dpberr Posted April 27, 2021 Posted April 27, 2021 16 minutes ago, Melon said: Wait until you see what's happening outside of this country Are you going to attempt to correlate the situation in India with the United States? India is one of the most Vitamin D deficient populations in the world, largely due to malnutrition. Studies suggest 90% of the population is deficient to severely deficient. Add that to poor sanitation and you have millions of juicy hosts for viruses to feast upon. It's why viruses historically run roughshod over India. You're only hearing about it now because it advances a narrative, but India is routinely fighting viral, bacterial and fungal plagues of all kinds, especially in its cities.
Melon Posted April 27, 2021 Posted April 27, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, dpberr said: Are you going to attempt to correlate the situation in India with the United States? No He's worried about irreversible permanent damage due to mitigation efforts. The United States is not alone in trying to mitigate damage and lagged behind many countries until vaccinations had caught us up recently. Edited April 27, 2021 by Melon
Big Blitz Posted April 27, 2021 Posted April 27, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Melon said: Wasn't it 15 days? I think that was #orangemanbad's idea - I recall they couldn't even wait that long. You're worried about the permanent damage indefinite mitigation without stated (constantly moving) metrics are going to do to this country that could be irreversible Outside of never being able to remove our double masks again, can you name a couple examples of the permanent damage you're referring to? Permanent brick and mortar closings Means cities and thus revenue gone Election seasons rife with fraud because it's dangerous Everything will be a public health crisis bc they know you're good ceding power to them. And you are. Loss of learning bc teachers have to play ppe specialists, virtually teach, and teach for the 25% of high school kids that go back in person. They will never recover what's about to be 2 and a half years of a lost life they knew and situation they resent. Loss of socializing as normal....loss of classmates opting virtual. Just Isolation and loss. Psychological and mental health toll on adults and kids....incalculable. Not a number you'll see on CNN. Faith in the system gone because well its racist; 5670 goal posts moves; and lie after lie. Republic over. You might get sick you know. Did I miss anything? Edited April 27, 2021 by Big Blitz
Melon Posted April 27, 2021 Posted April 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said: Permanent brick and mortar closings Means cities and thus revenue gone Care to cite any cities on the brink of collapse? 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said: Election seasons rife with fraud because it's dangerous The 2020 election, in the height of a pandemic, was the most secure in US history 2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Everything will be a public health crisis bc they know you're good ceding power to them. And you are. Everything? It's allergy season and nobody gives a fvck. 2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Loss of learning bc teachers have to play ppe specialists, virtually teach, and teach for the 25% of high school kids that go back in person. They will never recover what's about to be 2 and a half years of a lost life they knew and situation they resent. They will never recover? Who are "they?" The students? The teachers? Very vague here. It's also been 2 years but I'll give you 2 and 1/2 since I know how much you exaggerate things. 5 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Loss of socializing as normal....loss of classmates opting virtual. Just Isolation and loss. Permanent isolation and loss... got it 6 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Psychological and mental health toll on adults and kids....incalculable. Not a number you'll see on CNN. I'll agree here - the psychological and mental health toll on the families of the over 600K Americans who lost a loved one to Covid while half the country screamed HOAX IDGAF is incalculable. 8 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Republic over. You might get sick you know. Wasn't it over when Obama won?
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted April 27, 2021 Posted April 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Permanent brick and mortar closings Means cities and thus revenue gone Election seasons rife with fraud because it's dangerous Everything will be a public health crisis bc they know you're good ceding power to them. And you are. Loss of learning bc teachers have to play ppe specialists, virtually teach, and teach for the 25% of high school kids that go back in person. They will never recover what's about to be 2 and a half years of a lost life they knew and situation they resent. Loss of socializing as normal....loss of classmates opting virtual. Just Isolation and loss. Psychological and mental health toll on adults and kids....incalculable. Not a number you'll see on CNN. Faith in the system gone because well its racist; 5670 goal posts moves; and lie after lie. Republic over. You might get sick you know. Did I miss anything? That's a pretty good start. I acknowledge losing faith in the govt science dudes. I always want to given them the benefit of the doubt, but a govt lifer is a govt lifer.
Melon Posted April 27, 2021 Posted April 27, 2021 Just now, leh-nerd skin-erd said: That's a pretty good start. I acknowledge losing faith in the govt science dudes. I always want to given them the benefit of the doubt, but a govt lifer is a govt lifer. Thought you were one of the few with a brain here. Everything is a public health crisis now? How DAFUQ do you agree with that? Can't even admit a pandemic is/was one.
Big Blitz Posted April 27, 2021 Posted April 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: That's a pretty good start. I acknowledge losing faith in the govt science dudes. I always want to given them the benefit of the doubt, but a govt lifer is a govt lifer. Thank you. They just don't get it. Because I truly now believe they never thought it was super deadly world should stop deadly. They wanted Trump gone and if that did it fine. It's just at the time, 7 plus months to the election. That derangement has clouded all logic and reason. 8 minutes ago, Melon said: Thought you were one of the few with a brain here. Everything is a public health crisis now? You don't follow do you? Namely Guns: https://time.com/5951001/gun-violence-public-health-crisis/#:~:text=We have not approached gun deaths as an issue of public health.&text=From 2014 to 2017%2C death,homicide and suicide increased 10%. Climate Change: https://khn.org/morning-breakout/viewpoints-investing-in-climate-change-for-public-health-how-do-we-fix-the-fentanyl-epidemic/ 8 minutes ago, Melon said: How DAFUQ do you agree with that? Get back to me if you can find more. Poverty and Racism are also on the list.
