Big Blitz Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 Hahaha Cuomo writes a book on leadership lolol They were replying to:
shoshin Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, spartacus said: no matter what the media tell you physics provide that large holes (.5 micron) do not stop smaller aerosols and viral particles (<.14 micron) The viral particle is usually contained in respiratory droplets. Most of those droplets are larger than .5 microns or fall to the ground easily before 6 feet. Are masks perfect? No. Do they help contain the spread of droplets especially from the person expelling them? Yes. Do you keep ignoring this explanation? Yes. Thank of it this way. A mask is like the other team's offensive line and the droplets are like the Bills pass rush. They ain't getting through unless they rush bojorquez (hey wait a minute--call McD). Edited October 14, 2020 by shoshin
spartacus Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, shoshin said: The viral particle is usually contained in respiratory droplets. Most of those droplets are larger than .5 microns or fall to the ground easily before 6 feet. Are masks perfect? No. Do they help contain the spread of droplets especially from the person expelling them? Yes. Do you keep ignoring this explanation? Yes. Thank of it this way. A amsk is like the other team's offensive line and the droplets are like the Bills pass rush. They ain't getting through unless they rush bojorquez (hey wait a minute--call McD). unfortunately, those large mask holes serve to separate the virus particles form the droplets (that would have dropped to the ground) and spread them in the air as aerosol particles this is in addition to the remaining virus particles alrerady in that aerosol state if you can breathe thru your mask, the virus particles are passing as well
shoshin Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, spartacus said: unfortunately, those large mask holes serve to separate the virus particles form the droplets (that would have dropped to the ground) and spread them in the air as aerosol particles this is in addition to the remaining virus particles alrerady in that aerosol state if you can breathe thru your mask, the virus particles are passing as well You obviously didn't watch the game last night. When the Bills have consistent pass rush, I'll yield the point.
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, shoshin said: You obviously didn't watch the game last night. When the Bills have consistent pass rush, I'll yield the point. Bills were off last night it happens. All teams have bad days. Especially Titans are a great team making you pay with mistakes. Have to play mistake Free. But anyways I'm one of those think masks help. But respect others if they do not think helps.
GaryPinC Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, spartacus said: unfortunately, those large mask holes serve to separate the virus particles form the droplets (that would have dropped to the ground) and spread them in the air as aerosol particles this is in addition to the remaining virus particles alrerady in that aerosol state if you can breathe thru your mask, the virus particles are passing as well FIG. 16. Analysis of different droplet types over cough cycles. https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/5.0015044 For Figure 16 the blue triangle line is the maskless condition. You (and others) seem to always miss the point that the mask is a barrier that significantly knocks down the amount of droplets being expelled away from the face and the distance most of them travel. This paper here is the most conservative numbers in terms of distance, many of the others show even larger efficacy of masks. Again, this is the reason surgeons wear masks and are taught to operate at arm's length as much as possible. Edited October 14, 2020 by GaryPinC
fansince88 Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, GaryPinC said: FIG. 16. Analysis of different droplet types over cough cycles. https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/5.0015044 For Figure 16 the blue triangle line is the maskless condition. You (and others) seem to always miss the point that the mask is a barrier that significantly knocks down the amount of droplets being expelled away from the face and the distance most of them travel. This paper here is the most conservative numbers in terms of distance, many of the others show even larger efficacy of masks. Again, this is the reason surgeons wear masks and are taught to operate at arm's length as much as possible. Serious question. Have you seen anyone cough in a store with the mask on? Ones I have seen both cough and sneeze AFTER they pull their mask off
SoTier Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 Here's an interesting chart relating Covid-19 and state partisanship: Covid-19 Cases and Partisanship by State since June 1, 2020
fansince88 Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 13 minutes ago, SoTier said: Here's an interesting chart relating Covid-19 and state partisanship: Covid-19 Cases and Partisanship by State since June 1, 2020 I find this one more interesting. After all i have had the flu but it never killed me and that is what matters. I believe I had Covid and that didnt kill me but truly that is all that matters. http://dangoodspeed.com/covid/state-by-state-total-deaths-by-date
shoshin Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 (edited) On 8/22/2020 at 11:18 AM, Magox said: Gummi Bear has been one of the best Twitter data analysts when it comes to COVID. His projections here pretty much line up with what I believe. I think we will hit new lows in deaths by October sometime and continue to go lower after that for a bit. The question remains is does cross reactive T cell immunity along with 20% covid antibody truly create herd-like immunity? Some believe it doesn’t but the actual evidence suggests that it likely does. And will we see a resurgence of viral infections throughout suburbs and rural parts of the country in the late fall early winter? This guy, Gummi Bear, once so arrogantly confident in his forecast of new lows in October and herd immunity developing now admits he was wrong. “Seasonality worse than anyone predicted” he says. And then dedicates 20 tweets to Fauci bashing. You know who said we’d see a seasonal rise? Fauci. Always fun to revisit predictions. For the record I thought we’d continue to bottom out too. Turns out Fauci was better at predicting this than Sohshin, Magox, or Gummi. Happy to take the lumps. Edited October 15, 2020 by shoshin
