Bakin Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: He wanted to open everything up in the face of the pandemic. It would have been a disaster. You people just rewrite history in your brains the way Orwell had Big Brother doing it. You people are intellectually dead for Trump. Ya, he is a total F up. Never should have locked down to begin with. Sweden... but otherwise...he was correct about covid being the new Dem hoax. Look at you NPC frothing at the mouth. 1
Tiberius Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 Just now, Bakin said: Never should have locked down to begin with. Sweden... but otherwise...he was correct about covid being the new Dem hoax. Look at you NPC frothing at the mouth. Exactly, and it would have been way worse. Not locking down would have been a disaster. Thanks
BillsToast Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Exactly, and it would have been way worse. Not locking down would have been a disaster. Thanks Proof? NADA States that lock-down harder had worse cases. CDC shows that lock-downs have done little to nothing. E.g. NYC 1
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 1 hour ago, shoshin said: ...what is the NET percentage of Covid-19 deaths after subtracting our elderly, preexisting conditions (ie. the higher risk categories), auto accidents, motorcycle accidents, gun shot wounds et al??.....perhaps 30-35% of the total deaths?......you're pretty keyed in on Covid-19 analysis.....what is your assessment?.....
spartacus Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 (edited) ever wonder why the virus is referred to as COVID conspiracy theorists may suggest Certificate Of Vaccine ID Edited September 16, 2020 by spartacus
Tiberius Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 46 minutes ago, BillsToast said: Proof? NADA States that lock-down harder had worse cases. CDC shows that lock-downs have done little to nothing. E.g. NYC I know, there's no proof to what would have happened had Trump packed the churches and opened the schools because he couldn't. Great point. You are a Trumper! Making childish points.
The Trump Virus Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 19 minutes ago, spartacus said: ever wonder why the virus is referred to as COVID conspiracy theorists may suggest Certificate Of Vaccine ID It has another name.
Tiberius Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, The Trump Virus said: It has another name. What name is that?? 1
SoCal Deek Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 25 minutes ago, Tiberius said: I know, there's no proof to what would have happened had Trump packed the churches and opened the schools because he couldn't. Great point. You are a Trumper! Making childish points. The President does not have the constitutional authority to either pack a church, or not pack a church. 1
Buffalo_Gal Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 Trump (on the presser) said all 13850 certified nursing homes all have the rapid response testing. Since NYS is now mandating a COVID test for visitors to nursing homes, I wonder if visitors can utilize this too? My father's nursing home got shutdown due to an agency person who came in testing positive for COVID (not regular staff, residents, or the visitors). My mother has to figure out how to get a test so she can see my father again when they reopen (now at 14 days though instead of 28 days). Will she have to be tested weekly? Looks like. </snip> State Department of Health Commissioner Dr. Howard Zucker today announced nursing homes in New York will be allowed to resume limited visitations for facilities that have been without COVID-19 for at least 14 days, a revision to the 28 day guidelines previously set by the federal Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services. This updated guidance will allow eligible visitation in approximately 500 of the state's 613 nursing homes. </snip> These guidelines, which go into effect Thursday, September 17 require visitors to present a verified negative test result within the last seven days. Visitation must be refused by the facility if the individual fails to present a negative test result, exhibits any COVID-19 symptoms, or does not pass screening questions. The number of visitors to the nursing home must not exceed ten percent of the resident census at any time and only two visitors will be allowed per resident at any one time. Visitors must undergo temperature checks, wear face coverings and socially distance during the visit and visitors under the age 18 are prohibited. Nursing Homes accepting visitors will be required to send their visitation plan to NYSDOH and affirmatively attest that they are following the guidance outlined here </snip>
Tiberius Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 46 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: The President does not have the constitutional authority to either pack a church, or not pack a church. So?
Buffalo_Gal Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 (edited) Trump just held up the plan for vaccine distribution. (57 page document, sent to every state.) The high risk people get it first, as well as first responders and people working in health care. (following pandemic protocol) Will be available to the general public. Looking at October or November for distribution. (I "think" was said) Now the Scott Atlas -guy said no later than January. 700M doses There are pdfs on the site: Trump Administration Releases COVID-19 Vaccine Distribution Strategy The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) and Department of Defense (DoD) today released two documents outlining the Trump Administration’s detailed strategy to deliver safe and effective COVID-19 vaccine doses to the American people as quickly and reliably as possible. The documents, developed by HHS in coordination with DoD and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), provide a strategic distribution overview along with an interim playbook for state, tribal, territorial, and local public health programs and their partners on how to plan and operationalize a vaccination response to COVID-19 within their respective jurisdictions. </snip> Edited September 16, 2020 by Buffalo_Gal 3
BillStime Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 Bingo 200,000 dead Americans - thank you Trump voters
Tiberius Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, BillStime said: Bingo 200,000 dead Americans - thank you Trump voters And it wasn’t a travel ban, it was more of a restriction where many infected people got into country anyway 1
SoCal Deek Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 The Trump Hating morons are out in force. What has he done since? Obviously Nathan Lerner hasn't been paying much attention. Hey Nathan....turn off CNN and join the rest of us out here pulling on the wagon!
shoshin Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 3 hours ago, BillsToast said: Proof? NADA States that lock-down harder had worse cases. CDC shows that lock-downs have done little to nothing. E.g. NYC NYC is a terrible example. Covid hit the most densely packed city in America before we had any idea how to treat or distance. The NE cities of Philly, Boston and NYC are tough to compare with Houston. Better comparisons are with CA cities that locked down and Southern big cities.
Tiberius Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 CDC director suggests face masks offer more COVID-19 protection than vaccine would Orion Rummler CDC director Robert Redfield suggested in a Senate Appropriations subcommittee hearing on Wednesday that face masks are "more guaranteed" to protect against the coronavirus than a vaccine, citing the potential for some people to not become immune to the virus
meazza Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 https://www.wsj.com/articles/as-coronavirus-rebounds-europe-rejects-new-lockdowns-11600251871?st=jhgd9w9ncpzqxvl&reflink=article_copyURL_share Reading some of the comments from European leaders here, you’d think they became maga freaks. Macron said that policy makers decide what policy is not scientists. How dare he !!!
BillStime Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 Bastard - 200,000 CANCELED Americans - go to hell Dick
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