The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19

[Warcodered]

11 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

The people behind these policies are going to be judged very harshly by history.  Not just because they have permanently altered and destroyed the lives and development of our kids that their narcissism won't allow them to see.  But because we did it based on how the Commies do it in one small area of their country.  This gift from China was airborne globally in December and we let the "experts" many of which are over 65 dictate what we absolutely must do without evidence the policies work.  

 

 

 

If your first reaction to these stories is "we could have stopped this virus if not for....."

 

You're a seriously delusional individual.

 

If anything, that thought should end with "China."  The WHO is also acceptable.

 

Anyone advocating this is one or maybe all of the following:

 

1. Government employee on salary 

2. Has no kids between ages 4 and 15

3. Is just an irrational data denying dupe 

 

 

 

I will say....in my opinion it is NOT the lockdown distancing policies themselves that are destroying our kids.

 

Its that they are presented in a way by our horrific detestable elitist leaders that don't understand how hopeless they make everything sound.  No justification.  No goals.  Doom and gloom media 24/7.

 

Trump said we'd be open by Easter in the darkest hour of this thing and he was VILLIFIED for it.  That's how sick these people are.    

yep think of the kids.

 

[Big Blitz]

5 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

yep think of the kids.

 

 

 

Yep I think of the data:

 

 

 

So is half the country.  

 

 

 

[Big Blitz]

CFR and IFR plummeting. 

 

Personally I think this could be why they're pushing the vaccines so quick.  We're treating it better, more are surviving, immunity could be decades after you get it, and it could just burn out at that rate naturally by spring but.....question nothing...

 

 

 

[Warcodered]

7 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Yep I think of the data:

 

 

but not under 50.

[shoshin]

6 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

There you go!  Nice! 
 

Russia investigation, sham! 

Surveillance of presidential candidates/weaponization of Intelligence, bad! 
Impeachment grift, sham!  
 

How come we only get to puppet dictator status when the courts are involved?  
 

 

Now we are getting somewhere. Surprised you supported the Russia investigations. It’s their right to drag out months of claims after all. 

[Doc Brown]

 

2 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

CFR and IFR plummeting. 

 

Personally I think this could be why they're pushing the vaccines so quick.  We're treating it better, more are surviving, immunity could be decades after you get it, and it could just burn out at that rate naturally by spring but.....question nothing...

 

 

 

I disagree with you on the mask mandate along with how much Trump is to blame for the high US death rate compared to most other countries but for god sakes looking at this data...... OPEN THE DAMN SCHOOLS.

Edited December 9, 2020 by Doc Brown

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

52 minutes ago, shoshin said:

Now we are getting somewhere. Surprised you supported the Russia investigations. It’s their right to drag out months of claims after all. 

I support the process, I always did. As an analogy, I support law enforcement and our system of justice, but I do not support malicious prosecution.  
 

I’m just surprised at what you seem to be comfortable with politically as it relates to what you referred to as puppet dictatorships.  Where does the “sham” impeachment of a President fall on your scale?  

[shoshin]

9 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

I support the process, I always did. As an analogy, I support law enforcement and our system of justice, but I do not support malicious prosecution.  

 

And multiple cases getting bombed out of court with a circus show of baseless press conferences attacking democratic foundations by a sitting president is not malicious?

 

Sure I’m happy the courts have held firm and upheld democracy. But let’s not applaud the dictator tactics that put the democracy to the test. That’s ridiculous. 

 

9 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

 

I’m just surprised at what you seem to be comfortable with politically as it relates to what you referred to as puppet dictatorships.  Where does the “sham” impeachment of a President fall on your scale?  

The inquiry on the Ukraine call? Valid. What he did was disturbing. Impeachment? Terrible. Many aspects of Russia investigation? Abhorrent. 
 

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

1 hour ago, shoshin said:

 

And multiple cases getting bombed out of court with a circus show of baseless press conferences attacking democratic foundations by a sitting president is not malicious?

 

Sure I’m happy the courts have held firm and upheld democracy. But let’s not applaud the dictator tactics that put the democracy to the test. That’s ridiculous. 

 

The inquiry on the Ukraine call? Valid. What he did was disturbing. Impeachment? Terrible. Many aspects of Russia investigation? Abhorrent. 
 

 

Interesting. 
 

What aspects of the Russia investigation were particularly abhorrent to you?  You indicated “many”, but just indulge me and hit me with two or three.  
 

 

[SoCal Deek]

11 hours ago, shoshin said:

I take it you were a fan of the Russia inquiry and impeachment proceedings then. Just checks and balances at work right?

 

Challenging the system with baseless allegations not rooted in evidence by a sitting president should not be something anyone advocates for. Especially when the accusations he makes publicly make it nowhere near the courts. That’s what puppet dictators do.

