ALF Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 US says nearly 300,000 excess deaths in 2020 as COVID-19 rages CDC analysis shows excess deaths were highest among Hispanic and Black people, and those aged between 25 and 44. The CDC said 299,028 more people died between January 26 and October 3 than the average numbers from the previous four years (2015 – 2019) would have indicated. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/10/21/us-reports-300000-more-deaths-in-2020-than-during-typical-year
SoCal Deek Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 13 minutes ago, ALF said: CDC analysis shows excess deaths were highest among Hispanic and Black people, and those aged between 25 and 44. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/10/21/us-reports-300000-more-deaths-in-2020-than-during-typical-year So...what we’re learning is that all those new Hispanic and Black Trump voters need to pay more attention to mask wearing? Got it! 1
spartacus Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, ALF said: US says nearly 300,000 excess deaths in 2020 as COVID-19 rages CDC analysis shows excess deaths were highest among Hispanic and Black people, and those aged between 25 and 44. The CDC said 299,028 more people died between January 26 and October 3 than the average numbers from the previous four years (2015 – 2019) would have indicated. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/10/21/us-reports-300000-more-deaths-in-2020-than-during-typical-year excess deaths is a model projecting what deaths should have been in 2020 yet actual deaths are in line with last 3 years that's what happens when all other deaths are coded as Covid Edited October 21, 2020 by spartacus 1
Gary M Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, spartacus said: excess deaths is a model projecting what deaths should have been 20 20230 yet actual deaths are in line with last 3 years that's what happens when all other deaths are coded as Covid Glad you found it, I was looking
ALF Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 The CDC report that was just released Excess Deaths Associated with COVID-19, by Age and Race and Ethnicity — United States, January 26–October 3, 2020 Early Release / October 20, 2020 / 69 https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm?s_cid=mm6942e2_w
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 ...???...pretty interesting....a Covid-19 deterrent already on the shelf?...... Human coronaviruses ‘inactivated’ by mouthwash, oral rinses: study The study's results were published in the Journal of Medical Virology By Madeline Farber | Fox News A new study conducted by researchers at the Penn State College of Medicine has found that a common dental item can inactivate human coronaviruses: mouthwash and oral rinses. For the study, the results of which were published in the Journal of Medical Virology, researchers tested various oral and nasopharyngeal rinses — which included a 1% solution of baby shampoo, a neti pot, peroxide sore-mouth cleansers, and mouthwashes — to determine how well they inactivated human coronaviruses. The baby shampoo solution, “which is often used by head and neck doctors to rinse the sinuses,” the researchers noted in a news release regarding the findings, was particularly effective; the solution inactivated “greater than 99.9% of human coronavirus after a two-minute contact time,” they said. The mouthwash and oral rinses were also efficacious, they found: "Many inactivated greater than 99.9% of virus after only 30 seconds of contact time and some inactivated 99.99% of the virus after 30 seconds.” https://www.foxnews.com/health/human-coronaviruses-inactivated-mouthwash-oral-rinses-study
New Improved DC Tom Posted October 22, 2020 Posted October 22, 2020 3 hours ago, ALF said: The CDC report that was just released Excess Deaths Associated with COVID-19, by Age and Race and Ethnicity — United States, January 26–October 3, 2020 Early Release / October 20, 2020 / 69 https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm?s_cid=mm6942e2_w That's a very incomplete study.
SoCal Deek Posted October 22, 2020 Posted October 22, 2020 Interesting milestone: Yesterday, Texas passed California for the most total cases since the start of the pandemic. NY of course held the top spot for many months and was surpassed over the summer by the Big Three southern states, but due solely to population. Even now, after seven plus months of this, the deaths per million in TX, CA and FL aren’t even at half the rate in the NY metro area states.
spartacus Posted October 22, 2020 Posted October 22, 2020 On 10/19/2020 at 7:45 PM, B-Man said: SO I GUESS WE DID THINGS PERFECTLY: March 30, 2020: Dr. Birx predicts up to 200,000 U.S. coronavirus deaths ‘if we do things almost perfectly’. 2 1
spartacus Posted October 22, 2020 Posted October 22, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 8:26 AM, SoCal Deek said: Yes and no. The virus is a contagious disease that moves through the population once infected. We’ve seen it move across the country from state to state. It’s yet to wipe out anything, anywhere. There’s no doubt there are areas that’ll take their turn next , but thankfully we’re much better at treating it now than we were in March. Instead of serving as a bulwark against a nationwide outbreak, New York became "Grand Central station" in the spread of the virus across the US, an outbreak that is now working its way across the Midwest. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/how-cuomos-missteps-allowed-covid-19-overwhelm-us
Kemp Posted October 22, 2020 Posted October 22, 2020 Yesterday, America had the most COVID-19 deaths since August. I wonder what Trump means when he says we have turned the corner on the virus?
