leh-nerd skin-erd Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, B-Man said: Is it me or are celebs getting fuglier in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 2 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I’ve read quite a few reports that cynicism regarding vaccines runs quite high in the black community in general. Yep. I know several people that have referenced the Tuskegee Airmen as reasons why they won't get it. And good for them. But Trump voters! Absolutely ridiculous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Yep. I know several people that have referenced the Tuskegee Airmen as reasons why they won't get it. And good for them. But Trump voters! Absolutely ridiculous. Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 2 hours ago, 716er said: I swear two weeks ago Bill Blitz was going on and on about how this would never end and masks are FOREVER!!!!! Glad Biden is doing what he can to move us forward despite the stupidity in this country highlighted by that dude in this thread. Did I miss the memo mitigation (masks, 6 feet--or is it 3 now) was coming to an end and the kids will have their childhood's back? Until then, it's indefinite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Did I miss the memo mitigation (masks, 6 feet--or is it 3 now) was coming to an end and the kids will have their childhood's back? Until then, it's indefinite. No. Lord Fauci poo-pooed that study. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Did I miss the memo mitigation (masks, 6 feet--or is it 3 now) was coming to an end and the kids will have their childhood's back? Until then, it's indefinite. Not indefinite, just until President Biden tells you what you can and cannot do. Sit tight until July-ish. Plus or minus. More or less. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 17 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Until then, it's indefinite. The ol' oxymoron from the ol' moron. 14 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Not indefinite, just until President Biden tells you what you can and cannot do. Sit tight until July-ish. Plus or minus. More or less. The last one told us Easter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 1 minute ago, 716er said: The ol' oxymoron from the ol' moron. I asked for your source I missed the memo. If not, stick your neck out, make a prediction. 50 million kids....how many are you going to let become ccompletely lost or suicidal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 13 minutes ago, 716er said: The last one told us Easter. And now one year later, it looks like he was right. This whole thing has been one big cluster _____. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 33 minutes ago, 716er said: The ol' oxymoron from the ol' moron. The last one told us Easter. Did you question that? Rhetorical question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraps Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: How did you come to the conclusion that white male Rs are skeptical (I’m assuming by that we mean “won’t get it”)? I’ve read quite a few reports that cynicism regarding vaccines runs quite high in the black community in general. I shared this poll last week. The answer Fauci gave was in response to question Chris Wallace asked citing a poll from NPR. "Among Republican men, 49% said they did not plan to get the shot, compared with just 6% of Democratic men who said the same. Among those who said they supported President Trump in the 2020 election, 47% said they did not plan to get a coronavirus vaccine compared with just 10% of Biden supporters." Fauci didn't go out to criticize Trump in the interview. He answered a question. He also gave Trump kudos for operation warp speed. 5 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I’ve become highly skeptical of the information that Das Fauci shares, and know many people of various political ideology that are cautious of the vaccine due to the speed it was developed. However, the general consensus in my admittedly small circle is that they will get vaccinated. I think Fauci is held to an absurd standard. It is a novel virus. Opinions and guidance would be based on knowledge of past respiratory diseases and change as we learn more about the virus. As a result, guidance can and will change over time. Nobody can reasonably pick a date on when the pandemic will end, just like nobody could possibly have predicted VE day would be on May 8 1945 or VJ day would be on August 15 1945 one year into WW II. Big Blitz's demands and whining is just ridiculous. As for skepticism, I get that. Last Fall I would have said I wouldn't trust the vaccine unless Donald Trump, Mike Pence and every appointed member of the Executive Branch were vaccinated first, on TV, by doctors chosen by the MSM. However, I work with a lot of scientists, so I listened to what doctors and scientists were saying about the vaccine and I saw them get the vaccine. That told me they had confidence in the vaccine. I shared last week that half my family are vaccine phobic. They shared some videos from America's Frontline Doctors, an endless source of misinformation that a darlings to the right wing news propaganda stations. I did some fact checking on their claims and am convinced these vaccines are extremely low risk. In fact, I got my first shot earlier today. 2 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Not indefinite, just until President Biden tells you what you can and cannot do. Sit tight until July-ish. Plus or minus. More or less. Are you dumb enough to think anyone can give you and exact date? Edited March 15, 2021 by Scraps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Scraps said: "As for skepticism, I get that. Last Fall I would have said I wouldn't trust the vaccine unless Donald Trump, Mike Pence and every appointed member of the Executive Branch were vaccinated first, on TV, by doctors chosen by the MSM. However, I work with a lot of scientists, so I listened to what doctors and scientists were saying about the vaccine and I saw them get the vaccine. That told me they had confidence in the vaccine. Oh, I see, as long as the Orange Man was President, you didn't trust the vaccine, but now that the Grey Man is President, you do. Well imagine that. No...this isn't political. Of course it's not. You must have talked to the same scientists that Kamala did when she swore on national TV she wouldn't get the vaccines the Trump Administration worked so hard to provide, only to see her be the first one in line to get the shot after the Grey Man took office. Follow the science....my arse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraps Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: Oh, I see, as long as the Orange Man was President, you didn't trust the vaccine, but now that the Grey Man is President, you do. Well imagine that. No...this isn't political. Of course it's not. You must have talked to the same scientists that Kamala did when she swore on national TV she wouldn't get the vaccines the Trump Administration worked so hard to provide, only to see her be the first one in line to get the shot after the