BullBuchanan Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: Where? https://www.endcoronavirus.org/states
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 11 hours ago, BillsToast said: CDC said 8.4% ...thought I read that somewhere followed the MSM refuting the number as misinterpreted.....................
Gary M Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 41 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Just like they were in June, before they spiked again. Now isn't the time to pretend like you can analyze data. Did we flatten the curve, that was the goal right?
BillsToast Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...thought I read that somewhere followed the MSM refuting the number as misinterpreted..................... They explained it away. Not a refutation. They were saying the 6% didn't count because there were 2.4% more which shows the people saying 6% were wrong. It's laughable. Here read this:https://www.deseret.com/u-s-world/2020/3/19/21187208/coronavirus-covid-19-italy-deaths-cases I edited this because liberals only believe liberal sources:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-18/99-of-those-who-died-from-virus-had-other-illness-italy-says Edited September 17, 2020 by BillsToast
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, BillsToast said: They explained it away. Not a refutation. They were saying the 6% didn't count because there were 2.4% more which shows the people saying 6% were wrong. It's laughable. Here read this:https://www.deseret.com/u-s-world/2020/3/19/21187208/coronavirus-covid-19-italy-deaths-cases I edited this because liberals only believe liberal sources:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-18/99-of-those-who-died-from-virus-had-other-illness-italy-says ...MUCH appreciated!...thank you.... 1
plenzmd1 Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) 55 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: https://www.endcoronavirus.org/states umm, okay, i see why you not so bright. @shoshin said he would be shocked to see death spike somehwere where they were hit hard, you then post data on cases.( edit..i was wrong here and was looking at wrong chart..you did post deaths, my apologies).which even though wrong data, cant find anywhere where cases have even spiked a second time except Lousiina, and that is due to New Orleans being so hard hit tight after Mardi Gras. The only other one with a 2nd wave of new cases appears to be ILL..granted 10X tests being done now..but even with that lets look at their daily new deaths you Fear loving folks just keep grasping at straws and posting incorrect info..does it not get tired after a while? 46 minutes ago, BillsToast said: They explained it away. Not a refutation. They were saying the 6% didn't count because there were 2.4% more which shows the people saying 6% were wrong. It's laughable. Here read this:https://www.deseret.com/u-s-world/2020/3/19/21187208/coronavirus-covid-19-italy-deaths-cases I edited this because liberals only believe liberal sources:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-18/99-of-those-who-died-from-virus-had-other-illness-italy-says from March..does not your case. Edited September 17, 2020 by plenzmd1 1
shoshin Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said: Why? It's already happened. There have been two death spikes? Nowhere yet thankfully. 33 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: https://www.endcoronavirus.org/states That shows nowhere had two spikes. Even if you dive in on say, CA, you see that it had two regional rises. There's almost no chance of another April. We've not seen that chaos twice anyplace in the world that got hit once.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 ...I'd bet if you took out the highly susceptible/high risk elderly & and those with preexisting medical conditions, as well as the falsely reported vehicle/motorcycle/gun shot victims rubber stamped as "Covid-19", you'd get to the normal flu season deaths......BUT there is NO political capital in accuracy...my boss's daughter was sent home from 1st year in college after testing positive.....she has severe asthma.....he now tested positive and said based on his mild systems, "if THIS is why we shut down the country, it's a bigger joke than I thought".....and his daughter's asthma is just fine despite all of the published reports about respiratory issues with Covid-19...... 1
shoshin Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 27 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: umm, okay, i see why you not so bright. @shoshin said he would be shocked to see death spike somehwere where they were hit hard, you then post data on cases..which even though wrong data, cant find anywhere where cases have even spiked a second time except Lousiina, and that is due to New Orleans being so hard hit tight after Mardi Gras. The only other one with a 2nd wave of new cases appears to be ILL..granted 10X tests being done now..but even with that lets look at their daily new deaths you Fear loving folks just keep grasping at straws and posting incorrect info..does it not get tired after a while? from March..does not your case. His chart shows deaths not cases. Let’s aim for some civility. No one here is an epidemiologist. 1
meazza Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, shoshin said: His chart shows deaths not cases. Let’s aim for some civility. No one here is an epidemiologist. Based on his posting history, I’m not certain that he deserves it. That being said, yes the death rate in places already hit has gone down significantly. Edited September 17, 2020 by meazza
shoshin Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 1 hour ago, GG said: NY has 1.7k deaths/million, while NJ has 1.8k deaths/million. The commuting NJ counties are nowhere near as dense as NYC. The most densely populated neighborhoods in NYC weren't the hardest hit, either. Maybe there were other contributing factors to the carnage? But we've discussed this before. In your previous post you compared NY city to Jersey so I gave you the numbers to show you were wrong. Now you want to change the comparison. Of course it shows something different. Outside NYC metro, NY did fine. 1 minute ago, meazza said: Based on his posting history, I’m not certain that he deserves it. Plenz seems ok and we should afford everyone civility and kindness.
