spartacus Posted September 29, 2020 Posted September 29, 2020 35 minutes ago, Magox said: That's odd, how is that some yokels from a Bills football message board knew this would be the case yet many of the so-called "experts" didn't? Some of us have been way ahead of some of these infectious disease doctors on many of these COVID issues. How can that be? I'll tell you, one thing that I have learned about this entire COVID experience is that it has so many different layers to it and although people like Fauci and crew have value, it takes more than doctors and experts to come to good decision making. Data aggregation by data experts who know how to sift through data and come to statistical determinations are probably one of the most important if not most important people that should be part of the decision making. The infectious disease experts while valuable in helping understand the underlying disease are limited in scope. They sort of have tunnel vision and just like any doctor, they are trained and used to saying to taking the "safe" and precautious route in just about everything. Of course, taking the safe and precautious route has real world implications which in this case involves deleterious effects in wrecking people's livelihoods and mental/physical health. They hate Atlas, because Atlas is in the spot light and truth be told, they probably honestly believe that he is giving reckless advice. I have seen and heard what Atlas has said and there is nothing that he has said that I can think of that I disagree with. The things he is saying cannot be 100% verified at this time, and going back to what I said earlier these doctors are cautious by nature and Atlas is giving advice that doesn't fit that mold. But what he says is backed up by statistical probabilities on data he's gone through. I wish he would have been employed earlier by the Trump task force but in my view he is definitely who Trump would want out there. These other guys keep saying contradictory things and what they say is very alarmist in nature. Fauci stands to reap millions from his/CDC vaccine patents of course, this is in addition to his patents on the virus itself not much need for a vaccine when the fear about the severeity of the virus is stripped away to show a 99.7% survival rate
Franco_92 Posted September 29, 2020 Posted September 29, 2020 Judging by the reactions of typical fans in the titans thread, I guess we are still going to pretend this was the virus we feared in March rather than the one we have data on now. Sometimes I have little hope for humans 1 1
Buffalo_Gal Posted September 29, 2020 Posted September 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, arcane said: Judging by the reactions of typical fans in the titans thread, I guess we are still going to pretend this was the virus we feared in March rather than the one we have data on now. Sometimes I have little hope for humans Yup, it is hair on fire lock down the whole world in that thread. 1
The Frankish Reich Posted September 29, 2020 Posted September 29, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, spartacus said: Fauci stands to reap millions from his/CDC vaccine patents of course, this is in addition to his patents on the virus itself not much need for a vaccine when the fear about the severeity of the virus is stripped away to show a 99.7% survival rate Wow, this is just horrifically ill-informed. As a starting point: https://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/matters/matters-9004.html https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CFR-2017-title37-vol1/xml/CFR-2017-title37-vol1-part501.xml Edited September 29, 2020 by The Frankish Reich
B-Man Posted September 29, 2020 Posted September 29, 2020 DOJ WARNS SAN FRANCISCO: Limiting church attendance to one congregant at a time is “draconian” and a possible violation of the First Amendment. Geez, ya think??? 1
The Frankish Reich Posted September 29, 2020 Posted September 29, 2020 Titans for Atlas. There's a joke in there somewhere. But it would be over the heads of most people on PPP.
