The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19

[ALF]

Redefining Covid-19: Months after infection, patients report breathing difficulty, excessive fatigue

 

Corey Coopersmith was a healthy fitness consultant and nutritionist. Six months after Covid-19, he still can't work, facing dysautonomia and severe breathlessness.

(CNN)   It's been five months since Lucy Gahan contracted Covid-19, and her life still hasn't returned to normal.

Gahan, a clinical psychologist in Shrewsbury, United Kingdom, hasn't been able to return to work.

The disease causes what she calls "storms," disabling periods when she feels shortness of breath, numbness in her hands and feet and her heart rate shoots up from simple tasks. Even taking a shower is possible only during an occasional respite in symptoms.
"In May and June, I could barely talk because I was so ill," she said.

 

Before contracting the disease in early April, the mother of two ran three times a week and had a regular yoga routine.
"I can only walk as far as the corner," she said. "In terms of running, I can't imagine when that will happen, if ever."

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/13/health/long-haul-covid-fatigue-breathing-wellness/index.html

 

covid can be a  B....  not just for those with underlying problems

[plenzmd1]

2 hours ago, ALF said:

Redefining Covid-19: Months after infection, patients report breathing difficulty, excessive fatigue

 

Corey Coopersmith was a healthy fitness consultant and nutritionist. Six months after Covid-19, he still can't work, facing dysautonomia and severe breathlessness.

(CNN)   It's been five months since Lucy Gahan contracted Covid-19, and her life still hasn't returned to normal.

Gahan, a clinical psychologist in Shrewsbury, United Kingdom, hasn't been able to return to work.

The disease causes what she calls "storms," disabling periods when she feels shortness of breath, numbness in her hands and feet and her heart rate shoots up from simple tasks. Even taking a shower is possible only during an occasional respite in symptoms.
"In May and June, I could barely talk because I was so ill," she said.

 

Before contracting the disease in early April, the mother of two ran three times a week and had a regular yoga routine.
"I can only walk as far as the corner," she said. "In terms of running, I can't imagine when that will happen, if ever."

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/13/health/long-haul-covid-fatigue-breathing-wellness/index.html

 

covid can be a  B....  not just for those with underlying problems

OTOH, i have known at least 20 people now that have had the virus, 1 in ICU for 3 days, ...no one else hospitalized...and zero long term effects.  And i mean zero.And the guy in ICU had it Mid March..

 

hey @Magox and @shoshin, trust you guys to tell me where my logic is off. These stats are from Minnesota, but assume they reflect CT rates across the country

https://www.startribune.com/broad-covid-19-testing-under-microscope/572396572/

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 Among 300 positive tests over the past three months, the state lab found that roughly 47% required fewer than 30 cycles to find one of two required viral targets in samples, while 21% needed 30 to 35 cycles, and 24% needed 35 to 38 cycles.

even if we take 0nly those above 35CT, that leaves 32% of these "positive" tests way above the 30CT recommenced by the Harvard guy and I think what is typically used in influenza detection. 

 

Now, lets say that 32% rate applies nationwide...would that logically mean then that deaths resulting from Covid are 32% inflated..as 32 % of those folks might have been negative even using the 35 CT thresshold? . ?  

[Chef Jim]

16 hours ago, Q-baby! said:

Like I said, I don’t care if you like my answer or not. 
 

Sorry your boy killed people (I know he’s not your boy, you just spend your time defending him)
 

He’s a fool and so are you for defending him. Says a lot about you! 
 

Take it all Jimmy! 😂😂😂

Dude. I am NOT defending him.  I’m asking you to back up your statement. Very few people use words like: I think, it’s my opinion, in my mind.   Everything here is stated as fact and what I do is ask people to provide proof or the line of thought that brought them to those conclusions.  And it’s amazing how often I do that the answers are not given, I’m attacked as someone who asks stupid questions, the subject is changed or I’m flat out ignored.  

Edited September 13, 2020 by Chef Jim

[spartacus]

15 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

OTOH, i have known at least 20 people now that have had the virus, 1 in ICU for 3 days, ...no one else hospitalized...and zero long term effects.  And i mean zero.And the guy in ICU had it Mid March..