spartacus Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 4 hours ago, GaryPinC said: FIG. 16. Analysis of different droplet types over cough cycles. https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/5.0015044 For Figure 16 the blue triangle line is the maskless condition. You (and others) seem to always miss the point that the mask is a barrier that significantly knocks down the amount of droplets being expelled away from the face and the distance most of them travel. This paper here is the most conservative numbers in terms of distance, many of the others show even larger efficacy of masks. Again, this is the reason surgeons wear masks and are taught to operate at arm's length as much as possible. stopping droplets is great except the virus travels as an aerosol - which is not covered by your charts above the mask strips the virus from the droplets and passes them to the world as an aeresol
SoTier Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, GaryPinC said: FIG. 16. Analysis of different droplet types over cough cycles. https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/5.0015044 For Figure 16 the blue triangle line is the maskless condition. You (and others) seem to always miss the point that the mask is a barrier that significantly knocks down the amount of droplets being expelled away from the face and the distance most of them travel. This paper here is the most conservative numbers in terms of distance, many of the others show even larger efficacy of masks. Again, this is the reason surgeons wear masks and are taught to operate at arm's length as much as possible. You're quoting the American Institute of Physics? What could they possibly know about anything, especially about masks? Common sense says masks are useless in stopping the spread of coronavirus. //sarcasm off Edited October 15, 2020 by SoTier
Reality Check Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 It warms my heart that people are still scared shitless of the common cold. Fools and cowards so easily duped by a handful of corporate sponsored "experts" in a country of obese, sugar addicted pill poppers.
SoCal Deek Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 I want to know where the updated numbers are? I’ve watched all week to see the death toll rise after joking about the EXTREMELY low numbers over the weekend. It hasn’t happened. It’s Thursday and we’ve yet to see a single day with 1,000 deaths. So by definition the average across the week must be WAY WAY down. And yet every time I turn on the national news I see stories about spikes in the virus. Just more Pandemic Porn! (I quickly turn the channel.) 1
shoshin Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: I want to know where the updated numbers are? I’ve watched all week to see the death toll rise after joking about the EXTREMELY low numbers over the weekend. It hasn’t happened. It’s Thursday and we’ve yet to see a single day with 1,000 deaths. So by definition the average across the week must be WAY WAY down. And yet every time I turn on the national news I see stories about spikes in the virus. Just more Pandemic Porn! (I quickly turn the channel.) Are you watching hospitalizations? They are way up. And if 1000 is your threshold, we were 33 off yesterday. There is a rise happening, to my surprise. Where it tops out remains to be seen. 1
spartacus Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 23 minutes ago, BeerLeagueHockey said: Are we all just going to ignore that the all cause mortality HAS NOT CHANGED FOR THIS YEAR!!!!! What the hell, man. This does not fit the narrative. I would like to hear the counterargument to this, honestly no snark. well many stealth deaths have not been reported, of course dead people are still locked in their homes and have not been counted yet 1
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 https://investor.hormelfoods.com/news-events/press-releases/news-details/2020/Hormel-Foods-Unveils-HORMEL-BLACK-LABEL-Breathable-Bacon/default.aspx
Big Blitz Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 Hahaha "years" now folks.....read closely: Scientists at the University of Oxford have developed an “extremely rapid” COVID-19 test that can produce results in less than five minutes, the university said on Thursday..... The university said it hoped to start product development in early 2021, with an approved device available within six months. It is currently working to set up a spinout company, seeking investment to accelerate the test into a fully integrated device. While the breakthrough may not be developed into a fully functioning mass testing device until the latter part of 2021, it could help countries and economies combat the pandemic next winter. https://on.mktw.net/3lQPdXq 1
spartacus Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Hahaha "years" now folks.....read closely: Scientists at the University of Oxford have developed an “extremely rapid” COVID-19 test that can produce results in less than five minutes, the university said on Thursday..... The university said it hoped to start product development in early 2021, with an approved device available within six months. It is currently working to set up a spinout company, seeking investment to accelerate the test into a fully integrated device. While the breakthrough may not be developed into a fully functioning mass testing device until the latter part of 2021, it could help countries and economies combat the pandemic next winter. https://on.mktw.net/3lQPdXq there is immediate way to generate tests now if you are breathing, assume they ran your PCR test at 45 cycles, you are positive and call it a day Edited October 15, 2020 by spartacus
SoCal Deek Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 5 hours ago, shoshin said: Are you watching hospitalizations? They are way up. And if 1000 is your threshold, we were 33 off yesterday. There is a rise happening, to my surprise. Where it tops out remains to be seen. There is a rise happening as the virus moves around the country. Not surprising at all. But...there isn't a rise happening nationwide. Similarly, hospitalizations are not what we need to be watching. We are way better at treating the virus than we were just a few months ago. Continue to focus on deaths....that's what we're hoping to avoid. Finally, the numbers speak for themselves. Over the four day period spanning the entire weekend, we did not get anywhere near 1,000.
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