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 22, 2020 Posted October 22, 2020 56 minutes ago, spartacus said: Instead of serving as a bulwark against a nationwide outbreak, New York became "Grand Central station" in the spread of the virus across the US, an outbreak that is now working its way across the Midwest. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/how-cuomos-missteps-allowed-covid-19-overwhelm-us ...8,000 Chinese nationals passed through Big Fredoland AFTER Trump banned travel from China.....so NYC was THE Gateway to the entire US......maybe he explains why in his new Covid-19 Handbook, now on sale at your local 7-Eleven........ 1 1
Penfield45 Posted October 23, 2020 Posted October 23, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 5:12 PM, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...???...pretty interesting....a Covid-19 deterrent already on the shelf?...... Human coronaviruses ‘inactivated’ by mouthwash, oral rinses: study The study's results were published in the Journal of Medical Virology By Madeline Farber | Fox News A new study conducted by researchers at the Penn State College of Medicine has found that a common dental item can inactivate human coronaviruses: mouthwash and oral rinses. For the study, the results of which were published in the Journal of Medical Virology, researchers tested various oral and nasopharyngeal rinses — which included a 1% solution of baby shampoo, a neti pot, peroxide sore-mouth cleansers, and mouthwashes — to determine how well they inactivated human coronaviruses. The baby shampoo solution, “which is often used by head and neck doctors to rinse the sinuses,” the researchers noted in a news release regarding the findings, was particularly effective; the solution inactivated “greater than 99.9% of human coronavirus after a two-minute contact time,” they said. The mouthwash and oral rinses were also efficacious, they found: "Many inactivated greater than 99.9% of virus after only 30 seconds of contact time and some inactivated 99.99% of the virus after 30 seconds.” https://www.foxnews.com/health/human-coronaviruses-inactivated-mouthwash-oral-rinses-study this might be one of the dumbest articles I’ve seen in this thread no surprise it’s from foxnews lol 1
WideNine Posted October 23, 2020 Posted October 23, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...8,000 Chinese nationals passed through Big Fredoland AFTER Trump banned travel from China.....so NYC was THE Gateway to the entire US......maybe he explains why in his new Covid-19 Handbook, now on sale at your local 7-Eleven........ The fact that people from China flew into the US via the largest airport on the West Coast (LAX) is kind of academic if you consider you know...geography. I doubt it has much to do with politics on the left coast, also, the Federal government and the CDC were in charge of monitoring and restricting entry at our 5 biggest airports servicing Asian countries. A more accurate way to describe Trump’s Jan. 31 proclamation is as a “restriction” on travel from mainland China — not as an outright ban. There were numerous exemptions in place that appeared to nullify the goal of preventing travel into the country to stop the spread of the virus. These exemptions included people traveling from the Special Autonomous Regions of Hong Kong and Macau, and U.S. citizens, residents, their spouses, and close relatives. Exemptions: https://archive.li/cfUMD#selection-347.0-357.1 The exemptions are listed in section 2, I did not copy them here. Even before the restriction was imposed, Americans and other nationalities came into the U.S. from mainland China unabated. According to an April 2020 report from The New York Times, at least 430,000 people arrived in the United States on direct flights from China since the outbreak was reported on the last day of 2019, including nearly 40,000 in the two months after the February restrictions were put in place. Thousands of these travelers flew directly from Wuhan. At least 60% of the travelers arriving in the U.S. on direct flights from China in February were not American citizens, according to government data. Screening and monitoring of many travelers was found to be sporadic, and the data shared with states was incorrect, plagued by bad telephone numbers, erroneous itineraries, and travelers even claiming they had never been to China. According to internal notes and emails received by The Associated Press, there were numerous examples of travelers slipping through the cracks in the system. Basically, the federal travel restriction response amounted to a porous proclamation then a cluster **** that lacked the tools, resources, and coordination to be implemented effectively. Edited October 23, 2020 by WideNine 1
spartacus Posted October 23, 2020 Posted October 23, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, Kemp said: Yesterday, America had the most COVID-19 deaths since August. I wonder what Trump means when he says we have turned the corner on the virus? more evidence that death counts are highly inflated https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/florida-says-it-will-give-more-scrutiny-to-covid-19-deaths/ar-BB1aiJCf “Fatality data reported to the state consistently presents confusion and warrants a more rigorous review. Of the 95 fatalities reported to the state yesterday, 16 had more than a two-month separation between the time the individuals tested positive and passed away, and 11 of the deaths occurred more than a month ago,” the Department of Health said in a press release late Wednesday. Hospitalizations for the disease, however, have remained roughly stable over the past month, with between 2,000 and 2,200 being treated in Florida hospitals, according to a state online census of hospital beds. Those figures compare with peaks of close to 10,000 in late July. Edited October 23, 2020 by spartacus
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