 

hey @Magox and @shoshin, trust you guys to tell me where my logic is off. These stats are from Minnesota, but assume they reflect CT rates across the country

https://www.startribune.com/broad-covid-19-testing-under-microscope/572396572/

even if we take 0nly those above 35CT, that leaves 32% of these "positive" tests way above the 30CT recommenced by the Harvard guy and I think what is typically used in influenza detection. 

 

Now, lets say that 32% rate applies nationwide...would that logically mean then that deaths resulting from Covid are 32% inflated..as 32 % of those folks might have been negative even using the 35 CT thresshold? . ?  

As you note, 30 cycles should be the standard for PCR testing

 

you may ask what the CDC, per their PCR instructions), is trying to accomplish by mandating that PCR test be run at 45 cycles

this would result ins 35 TRILLION copies of genetic material to test, instead of 5 BILLION at 30 cycles

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

..at least our "Bored Statistician" SoTier keeps us apprised with his daily "cut and paste" post....Amazon Prime FINALLY delivered his new lithium calculator batteries to Jamestown (took 8 days to find it) so he's good to go until November 4.....

[GG]

5 hours ago, ALF said:

Redefining Covid-19: Months after infection, patients report breathing difficulty, excessive fatigue

 

Corey Coopersmith was a healthy fitness consultant and nutritionist. Six months after Covid-19, he still can't work, facing dysautonomia and severe breathlessness.

(CNN)   It's been five months since Lucy Gahan contracted Covid-19, and her life still hasn't returned to normal.

Gahan, a clinical psychologist in Shrewsbury, United Kingdom, hasn't been able to return to work.

The disease causes what she calls "storms," disabling periods when she feels shortness of breath, numbness in her hands and feet and her heart rate shoots up from simple tasks. Even taking a shower is possible only during an occasional respite in symptoms.
"In May and June, I could barely talk because I was so ill," she said.

 

Before contracting the disease in early April, the mother of two ran three times a week and had a regular yoga routine.
"I can only walk as far as the corner," she said. "In terms of running, I can't imagine when that will happen, if ever."

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/13/health/long-haul-covid-fatigue-breathing-wellness/index.html

 

covid can be a  B....  not just for those with underlying problems

 

This definitely happens to some infected people, but it's not the prevalent response from the majority of the infected people.  Any virus will have detrimental effects on people who are naturally predisposed for a worse outcome for that virus.

[ALF]

17 minutes ago, GG said:

 

This definitely happens to some infected people, but it's not the prevalent response from the majority of the infected people.  Any virus will have detrimental effects on people who are naturally predisposed for a worse outcome for that virus.

 

Of course you are correct and that is the good news that it is not widespread after effect

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

So Don didn’t want to panic people with the dire news of the lethality of Covid. 
 

 

I have a question 

will this panic people?

 

 

 

 

 

They’re coming to take your home and security away. 

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

1 hour ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

So Don didn’t want to panic people with the dire news of the lethality of Covid. 
 

 

I have a question 

will this panic people?

 

 

 

 

 

They’re coming to take your home and security away. 

 

Ummm yeah. They kinda are. Ask the people that were eating at restaurants in Rochester last weekend that were attacked for no reason, about it. 

Take a look at the riots in the Democratic cities. The ones with Democratic Mayors + Governors have been the worst because they will not ask the Feds for help. Because Trump is "literally Hitler"   he is waiting for the governors to ask for help instead of marching in troops. When federal help is asked for, the riots have stop quickly.

Anyhooooo wrong thread for this. Check out the liberal protests and antifa threads for more on the rioting and looting being sanctioned with police stand-down orders issued by the mayors in the Democratic cities. For bonus reading, defund the police is a third thread for you to take this discussion.


 

Edited September 14, 2020 by Buffalo_Gal

[shoshin]

 

 

I’d say we can dispense with the “Trump never downplayed it” argument. 

[meazza]

1 hour ago, shoshin said:

 

 

I’d say we can dispense with the “Trump never downplayed it” argument. 

To quote a failed presidential candidate, “what difference at this point does it make ?”

Bunga bunga party to celebrate

 

Professor Alberto Zangrillo made it clear when speaking to the press that Berlusconi was never in intensive care, intubated or even given oxygen therapy.

