Big Blitz Posted December 13, 2020 Posted December 13, 2020 (edited) We "counted" 100K deaths from March to May 22. 2 months. In the 6 plus months since, it's 200K.....allegedly. In a nation of 330 million people. Doesn't seem to be in the Spanish Flus universe. No one asking if perhaps virus is doing what viruses do and that's become less lethal but more contagious or should I just accept closing schools and 6 feet mandates as businesses close and kids (who are at 10x greater risk from flu) lives are forever destroyed bc of our inability to think? The issue isn't masks (they aren't working bc the CDC even gives you the clue why right there on their home page but no one cares to ask) it's about a proper response. Kids should be playing sports and in school. Period. You want to put a 12 to 5am curfew in (the virus only works nights apparently) then find do that in your big city and kill it. We warned you in March when 15 days turned to 30. Edited December 13, 2020 by Big Blitz
Scraps Posted December 13, 2020 Posted December 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: We "counted" 100K deaths from March to May 22. 2 months. In the 6 plus months since, it's 200K.....allegedly. In a nation of 330 million people. Doesn't seem to be in the Spanish Flus universe. No one asking if perhaps virus is doing what viruses do and that's become less lethal but more contagious or should I just accept closing schools and 6 feet mandates as businesses close and kids (who are at 10x greater risk from flu) lives are forever destroyed bc of our inability to think? The issue isn't masks (they aren't working bc the CDC even gives you the clue why right there on their home page but no one cares to ask) it's about a proper response. Kids should be playing sports and in school. Period. You want to put a 12 to 5am curfew in (the virus only works nights apparently) then find do that in your big city and kill it. We warned you in March when 15 days turned to 30. Do you only think in terms of death? What about overloading the hospital system? What about longer term consequences of getting the disease. Many people have complications that last months. We don't know if some of the heart issues will be really long term.
SoTier Posted December 13, 2020 Posted December 13, 2020 16 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: And? Edit: Those people aren't dying "every day." Americans are dying at a 3000+ clip every day. Daily Covid-19 deaths 2971 Americans died on 9/11/2001. 2403 Americans died on December 7, 1941.
Big Blitz Posted December 13, 2020 Posted December 13, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Scraps said: Do you only think in terms of death? What about overloading the hospital system? Yes. Let the locality decide what to do but must show us the data. ICU capacity, etc. Quote What about longer term consequences of getting the disease. Many people have complications that last months. We don't know if some of the heart issues will be really long term. Yea don't really care. Going to be years before you figure that out. We do however know what the long term impact will be on our youth failing on average 2 courses or more. Especially those not privileged enough to have parents let alone parents that can telework. Thats one of those goal posts that got moved around May when kids should have been in school. Edited December 13, 2020 by Big Blitz
SoCal Deek Posted December 13, 2020 Posted December 13, 2020 10 hours ago, SoTier said: Americans are dying at a 3000+ clip every day. Daily Covid-19 deaths 2971 Americans died on 9/11/2001. 2403 Americans died on December 7, 1941. On average, over 7,000 Americans die EVERY SINGLE DAY! Comparing Covid to Pearl Harbor is ludicrous. Our current health crisis is not a single event in a single town or place. Sheeesh
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted December 13, 2020 Posted December 13, 2020 (edited) In my county. A 24 age passed away from covid RIP. Youngest by far in our county for deaths. 24-year-old dies from COVID-19 The health department says the 24-year-old man experienced a "cardiac event and was unable to overcome his illness despite aggressive medical treatment." Edited December 13, 2020 by Buffalo Bills Fan
FireChans Posted December 13, 2020 Posted December 13, 2020 18 hours ago, SoTier said: Americans are dying at a 3000+ clip every day. Daily Covid-19 deaths 2971 Americans died on 9/11/2001. 2403 Americans died on December 7, 1941. 8 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: On average, over 7,000 Americans die EVERY SINGLE DAY! Comparing Covid to Pearl Harbor is ludicrous. Our current health crisis is not a single event in a single town or place. Sheeesh Just wait til he finds out 2.9M Americans died last year. That's like...... 1000 9/11's!
Big Blitz Posted December 13, 2020 Posted December 13, 2020 15 days turned into "till 2022" with absolute ZERO interest in demanding justification from the media
FireChans Posted December 14, 2020 Posted December 14, 2020 Do you guys remember the NY victory lap in June?
Big Blitz Posted December 14, 2020 Posted December 14, 2020 1 hour ago, FireChans said: Do you guys remember the NY victory lap in June? I wonder if anyone has given Cuomo a copy of his book on "leadership" so he can try and figure out how to end the outbreak. 1
shoshin Posted December 14, 2020 Posted December 14, 2020 2 hours ago, FireChans said: Do you guys remember the NY victory lap in June? Yes, I also remember posters here telling us how this was going to bottom out, T cell immunity, etc. They have all gone into hiding.
FireChans Posted December 14, 2020 Posted December 14, 2020 1 minute ago, shoshin said: Yes, I also remember posters here telling us how this was going to bottom out, T cell immunity, etc. They have all gone into hiding. I guess lockdowns really didn't work.
shoshin Posted December 14, 2020 Posted December 14, 2020 1 minute ago, FireChans said: I guess lockdowns really didn't work. Or they did, then they got lifted. I am against them BTW.
FireChans Posted December 14, 2020 Posted December 14, 2020 Just now, shoshin said: Or they did, then they got lifted. I am against them BTW. A lockdown that only works if you never leave lockdown, doesn't work.
Backintheday544 Posted December 14, 2020 Posted December 14, 2020 25 minutes ago, shoshin said: Yes, I also remember posters here telling us how this was going to bottom out, T cell immunity, etc. They have all gone into hiding. Remember the posters that said more people would die by suicide/alcohol abuse during a lockdown than of COVID?
SoCal Deek Posted December 14, 2020 Posted December 14, 2020 11 hours ago, FireChans said: A lockdown that only works if you never leave lockdown, doesn't work. This!
Scraps Posted December 14, 2020 Posted December 14, 2020 13 hours ago, FireChans said: A lockdown that only works if you never leave lockdown, doesn't work. It works to reduce the level of virus to the point where widespread testing coupled with effective contact tracing and responsible quarantines on exposed individuals allows society to continue. Unfortunately, we reduced the amount of virus somewhat and then just opened up without the latter mechanisms in place. 2
shoshin Posted December 14, 2020 Posted December 14, 2020 13 hours ago, FireChans said: A lockdown that only works if you never leave lockdown, doesn't work. Wrong but you don't care. 1
SoCal Deek Posted December 14, 2020 Posted December 14, 2020 16 minutes ago, Scraps said: It works to reduce the level of virus to the point where widespread testing coupled with effective contact tracing and responsible quarantines on exposed individuals allows society to continue. Unfortunately, we reduced the amount of virus somewhat and then just opened up without the latter mechanisms in place. We opened up? When? There’s been virtually ZERO changed in any significant public policy across California in nearly six months.
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