Buffalo_Gal Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 Makes me wonder how much of the bureaucracy and red tape we can do away with once the hysteria is over? (thread) note: the factory is in China. They are shipping to NYS. 4 1
Numark3 Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) 19 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: From a FB post: I talked to a man today I talked with a man today, an 80+ year old man. I asked him if there was anything I can get him while this Coronavirus scare was gripping America. He simply smiled, looked away and said: "Let me tell you what I need! I need to believe, at some point, this country my generation fought for... I need to believe this nation we handed safely to our children and their children... I need to know this generation will quit being a bunch of sissies...that they respect what they've been given...that they've earned what others sacrificed for." I wasn't sure where the conversation was going or if it was going anywhere at all. So, I sat there, quietly observing. "You know, I was a little boy during WWII. Those were scary days. We didn't know if we were going to be speaking English, German or Japanese at the end of the war. There was no certainty, no guarantees like Americans enjoy today. And no home went without sacrifice or loss. Every house, up and down every street, had someone in harm's way. Maybe their Daddy was a soldier, maybe their son was a sailor, maybe it was an uncle. Sometimes it was the whole damn family...fathers, sons, uncles... Having someone, you love, sent off to war...it wasn't less frightening than it is today. It was scary as Hell. If anything, it was more frightening. We didn't have battle front news. We didn't have email or cellphones. You sent them away and you hoped...you prayed. You may not hear from them for months, if ever. Sometimes a mother was getting her son's letters the same day Dad was comforting her over their child's death. And we sacrificed. You couldn't buy things. Everything was rationed. You were only allowed so much milk per month, only so much bread, toilet paper. EVERYTHING was restricted for the war effort. And what you weren't using, what you didn't need, things you threw away, they were saved and sorted for the war effort. My generation was the original recycling movement in America. And we had viruses back then...serious viruses. Things like polio, measles, and such. It was nothing to walk to school and pass a house or two that was quarantined. We didn't shut down our schools. We didn't shut down our cities. We carried on, without masks, without hand sanitizer. And do you know what? We persevered. We overcame. We didn't attack our President, we came together. We rallied around the flag for the war. Thick or thin, we were in it to win. And we would lose more boys in an hour of combat than we lose in entire wars today." He slowly looked away again. Maybe I saw a small tear in the corner of his eye. Then he continued: "Today's kids don't know sacrifice. They think a sacrifice is not having coverage on their phone while they freely drive across the country. Today's kids are selfish and spoiled. In my generation, we looked out for our elders. We helped out with single moms who's husbands were either at war or dead from war. Today's kids rush the store, buying everything they can...no concern for anyone but themselves. It's shameful the way Americans behave these days. None of them deserve the sacrifices their granddads made. So, no I don't need anything. I appreciate your offer but, I know I've been through worse things than this virus. But maybe I should be asking you, what can I do to help you? Do you have enough pop to get through this, enough steak? Will you be able to survive with 113 channels on your tv?" I smiled, fighting back a tear of my own...now humbled by a man in his 80's. All I could do was thank him for the history lesson, leave my number for emergency and leave with my ego firmly tucked in my rear. I talked to a man today. A real man. An American man from an era long gone and forgotten. We will never understand the sacrifices. We will never fully earn their sacrifices. But we should work harder to learn about them..learn from them...to respect them. Is anyone (besides our very dumb 3rdnlong) actually dumb enough to believe this is a true story? Good lord, people will post anything to FB to get it shared Edited March 21, 2020 by Crayola64
fansince88 Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 48 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Makes me wonder how much of the bureaucracy and red tape we can do away with once the hysteria is over? (thread) note: the factory is in China. They are shipping to NYS. Actually the President announced today that (I believe it was Hanes) the underwear company was refitting their factory to make facemasks instead. Que the mass hysteria of people not buying toilet paper and now buying out underwear 2 1
whatdrought Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 14 minutes ago, fansince88 said: Actually the President announced today that (I believe it was Hanes) the underwear company was refitting their factory to make facemasks instead. Que the mass hysteria of people not buying toilet paper and now buying out underwear Well, If you don’t have enough of the first, you better get enough of the second.... 4
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: I’m not trying to be unreasonable, but unless I missed something, it does not appear that it’s even been determined her death was caused by the virus? At the risk of sounding insensitive, she felt she had a cold, was certainly concerned about the virus.....5 day gap and she is found dead on the floor and therefor it’s obviously coronavirus?
CoudyBills Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 https://www.foxnews.com/media/bloomberg-news-warns-2-grams-of-trumps-touted-virus-drug-can-kill-critics-point-out-2-grams-of-any-drug-can-as-well More bs from the media. Unreal. 2
TPS Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 4 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: https://medium.com/six-four-six-nine/evidence-over-hysteria-covid-19-1b767def5894 Really, you're linking some guy's blog post? I wish he would've started with this paragraph instead of ending... Quote You may ask yourself. Who is this guy? Who is this author? I’m a nobody. I'll focus on one point. There is a figure posted that compares "case fatality rates" for the flu vs the virus but he doesn't really address the dramatic difference that screams out from that figure--the CFR is 2.3% for the virus vs. 0.1% for the flue. There is an interval given that states the CFR for the virus is somewhere between 12 and 24 times higher. Let's see, nanker posted earlier today that 80,000 people died from the flu, which makes that interval 960,000 to 1.92 million....