Grey Man took office. Follow the science....my arse. Not everything comes down to how somebody feels about Trump. I listened to what scientist and doctors said. I saw their confidence in the vaccines, leading by getting the vaccine. I researched. I learned. I changed my mind. Edited March 16, 2021 by Scraps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Scraps said: I shared this poll last week. The answer Fauci gave was in response to question Chris Wallace asked citing a poll from NPR. "Among Republican men, 49% said they did not plan to get the shot, compared with just 6% of Democratic men who said the same. Among those who said they supported President Trump in the 2020 election, 47% said they did not plan to get a coronavirus vaccine compared with just 10% of Biden supporters." Fauci didn't go out to criticize Trump in the interview. He answered a question. He also gave Trump kudos for operation warp speed. I think Fauci is held to an absurd standard. It is a novel virus. Opinions and guidance would be based on knowledge of past respiratory diseases and change as we learn more about the virus. As a result, guidance can and will change over time. Nobody can reasonably pick a date on when the pandemic will end, just like nobody could possibly have predicted VE day would be on May 8 1945 or VJ day would be on August 15 1945 one year into WW II. Big Blitz's demands and whining is just ridiculous. As for skepticism, I get that. Last Fall I would have said I wouldn't trust the vaccine unless Donald Trump, Mike Pence and every appointed member of the Executive Branch were vaccinated first, on TV, by doctors chosen by the MSM. However, I work with a lot of scientists, so I listened to what doctors and scientists were saying about the vaccine and I saw them get the vaccine. That told me they had confidence in the vaccine. Interesting data, I’m not sure I buy it but I’ll consider it. It’s possible that my point of view is skewed by things I’ve read previously and conversations I’ve had with people I know. I also get the flu vaccine every year, and have for the last ten. I was concerned early on as you apparently were, that this particular vaccine was rushed into production. I plan to get it, my wife signed up as she’s slightly older than me. My plan was simply to wait until higher risk people get vaccinated first. As for Fauci, everyone has an opinion. I think he’s been weak, misleading and I don’t trust him. He’ll be ok in spite of my feelings. Quote I shared last week that half my family are vaccine phobic. They shared some videos from America's Frontline Doctors, an endless source of misinformation that a darlings to the right wing news propaganda stations. I did some fact checking on their claims and am convinced these vaccines are extremely low risk. In fact, I got my first shot earlier today. Best of luck to you. Quote Are you dumb enough to think anyone can give you and exact date? I’m smart enough to know that when someone inserts themself into a conversation, and loads up with a statement designed to be confrontational and insulting, it typically means that individual is dealing with some internal/external conflict secondary to the interaction. It could be the offending individual fashions himself a crusader of sorts, could be he’s having trouble at work or home, could be he strained his neck reading online polls, could be he’s tired of being cooped up during the time of COVID. Heck, it could be—and I’m just flipping biscuits here—could be that gosh darn Daylight Savings Time has him all turned about and grumpy as heck. They say that’s a thing. Hard to say, but in the end it’s irrelevant to me. On the subject referenced, I think the economy is opening regardless of what Biden says when he can string the words together to make sense. I think I complied with governmental mandates and suggestions and as time progressed, have seen enough hypocrisy and stupidity to last a decade or more, so I’ll weigh it out and strike a course that makes sense for me. If hiding in the basement with the lights off until a mid-September presidential update works for others, I can respect that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 6 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I’m smart enough to know that when someone inserts themself into a conversation, and loads up with a statement designed to be confrontational and insulting, it typically means that individual is dealing with some internal/external conflict secondary to the interaction. vs 6 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: If hiding in the basement with the lights off until a mid-September presidential update works for others, I can respect that. Hmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraps Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 6 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: On the subject referenced, I think the economy is opening regardless of what Biden says when he can string the words together to make sense. I think I complied with governmental mandates and suggestions and as time progressed, have seen enough hypocrisy and stupidity to last a decade or more, so I’ll weigh it out and strike a course that makes sense for me. If hiding in the basement with the lights off until a mid-September presidential update works for others, I can respect that. You dodged the question. Do you think anyone can give you an exact date on when this would end and we would return to normal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Scraps said: You dodged the question. Do you think anyone can give you an exact date on when this would end and we would return to normal? First, It’s not up to the President to tell me when I can return to ‘normal’. My rights don’t come from the President, they were endowed by my Creator. Second, yes the President should give Americans some idea of when they believe the recommendations they’ve been giving to a free people will be eased and then eliminated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Scraps said: You dodged the question. Do you think anyone can give you an exact date on when this would end and we would return to normal? I addressed the question you posed previously, and am comfortable with my response. The question you posed here is different. Why is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 (edited) Lol remember that scene in one of the episodes from "You're Being Played" where the teachers said they wouldn't go back into classrooms until there were zero cases for 14 days in the community? That's an all time classic moment. And of course: So was that B.S. about flattening curves. Edited March 16, 2021 by Big Blitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraps Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 48 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I addressed the question you posed previously, and am comfortable with my response. The question you posed here is different. Why is that? I think the question is pretty much the same. Seems like you won't answer, but are comfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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