles with reporters because they’re on his side ! The media is largely an extension of the Democratic Party and has been for quite some time.
Foxx Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Binghamton Beast said: Cuomo running his mouth again about saving lives. Then why doesn't he quarantine New York City from the rest of us? can't we just secede? 2
Boatdrinks Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 Just now, PetermansRedemption said: Looks like any hope at a quick stimulus bill is crumbling currently. Schumer and Pelosi left the meeting. They would like nothing better than economic ruin for the middle class. Sign them up permanently for benefit programs and secure their votes. Prosperity is for the ruling class, not the peasants. 1
B-Man Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: NYC is huge with lots of people. Might need a tons of ventilators. (not going into politics). Just makes sense going to need hell of lot more of them. NEW YORK’S VENTILATOR RATIONING PLAN. “Cuomo could have purchased the additional 16,000 needed ventilators for $36,000 apiece or a total of $576 million in 2015. It’s a lot of money but less than the $750 million he threw away on a boondoggle ‘Buffalo Billion’ solar panel factory. When it comes to state budget priorities, spending half a percent of the budget on ventilators is a no brainer.” . 1 1 2
Foxx Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Question: Is there any danger we could flood the economy with too many dollars here? It sure looks like this government response to the crisis will make 2008 look like small potatoes. Can we just print up money and not worry? I’ll hang up and listen for your response when we look in the review mirror, 2008 is going to be small potatoes. and yes, did QE matter? 44 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: No. I believe that you are working for a leftist think tank after you responded to an ad along the lines of "Work from home. Make 2-3K dollars per week............." so... a laundromat. you were right. Edited March 22, 2020 by Foxx 1
CommonCents Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 19 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: Cuomo is such a fraud. Yesterday he says if we can even save one life this is all worth it. Well, there is a way he can save MANY from getting infected but he fails to do so. People lapping up what he spews cracks me the ***** up. People are morons. Did he shut down NYC or the whole state?
Tiberius Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 15 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: They would like nothing better than economic ruin for the middle class. Sign them up permanently for benefit programs and secure their votes. Prosperity is for the ruling class, not the peasants. Republicans are probably taking advantage of the situation to get their clients more money from the public trough. Fix Main Street first and foremost!
Deranged Rhino Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Hardhatharry said: Getting under the idiots skin, so fun. Nothing like bragging about intentionally trying to bother people during a crisis. What a guy. 3
Tiberius Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 Quote An additional $425 billion would be designated for loans and loan guarantees meant to rescue “eligible businesses, states or municipalities.” This part of the bill has attracted particular attention from Democrats, some of whom have alleged it would give the Treasury Department broad sway to direct funds to specific companies that have appealed to the White House. President Trump has already talked about how he wants to help the cruise industry and the hotel industry, but dozens of other industries have pleaded for assistance as well. Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) called the bucket of money a “slush fund to boost favored companies and corporate executives - while they continue to pull down huge paychecks and fire their workers." Total no go. Handing Trump this money would be enabling a crook to shake down businesses. Given Trump that power would be criminal. He cannot be trusted. He's already proved that. Create some sort of board that determines where the money goes with Dems and GOP on it. 3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Nothing like bragging about intentionally trying to bother people during a crisis. What a guy. Lol, making more friends I see. Good afternoon DR
Deranged Rhino Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 ****************** And the NCSC just proved how uninformed @Crayola64 is. Why, it was just yesterday he claimed the CCP didn't start the whole "the virus started in the US/calling the virus Chinese virus is racist". Oops. ******************** 1 3
Westside Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Crayola64 said: Do making things up make you feel better lol? Like you know my career is good, so you make up false facts about it to make yourself feel better? Go ahead, it doesn't bother me haha Oh the irony. Lol 1
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