However, the doctor did admit “the viral load on Berlusconi’s swab was so high that in March-April it would not have had the fortunate outcome he has now.

“It would’ve most probably killed him if it had happened then, and he knows that.”

Since the height of the pandemic in Italy, which first hit in late February, treatment, research and facilities have all greatly improved around COVID-19.

[Tiberius]

2 hours ago, shoshin said:

 

 

I’d say we can dispense with the “Trump never downplayed it” argument. 

Super spreader events. Drinking the Kool Aid 

[shoshin]

1 hour ago, meazza said:

To quote a failed presidential candidate, “what difference at this point does it make”

Herman Cain deserved better.
 

I liked that guy. 

[Golden Goat]

10 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Trump is "literally Hitler"  

 

It's amazing that the media still runs with this.

• Trump's daughter is an Orthodox Jew.
• Trump's son-in-law (and most trusted adviser) is an Orthodox Jew.
• Trump never massacred one Jew, let alone 6 million.
• Trump recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel (a broken campaign promise by almost every presidential candidate for decades).
• Trump's admin helped broker once-unthought-of peace deals with UAE, Bahrain and more to come.
• Trump treats Israeli leadership and citizens with respect, unlike his hateful predecessor.

Other than that, though -- HITLER!  

 

I'm on record saying I don't like many things Trump says and does. I don't plan on voting. However, those who calls him "Hitler" mock the memory of good folks like my ancestors who were exterminated at the hands of a REAL monster.

If Libs keep insulting our intelligence with this Hitler *****, they just might push me (and others like me) to the polls.
 

Edited September 14, 2020 by Golden Goat

[ziltoid]

1 minute ago, shoshin said:

Herman Cain deserved better.
 

I liked that guy. 

 

Using anyone's death for political gain is horrendous.  Ignored. 

[shoshin]

39 minutes ago, BeerLeagueHockey said:

 

Using anyone's death for political gain is horrendous.  Ignored. 

When the point is that the person deserved better than to have his death be a story because they attended an event that is in the news, I differ.

Make sure you get Meazza on ignore too since he brought him up. 
 

I applaud your sensitivity. We could use more people as soft as you here. 
 

 

 

Edited September 14, 2020 by shoshin

[Q-baby!]

21 minutes ago, Golden Goat said:

 

It's amazing that the media still runs with this.

• Trump's daughter is an Orthodox Jew.
• Trump's son-in-law (and most trusted adviser) is an Orthodox Jew.
• Trump never massacred one Jew, let alone 6 million.
• Trump recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel (a broken campaign promise by almost every presidential candidate for decades).
• Trump's admin helped broker once-unthought-of peace deals with UAE, Bahrain and more to come.
• Trump treats Israeli leadership and citizens with respect, unlike his hateful predecessor.

Other than that, though -- HITLER!  

 

I'm on record saying I don't like many things Trump says and does. I don't plan on voting. However, those who calls him "Hitler" mock the memory of good folks like my ancestors who were exterminated at the hands of a REAL monster.

If Libs keep insulting our intelligence with this Hitler *****, they just might push me (and others like me) to the polls.
 

Ok drama queen. Vote if you want. FFS. 

[Golden Goat]

1 hour ago, Q-baby! said:

Ok drama queen. Vote if you want. FFS. 

 

Awwww, I triggered poor wittle Q-Tip again. I'm guessing you're a filthy anti-Semite, like a certain other lib troll -- not to mention any names.

 

 

Edited September 14, 2020 by Golden Goat

[Q-baby!]

11 minutes ago, Golden Goat said:

 

Awwww, I triggered poor wittle Q-Tip again. I'm guessing you're a filthy anti-Semite, like a certain other lib troll -- not to mention any names.

 

 

Not triggered at all. Just laughing at another moron. You going to wear your best skirt to the polls? 

[Golden Goat]

11 minutes ago, Q-baby! said:

Not triggered at all. Just laughing at another moron. You going to wear your best skirt to the polls? 

Just another liberal Jew-hater making light of the Holocaust and too stupid to realize this kills his/her/its "cause." The moron would be you, Q-tip.
 

Edited September 14, 2020 by Golden Goat