Big Blitz Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 1 hour ago, shoshin said: Agree with this about better treatments and that’s why we have much better outcomes but Remdesivir is not that widely available to call it normal. Also Trump hit medical care earlier than you and me would have. My Uncle was given Remdesivir for I think over 5 days during his hospital stay in Florida. Was in hospital about a week plus. Recovered and released. He is 60 and has real bad hypertension. Had a minor stroke about 5 years ago. We should be full open. 2
TBBills Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 36 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: From the comments: Wow you need to be stopped b.c you are out of control.
B-Man Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED. BELIVE IN SCIENCE. CDC reverses again, now says Covid-19 is ‘sometimes’ airborne. “For the third time in less than a month, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has altered its guidance on how Covid-19 spreads. The agency said Monday that airborne transmission is possible, but that it’s not the most common way the virus travels from person to person — a position that was published and then removed from its website in September.” 1
Big Blitz Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 38 minutes ago, B-Man said: THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED. BELIVE IN SCIENCE. CDC reverses again, now says Covid-19 is ‘sometimes’ airborne. “For the third time in less than a month, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has altered its guidance on how Covid-19 spreads. The agency said Monday that airborne transmission is possible, but that it’s not the most common way the virus travels from person to person — a position that was published and then removed from its website in September.” Casedemic is over. Been over for months. Deaths declining is a sign of improving treatments and very possibly a virus that has mutated into something weaker then it was. 100K dead (allegedly by May 24). 2 months. 100K dead since then. 4 months. Nothing to see here tho. Just a virus that has become on par with 1957 and 1969.
SoCal Deek Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 I’m looking forward to seeing the numbers tomorrow. As of today Florida reported about 1/10th the new cases that they were at back when the media were losing their minds. The media clown car has packed up the tent and moved on in search of more doomsday click bait.
B-Man Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 MORE LIKE THIS, PLEASE: DOJ Blasts D.C. Mayor for ‘Silencing’ Churches: ‘There Is No Pandemic Exception to the Constitution.’ 1
BillsFanNC Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 Actual scientists following actual science. Imagine that. Focused Protection. 1 1
BillsFanNC Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Authors credentials (you know real scientists who follow real science): Dr. Martin Kulldorff, professor of medicine at Harvard University, a biostatistician, and epidemiologist with expertise in detecting and monitoring of infectious disease outbreaks and vaccine safety evaluations. Dr. Sunetra Gupta, professor at Oxford University, an epidemiologist with expertise in immunology, vaccine development, and mathematical modeling of infectious diseases. Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, professor at Stanford University Medical School, a physician, epidemiologist, health economist, and public health policy expert focusing on infectious diseases and vulnerable populations. Coming from both the left and right, and around the world, we have devoted our careers to protecting people. Current lockdown policies are producing devastating effects on short and long-term public health. The results (to name a few) include lower childhood vaccination rates, worsening cardiovascular disease outcomes, fewer cancer screenings and deteriorating mental health – leading to greater excess mortality in years to come, with the working class and younger members of society carrying the heaviest burden. Keeping students out of school is a grave injustice. The most compassionate approach that balances the risks and benefits of reaching herd immunity, is to allow those who are at minimal risk of death to live their lives normally to build up immunity to the virus through natural infection, while better protecting those who are at highest risk. We call this Focused Protection. 1 1
Big Blitz Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 Half the freaking deaths April thru May. Deaths have plummeted. Hospitalizations stable and down 20K from its peak in May. This is not a pandemic. Is there a virus out there that could possibly kill a 87 year old male with hypertension, heart disease, and diabetes? Yes. That man would be in trouble. And now the CDC is saying "yea it's not really airborne kinda sorta." Joke. Time to move on. 2
BillsFanNC Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Half the freaking deaths April thru May. Deaths have plummeted. Hospitalizations stable and down 20K from its peak in May. This is not a pandemic. Is there a virus out there that could possibly kill a 87 year old male with hypertension, heart disease, and diabetes? Yes. That man would be in trouble. And now the CDC is saying "yea it's not really airborne kinda sorta." Joke. Time to move on. This absolutely IS a pandemic. There is no debate about that. Whether the measures we are currently employing to combat the pandemic are proper or not is certainly debatable. 1
shoshin Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Half the freaking deaths April thru May. Deaths have plummeted. Hospitalizations stable and down 20K from its peak in May. This is not a pandemic. Is there a virus out there that could possibly kill a 87 year old male with hypertension, heart disease, and diabetes? Yes. That man would be in trouble. And now the CDC is saying "yea it's not really airborne kinda sorta." Joke. Time to move on. The most recent weeks always lag so they are higher than this shows, but we are still at pandemic levels. It's a math thing. Source: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm Edited October 6, 2020 by shoshin
BillsFanNC Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 The 2020 data on cardiovascular disease deaths will be interesting. A disease that lays waste to 600k Americans year after year like clockwork could be significantly higher in 2020. 1
Big Blitz Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 11 minutes ago, shoshin said: The most recent weeks always lag so they are higher than this shows, but we are still at pandemic levels. It's a math thing. Source: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm Yep. Since May just a bit above the June-Sept #s from 2019. And Georgia and the Ozarks have been open since April. And why is that "threshold" number lower in Sept 2020 vs Sept 2019
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