Buffalo_Gal Posted September 29, 2020 Posted September 29, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, BeerLeagueHockey said: I love that some of the comments are directly blaming the Titans players for a lapse of judgement. I know many men think women are illogical and emotional, but after spending years on Buffalo Bills message boards that are predominately male ... let's just say neither sex has the market cornered on histrionics. Edited September 29, 2020 by Buffalo_Gal 3
spartacus Posted September 29, 2020 Posted September 29, 2020 51 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Wow, this is just horrifically ill-informed. As a starting point: https://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/matters/matters-9004.html https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CFR-2017-title37-vol1/xml/CFR-2017-title37-vol1-part501.xml As with most things in America, there are 2 sets of rules The ones you cite apply to employees working for the govt for the benefit of the people seems Fauci is working outside the application of those rules another construct like the Federal Reserve - which is privately owned CDC is a Private Organization - Not Government ... https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/disease/cdc-is-a-private-organization-not-government/ Some people have questioned my concern over both the CDC and John Hopkins University is a PRIVATE organization where the CDC accepts private funding - NOT ONLY GOVERNMENT! The CDC is quasi-government under the Department of Health and Human Services which strangely has sources of funding that are predicated on the fact that it also has a private 501(c)(3) public charity, like the Clinton ... CDC Foundation | About | CDC https://www.cdc.gov/about/business/cdcfoun.htm The CDC Foundation helps the CDC save and improve lives by unleashing the power of collaboration between CDC, philanthropies, corporations, organizations and individuals to protect the health, safety and security of America and the world. Since 1995, the CDC Foundation has launched approximately 1,000 programs and raised over $740 million. Public-Private Partnerships and CDC https://www.cdc.gov/partners/index.html CDC works with the private sector because public-private partnerships advance CDC's mission of protecting Americans. Americans--and CDC-can accomplish more working together than separately. Learn how to connect with CDC and access resources available to private sector organizations. CDC exposed as private corporation colluding with Big Pharma https://www.intellihub.com/cdc-exposed-as-private-corporation/ The CDC, by definition, is a private corporation working on behalf of its stakeholders, which include key players in the pharmaceutical and vaccine industries that profit from the spread of disease, not from real prevention and cures. Robert Kennedy Jr: CDC is a privately owned vaccine company https://eraoflight.com/2018/12/08/robert-kennedy-jr-cdc-is-a-privately-owned-vaccine-company/ Robert F. Kennedy Jr. claims the CDC owns patents on at least 57 different vaccines, and profits $4.1 billion per year in vaccination sales. According to RFK Jr., the CDC is not an independent government agency but is actually a subsidiary of Big Pharma.. Greenmedinfo.com reports: Mr. Kennedy told EcoWatch, "The CDC is a subsidiary of the pharmaceutical industry.
The Frankish Reich Posted September 29, 2020 Posted September 29, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, spartacus said: As with most things in America, there are 2 sets of rules The ones you cite apply to employees working for the govt for the benefit of the people seems Fauci is working outside the application of those rules another construct like the Federal Reserve - which is privately owned CDC is a Private Organization - Not Government ... https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/disease/cdc-is-a-private-organization-not-government/ Some people have questioned my concern over both the CDC and John Hopkins University is a PRIVATE organization where the CDC accepts private funding - NOT ONLY GOVERNMENT! The CDC is quasi-government under the Department of Health and Human Services which strangely has sources of funding that are predicated on the fact that it also has a private 501(c)(3) public charity, like the Clinton ... CDC Foundation | About | CDC https://www.cdc.gov/about/business/cdcfoun.htm The CDC Foundation helps the CDC save and improve lives by unleashing the power of collaboration between CDC, philanthropies, corporations, organizations and individuals to protect the health, safety and security of America and the world. Since 1995, the CDC Foundation has launched approximately 1,000 programs and raised over $740 million. Public-Private Partnerships and CDC https://www.cdc.gov/partners/index.html CDC works with the private sector because public-private partnerships advance CDC's mission of protecting Americans. Americans--and CDC-can accomplish more working together than separately. Learn how to connect with CDC and access resources available to private sector organizations. CDC exposed as private corporation colluding with Big Pharma https://www.intellihub.com/cdc-exposed-as-private-corporation/ The CDC, by definition, is a private corporation working on behalf of its stakeholders, which include key players in the pharmaceutical and vaccine industries that profit from the spread of disease, not from real prevention and cures. Robert Kennedy Jr: CDC is a privately owned vaccine company https://eraoflight.com/2018/12/08/robert-kennedy-jr-cdc-is-a-privately-owned-vaccine-company/ Robert F. Kennedy Jr. claims the CDC owns patents on at least 57 different vaccines, and profits $4.1 billion per year in vaccination sales. According to RFK Jr., the CDC is not an independent government agency but is actually a subsidiary of Big Pharma.. Greenmedinfo.com reports: Mr. Kennedy told EcoWatch, "The CDC is a subsidiary of the pharmaceutical industry. Well, let's set aside for the moment those, umm, unorthodox cites and start with a simple correction: Dr. Fauci is not a CDC employee! He is the Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease, which is a component of the National Institutes of Health. https://apic.org/Resource_/TinyMceFileManager/Advocacy-PDFs/outline_of_govt_health_agencies.pdf By the way, RFK Jr. is a crackpot anti-vaxxer ... https://www.texasmonthly.com/politics/an-afternoon-with-robert-f-kennedy-jr-and-the-texas-anti-vaccine-movement/ Edited September 29, 2020 by The Frankish Reich
WEATHER DOT COM Posted September 29, 2020 Posted September 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Yup, it is hair on fire lock down the whole world in that thread. Any examples from that thread you'd like to quote? I just read through it and it seems pretty tame.