Melon Posted April 27, 2021 Posted April 27, 2021 (edited) Believe you said the word "everything." You don't need examples for everything. Hence the word - everything Edited April 27, 2021 by Melon
aristocrat Posted April 27, 2021 Posted April 27, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Doc Brown said: Cases will spike in the summer in Florida again as people go indoors to their AC homes and the media will pounce on him again. Are you rooting for cases to spike? And if people are vaccinated why would it spike? Edited April 27, 2021 by aristocrat
B-Man Posted April 27, 2021 Posted April 27, 2021 When will people stop pretending that any of this has anything to do with "the science?" Full on virtue signaling and fear mongering at this point. 1
Big Blitz Posted April 27, 2021 Posted April 27, 2021 Pandemic lockdown came with most fatal drug overdoses Virginia’s ever seen, new data show https://www.pilotonline.com/news/health/vp-nw-2020-drug-overdose-update-20210427-kqnvlloz25aktncdbu6gilpz5y-story.html #Allinthistogether
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted April 27, 2021 Posted April 27, 2021 18 minutes ago, Melon said: Thought you were one of the few with a brain here. Everything is a public health crisis now? How DAFUQ do you agree with that? Can't even admit a pandemic is/was one. You have a right to question my intellect, what conclusion you reach is not really my concern. You're not the first to question it, I'll gut it out and see it through. I'm assuming that since you only referenced "everything is a public health crisis" that you agree with everything else on the list? My point was simply that there is certainly credence to what @Big Blitz shares. While I'm certainly not in agreement with everything he suggests, I respect his willingness to do the heavy lifting on many of these issues. No, I don't think everything is a public health crisis. Athlete's foot, for example, is not and I don't see the government turning our lives upside down over it any time soon. I do see this pandemic and the way death and disease was tracked as problematic and manipulative. I followed protocol, distanced, avoided, masked, sanitized my hands like Dr Jill at a tonsillectomy, ***** down travel, avoided visiting with elderly members of my family and watch as the world shut down. I got my vaxx. I knew people who got sick and in a few cases, some who got really sick, and in a few more, some that died. Still, I've had this burning question about masses of people gathering to demonstrate and nary a word about the massive and irresponsible danger that those gatherings posed to us all. I watched Fauci shrug his shoulders and behave like a mousey school marm as what we were being told (science dudes) and what was being done conflicted. Never made sense to me, either they were willing to stand idly by and let the virus rage then, or they knew the near complete lockdown then was a waste of time. Now suddenly, maybe outside stuff is ok. Whatever. 50 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Thank you. They just don't get it. Because I truly now believe they never thought it was super deadly world should stop deadly. They wanted Trump gone and if that did it fine. It's just at the time, 7 plus months to the election. That derangement has clouded all logic and reason. You don't follow do you? Namely Guns: https://time.com/5951001/gun-violence-public-health-crisis/#:~:text=We have not approached gun deaths as an issue of public health.&text=From 2014 to 2017%2C death,homicide and suicide increased 10%. Climate Change: https://khn.org/morning-breakout/viewpoints-investing-in-climate-change-for-public-health-how-do-we-fix-the-fentanyl-epidemic/ Get back to me if you can find more. Poverty and Racism are also on the list. As I said in my reply, it's not that I agree with everything as you've outlined over the past few months, but what you've said makes sense in many cases.
Melon Posted April 27, 2021 Posted April 27, 2021 Logical fallacies typically make sense on the surface hence the reason many dimwits use them to reason their arguments. 1
Chef Jim Posted April 27, 2021 Posted April 27, 2021 56 minutes ago, B-Man said: When will people stop pretending that any of this has anything to do with "the science?" Full on virtue signaling and fear mongering at this point. And for those of us not vaccinated?
Unforgiven Posted April 27, 2021 Posted April 27, 2021 41 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: And for those of us not vaccinated? Make you pin a mask shape on your shirt?
SoCal Deek Posted April 27, 2021 Posted April 27, 2021 What is any of this even about anymore? We’ve recorded millions of cases across the United States over more than a year now, and there is as close to ZERO difference in the mortality rate as would statistically possible from State to State even with completely different public regulations and recommendations. Whatever social behaviors and habits that these expert clowns are so sure works, is definitely not the answer. Go get vaccinated and let’s leave all of this behavioral nonsense to the wayside. 1
Big Blitz Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 Of course we need to *debunk* MIT!!! The MIT study that said social distancing does little to stop COVID-19 indoors didn't look at the main way the virus spreads https://www.businessinsider.com/social-distancing-6-feet-rule-indoors-mit-study-huge-caveats-2021-4 CHINA.......
Big Blitz Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 2 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: As I said in my reply, it's not that I agree with everything as you've outlined over the past few months, but what you've said makes sense in many cases. I fully expect most of the board to think I'm insane, ridiculous or both when it comes to Covid. 1 1
Doc Brown Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 3 hours ago, aristocrat said: Are you rooting for cases to spike? And if people are vaccinated why would it spike? Of course not. I want everyone vaccinated. I said last summer and defended FL, TX, AZ, etc. that it's the weather stupid. Outdated heating and AC units combined with people staying indoors more makes it more likely to spread. 5 hours ago, Big Blitz said: I'm the guy here to constantly tell you the permanent damage indefinite mitigation without stated (constantly moving) metrics are going to do to this country that could be irreversible I don't know. You seem to be taking this rationally.
dpberr Posted April 28, 2021 Posted April 28, 2021 3 hours ago, B-Man said: When will people stop pretending that any of this has anything to do with "the science?" Full on virtue signaling and fear mongering at this point. I had to laugh when "fully vaxed" President Biden walked to the podium on this gorgeous day with the mask on...and nobody around him. 1
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