meazza Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, shoshin said: In your previous post you compared NY city to Jersey so I gave you the numbers to show you were wrong. Now you want to change the comparison. Of course it shows something different. Outside NYC metro, NY did fine. Plenz seems ok and we should afford everyone civility and kindness. I meant BB
plenzmd1 Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, shoshin said: His chart shows deaths not cases. Let’s aim for some civility. No one here is an epidemiologist. I did read wrong and left my error , and apology in post. TY! All good.
shoshin Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, meazza said: Based on his posting history, I’m not certain that he deserves it. Plenz seems ok and we should afford everyone civility and kindness. There’s plenty of anonymous dickishness online and in the world.
BullBuchanan Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 37 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: umm, okay, i see why you not so bright. @shoshin said he would be shocked to see death spike somehwere where they were hit hard, you then post data on cases.( edit..i was wrong here and was looking at wrong chart..you did post deaths, my apologies).which even though wrong data, cant find anywhere where cases have even spiked a second time except Lousiina, and that is due to New Orleans being so hard hit tight after Mardi Gras. The only other one with a 2nd wave of new cases appears to be ILL..granted 10X tests being done now..but even with that lets look at their daily new deaths you Fear loving folks just keep grasping at straws and posting incorrect info..does it not get tired after a while? from March..does not your case. 7 minutes ago, meazza said: Based on his posting history, I’m not certain that he deserves it. That being said, yes the death rate in places already hit has gone down significantly. Sigh, That's not the point I was making, at all.
BillsToast Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said: from March..does not your case. Here's May:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-26/italy-says-96-of-virus-fatalities-suffered-from-other-illnesses Can't find a newer one. If you can post it. My point stands, it's an overinflated fake pandemic. I lived near a Covid testing center in a hospital in the height of this joke and it was it was always empty
plenzmd1 Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 31 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Sigh, That's not the point I was making, at all. what is your point then? 9 minutes ago, BillsToast said: Here's May:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-26/italy-says-96-of-virus-fatalities-suffered-from-other-illnesses Can't find a newer one. If you can post it. My point stands, it's an overinflated fake pandemic. I lived near a Covid testing center in a hospital in the height of this joke and it was it was always empty its not fake..overinflated i agree. And yes, most people who die from it have at least on comorbidity..and generally much older.That being said, Covid may still have had a role in their death, and as harsh as it sounds may have just pushed forward by 3 or 4 months those that were likely to occur anyway. 1
BillsToast Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 19 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: what is your point then? its not fake..overinflated i agree. And yes, most people who die from it have at least on comorbidity..and generally much older.That being said, Covid may still have had a role in their death, and as harsh as it sounds may have just pushed forward by 3 or 4 months those that were likely to occur anyway. I meant a fake pandemic, not that it's fake in itself. It's real, it's just not a Pandemic like the movie. It does lead to death if you have the right biomarkers. Pandemic is a marketing term for this, it's not a real pandemic in extent, only in reach. 1
shoshin Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 23 minutes ago, BillsToast said: I meant a fake pandemic, not that it's fake in itself. It's real, it's just not a Pandemic like the movie. It does lead to death if you have the right biomarkers. Pandemic is a marketing term for this, it's not a real pandemic in extent, only in reach. Pandemic is determined by the numbers. We have an excess of deaths well above the pandemic threshold ergo pandemic. 1
Big Blitz Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 4 hours ago, BillStime said: Wait. Didn't you just say these bureaucrats are all puppets doing Trumps bidding? You've been blaming Trump for downplaying the virus and I told you Fauci was also "downplaying" (telling the truth) about the virus on March 9th as proof that perhaps this virus was absolutely not the threat the Left desperately wants you to believe it is and this is what you said: 4 hours ago, BillStime said: Yup - who controls the script? This guy: So Redfield is an independent expert opinon here under unfair attack from POTUS (who you, when convenient, want to claim he pulls all the strings) but Fauci in March was not an independent expert. The book on "How the CIA, China, and the far Left used Covid to try to take out Trumpism....and failed" is going to be the highest selling book in human history. Correct folks. The FBI tried to take this man down (Obamagate). But noooo.......in no way is it possible the Intelligence Community who would love boots on the ground everywhere, endless wars, and has been listening to Trumpn and his people criticize and buck them for over a decade....no in no way shape or form would they love to see him gone. Nope. Not possible.....
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