meazza Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 Not that I’m a big proponent of comparing this to the flu but how many more would die if people wouldn’t take the flu vaccine ? 1
Doc Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 16 minutes ago, meazza said: Not that I’m a big proponent of comparing this to the flu but how many more would die if people wouldn’t take the flu vaccine ? Certainly many more. And yet tens of thousands die every year despite millions of people getting the vaccine. 1
Foxx Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 52 minutes ago, TPS said: Really, you're linking some guy's blog post? I wish he would've started with this paragraph instead of ending... I'll focus on one point. There is a figure posted that compares "case fatality rates" for the flu vs the virus but he doesn't really address the dramatic difference that screams out from that figure--the CFR is 2.3% for the virus vs. 0.1% for the flue. There is an interval given that states the CFR for the virus is somewhere between 12 and 24 times higher. Let's see, nanker posted earlier today that 80,000 people died from the flu, which makes that interval 960,000 to 1.92 million.... no way in hell can you have an accurate CFR in the States right now. the only real number of cases showing up are those who are very ill from the virus, which dramatically inflates the current CFR. those who have contracted it and are showing little symptoms will not seek out medical assistance and therefore not be counted. 4
Artful Dodger Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, Foxx said: no way in hell can you have an accurate CFR in the States right now. the only real number of cases showing up are those who are very ill from the virus, which dramatically inflates the current CFR. those who have contracted it and are showing little symptoms will not seek out medical assistance and therefore not be counted. 800 people died in Italy today from the CoronaVirus. That's a big number no matter how you look at it. 600 died yesterday; 400 died the day before. Yesterday, 221 people died in the US from the CoronaVirus. 172 died two days ago; 122 died three days ago. Are you starting to see a pattern here? 1
Foxx Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Artful Dodger said: 800 people died in Italy today from the CoronaVirus. That's a big number no matter how you look at it. 600 died yesterday; 400 died the day before. Yesterday, 221 people died in the US from the CoronaVirus. 172 died two days ago; 122 died three days ago. Are you starting to see a pattern here? holy crap..... did you even read my post or the one i responded to for context? in what way does your response add to that chain?
TPS Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 36 minutes ago, Foxx said: no way in hell can you have an accurate CFR in the States right now. the only real number of cases showing up are those who are very ill from the virus, which dramatically inflates the current CFR. those who have contracted it and are showing little symptoms will not seek out medical assistance and therefore not be counted. You are correct about the States, which is why they used the data from China. 24 minutes ago, Artful Dodger said: 800 people died in Italy today from the CoronaVirus. That's a big number no matter how you look at it. 600 died yesterday; 400 died the day before. Yesterday, 221 people died in the US from the CoronaVirus. 172 died two days ago; 122 died three days ago. Are you starting to see a pattern here? The total deaths in the US are 300 so far, so not sure where you got those numbers. 1
lokkines Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 Hy guys, cheer from a Bills fan from italy. first of all sorry for my english, I did't read all the message in this topic, but please, stay safe.. just for explain the situation here, the mortality of this virus is really high in "old" people with some other pathology (medium age of ppl died in italy are 80Yo) the real problem is the aggressivity of the contagium, that cause the collapse of emergency service, no more bed in hospital.... from tomorrow here, all service will be closed, for 15 days,except medical and food service... su be careefull dont understimate the danger of the situation!! hope we will cheer togheter for bills soon 11 3
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 13 minutes ago, lokkines said: Hy guys, cheer from a Bills fan from italy. first of all sorry for my english, I did't read all the message in this topic, but please, stay safe.. just for explain the situation here, the mortality of this virus is really high in "old" people with some other pathology (medium age of ppl died in italy are 80Yo) the real problem is the aggressivity of the contagium, that cause the collapse of emergency service, no more bed in hospital.... from tomorrow here, all service will be closed, for 15 days,except medical and food service... su be careefull dont understimate the danger of the situation!! hope we will cheer togheter for bills soon Keep safe man. I heard or read lots of site 67 medium age. Heard or read Italy has lots of younger people in the ICU. Feel for everyone there. Let's go Buffalo Bills lol. Glad Tom Brady outta of the division.
PaoloBillsFanFromItaly Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 Ciao lokkines, di dove sei???? Spero tutto bene da te, qui a Genova la situazione è ancora sotto controllo, ma ci prepariamo all'onda. Ho scritto anche un post qua sul mio ultimo giorno in ufficio. GO BILLS!!! 25 minutes ago, lokkines said: Hy guys, cheer from a Bills fan from italy. first of all sorry for my english, I did't read all the message in this topic, but please, stay safe.. just for explain the situation here, the mortality of this virus is really high in "old" people with some other pathology (medium age of ppl died in italy are 80Yo) the real problem is the aggressivity of the contagium, that cause the collapse of emergency service, no more bed in hospital.... from tomorrow here, all service will be closed, for 15 days,except medical and food service... su be careefull dont understimate the danger of the situation!! hope we will cheer togheter for bills soon Ciao lokkines, di dove sei???? Spero tutto bene da te, qui a Genova la situazione è ancora sotto controllo, ma ci prepariamo all'onda. Ho scritto anche un post qua sul mio ultimo giorno in ufficio. GO BILLS!!!
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