Big Blitz Posted September 29, 2020 Posted September 29, 2020 How dare these people demand answers and justification for economic ruin 1
whatdrought Posted September 29, 2020 Posted September 29, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, arcane said: Judging by the reactions of typical fans in the titans thread, I guess we are still going to pretend this was the virus we feared in March rather than the one we have data on now. Sometimes I have little hope for humans I have to be honest, the Titans news scares me too.... not to do with the virus, but cause I don’t want the season cancelled and I know the fear mongers would love to see that happen (maybe right before the election: “Trump’s response is so bad football is canceled!”) Full Nazi lockdown on all covid stuff on the main board. I actually don’t mind. It’s better than the selective editing removing any opinions, sources, and facts differing from the main steam that we’ve had till now. Edited September 29, 2020 by whatdrought 2
The Frankish Reich Posted September 29, 2020 Posted September 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I have to be honest, the Titans news scares me too.... not to do with the virus, but cause I don’t want the season cancelled and I know the fear mongers would love to see that happen (maybe right before the election: “Trump’s response is so bad football is canceled!”) Full Nazi lockdown on all covid stuff on the main board. I actually don’t mind. It’s better than the selective editing removing any opinions, sources, and facts differing from the main steam that we’ve had till now. The NFL has the experience of MLB to go on. There were a couple notable outbreaks: the Marlins first, the Cardinals worst. MLB responded aggressively by postponing games. It worked. They got their 2-month season in, they'll get their (diminished) playoff ratings in an (expanded) post-season and World Series. The league is not overreacting; they're protecting the viability of their product in this 2020 season. If you're a Titans fan it kinda sucks. It did for the Marlins and Cards too, but interestingly, despite the severe disruptions, both are in the playoffs.
Big Blitz Posted September 29, 2020 Posted September 29, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: The NFL has the experience of MLB to go on. There were a couple notable outbreaks: the Marlins first, the Cardinals worst. MLB responded aggressively by postponing games. It worked. They got their 2-month season in, they'll get their (diminished) playoff ratings in an (expanded) post-season and World Series. The league is not overreacting; they're protecting the viability of their product in this 2020 season. If you're a Titans fan it kinda sucks. It did for the Marlins and Cards too, but interestingly, despite the severe disruptions, both are in the playoffs. Why arent they just practicing and not interacting with people actually at risk? Don't come in contact with the coaches, maybe? Not sure they even care. The players aren't even going to end up any more sick then if they had a flu (if AT ALL) let alone hospitalized and no one is dying. NO ONE. Does anyone realize how asinine this all is yet? Completely asinine. Edited September 29, 2020 by Big Blitz
The Frankish Reich Posted September 29, 2020 Posted September 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said: Why arent they just practicing and not interacting with people actually at risk? Don't come in contact with the coaches, maybe? Not sure they even care. The players aren't even going to end up any more sick then if they had a flu (if AT ALL) let alone hospitalized and no one is dying. NO ONE. Does anyone realize how asinine this all is yet? Completely asinine. Again, I don't think it is. The NFL is protecting a product, and for this season, that product is a TV show that plays every Sunday, Monday, and Thursday night and all day on Sunday afternoon. They realize (like MLB) that if this spreads beyond the Titans they're gonna shut down or be shut down. It is a business decision.
Big Blitz Posted September 29, 2020 Posted September 29, 2020 Just now, The Frankish Reich said: They realize (like MLB) that if this spreads beyond the Titans they're gonna shut down or be shut down. It is a business decision. Why? Why do they have to shut anything down? Are they super spreaders?
spartacus Posted September 29, 2020 Posted September 29, 2020 23 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Why? Why do they have to shut anything down? Are they super spreaders? NO ONE IS SICK
The Frankish Reich Posted September 29, 2020 Posted September 29, 2020 19 minutes ago, spartacus said: NO ONE IS SICK Yet. I guess you are indemnifying the NFL if the Steelers travel to TN and a member of their traveling party (needn't be a player or coach) gets sick. Awfully nice of you. Besides: if the game is postponed for a bit (not for too long ... let's say just until Tuesday) the Titans get a short week to prepare for the Bills on 10/11. So I'm all for it.
BillStime Posted September 30, 2020 Posted September 30, 2020 211,464 dead Americans and the Donald Q Trump is making jokes
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