 

 Challenging the system by surveillance presidential candidates, same. 
 

The Ukraine inquiry had legs IMO but the impeachment was a sham. 

Thanks for the response 

My point is a simple one. Let the system do it’s job. Let the process work. All of these election challenges will play themselves out in due time. Just like the Russia Hoax, just like the Ukrainian debacle, this is all just inside baseball squabbling between two sides engaged in a political tug of war. Is it ugly? Yes it is. Is one side totally to blame? No, they’re not. It’s the result of the country reaching yet another philosophical governing crossroads. We’ve been through it before and survived for over 200 years. 

[Scraps]

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

Thanks for the response 

My point is a simple one. Let the system do it’s job. Let the process work. All of these election challenges will play themselves out in due time. Just like the Russia Hoax, just like the Ukrainian debacle, this is all just inside baseball squabbling between two sides engaged in a political tug of war. Is it ugly? Yes it is. Is one side totally to blame? No, they’re not. It’s the result of the country reaching yet another philosophical governing crossroads. We’ve been through it before and survived for over 200 years. 

 

The process has played itself out.  Trump L-L-LOST.  Pressuring governors or legislatures to disenfranchise their citizens is not part of the process.  The Republicons are reducing our country to a Banana Republic.

[SoTier]

5 minutes ago, Scraps said:

 

The process has played itself out.  Trump L-L-LOST.  Pressuring governors or legislatures to disenfranchise their citizens is not part of the process.  The Republicons are reducing our country to a Banana Republic.

 

The SCOTUS refused unanimously and out of hand to even consider Trump's case from PA.  Point.  Set.  Match.   Time for the Trumplicans to fold their tents and slink away to their bunkers.  

[shoshin]

 

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

3 hours ago, Scraps said:

 

The process has played itself out.  Trump L-L-LOST.  Pressuring governors or legislatures to disenfranchise their citizens is not part of the process.  The Republicons are reducing our country to a Banana Republic.

And one day, when you're in officially in charge of the country, you can run it that way.  Until then, we'll stick the processes we have in place, and you're just going to have be patient. As it's often said, politics is a messy business. You'll recall that many Democrats actually held out right through the inauguration in 2016, with many of them boycotting the event. I cannot see the Republicans doing the same.

[Big Blitz]

Its all good.....just a "rough spot" and if you have "significant (not clear what means) allergies" don't take it:

 

 

 

"Health Canada approved the same Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine on Wednesday that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration could authorize for emergency-use here within days or even hours.

 

The vaccine is already being rolled out across Britain, where it encountered its first rough spot – health officials there have decreed that people with a “significant history” of allergic reactions shouldn’t get the vaccine pending further investigation. British health officials say the duo is "recovering well" and that the directive was precautionary."

 

Linked from  www.msn.com

Edited December 9, 2020 by Big Blitz

[shoshin]

27 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

Its all good.....just a "rough spot" and if you have "significant (not clear what means) allergies" don't take it:

 

 

 

"Health Canada approved the same Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine on Wednesday that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration could authorize for emergency-use here within days or even hours.

 

The vaccine is already being rolled out across Britain, where it encountered its first rough spot – health officials there have decreed that people with a “significant history” of allergic reactions shouldn’t get the vaccine pending further investigation. British health officials say the duo is "recovering well" and that the directive was precautionary."

 

Linked from  www.msn.com

 

Maybe this is why Trump didn't buy more doses of it. 

[Doc Brown]

40 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

Its all good.....just a "rough spot" and if you have "significant (not clear what means) allergies" don't take it:

 

 

 

"Health Canada approved the same Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine on Wednesday that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration could authorize for emergency-use here within days or even hours.

 

The vaccine is already being rolled out across Britain, where it encountered its first rough spot – health officials there have decreed that people with a “significant history” of allergic reactions shouldn’t get the vaccine pending further investigation. British health officials say the duo is "recovering well" and that the directive was precautionary."

 

Linked from  www.msn.com

I like that they're the guinea pigs.

[SoCal Deek]

8 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

I like that they're the guinea pigs.

The entire world is one humongous laboratory on this. Covid 19 is not a US problem. It’s a global problem.

[RiotAct]

PA Governor Tom Wolf tested positive today.

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/09/pennsylvania-gov-tom-wolf-tests-positive-for-covid-and-is-isolating-at-home.html

[Doc Brown]

6 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

The entire world is one humongous laboratory on this. Covid 19 is not a US problem. It’s a global problem.

Economically.  Yes.  There are large variations by country though as far as the spread.  Japan only has 2,334 deaths with a population of 126 million.  We've had that many deaths in a day.