The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19

[Cinga]

4 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Cuomo bundle? ??

 

Florida says hello 

Yeah, cause comparing Cuomo 34 thousand deaths to DeSantis 74 hundred proves Cuomo is the winner huh?

 

[bilzfancy]

1 minute ago, Cinga said:

Yeah, cause comparing Cuomo 34 thousand deaths to DeSantis 74 hundred proves Cuomo is the winner huh?

 

and Florida has 2 million + more people and far more older folks then in NY

[Gary M]

3 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

You don’t think he made a terrible mistake in telling people it would all be gone in April? This is a pandemic and he passed along harmful, deadly misinformation that people like you believed. Criminal. 

 

Still we we don’t have a national strategy for confronting this. Sad. 

 

No

 

And that's BS and you know it.

 

Come on you have all the answers.

 

What should he have done?

 

When (dates please) should he have done it?

 

And why? (what info was available to make the decision)

1 minute ago, bilzfancy said:

and Florida has 2 million + more people and far more older folks then in NY

 

How many states deaths do you have to add together to get the same as NY and NJ?

Edited August 5, 2020 by Gary M

[Koko78]

14 minutes ago, bilzfancy said:

and Florida has 2 million + more people and far more older folks then in NY

 

Damn that Trump DeSantis!

[Cinga]

8 minutes ago, Gary M said:

 

No

 

And that's BS and you know it.

 

Come on you have all the answers.

 

What should he have done?

 

When (dates please) should he have done it?

 

And why? (what info was available to make the decision)

 

How many states deaths do you have to add together to get the same as NY and NJ?

 

WOW! I just ran totals and it looks like you could add together the entire south and still not equal to just NYS!

 

	DEATHS
Florida	7402
N Carolina	2039
S Carolina	1847
Georgia	3921
Alabama	1695
Tennessee	1117
Kentucky	751
Louisiana	4051
Mississippi	1753
total	24576
New York	32801

 

 

[RiotAct]

35 minutes ago, GG said:

 

NYC couldn't even align its response between its Health and the Hospitals departments, but it's surely the Federal government's fault.

Trump should have been on the phone with the administrators of each hospital, telling them exactly what they needed for the oncoming surge of patients!!!

[3rdnlng]

2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Cuomo bundle? ??

 

Florida says hello 

It's "bungle" you fool. Now, what did Trump do or not do to make the pandemic worse? Don't tell me what he said, talk about his actions.

Edited August 5, 2020 by 3rdnlng

[B-Man]

 

 

HANNAH COX: New York’s failure to use emergency hospitals is another reason to distrust government healthcare.

 

 

A good piece that’s getting some notice:

 

 

 

 

 

 

[TH3]

3 hours ago, Cinga said:

I'm tired of hearing how badly Trump has handled this, and even seeing on the news how Europe did so much better I figured it was high time for a comparison.

 

These numbers are current on the Worldmeter site as of 8/5 around 10am Eastern. I grabbed Western Europe nations to try and get close to our own population, without appearing to pick and chose. 

 

The numbers are really close to each other, with the US having a few more deaths however look at Germany who has done outstanding through this by comparison not only to us, but literally everyone else. Like us, their cases still appear to be going up, but deaths are going down. But if you take into account Cuomo incompetence on our side, this more than makes up for the anomaly so far in Germany

 

NATION	COVID DEATHS	POPULATION
UK	46,299	67,920,084
France	30,296	65,287,519
Germany	9,240	83,809,800
Italy	35,171	60,453,051
Spain	28,494	46,756,550
Belgium	9,852	11,594,464
TOTAL	159,352	335,821,468
USA	160,335	331,187,544

Deaths yesterday?

[BillStime]

[BillStime]

[Gary M]

"What difference – at this point, what difference does it make?"

[SoCal Deek]

10 minutes ago, BillStime said:

So let me see if I understand....you DON’T like the President? I get confused sometimes. 

[SoCal Deek]

5 hours ago, Cinga said:

I'm tired of hearing how badly Trump has handled this, and even seeing on the news how Europe did so much better I figured it was high time for a comparison.

 

These numbers are current on the Worldmeter site as of 8/5 around 10am Eastern. I grabbed Western Europe nations to try and get close to our own population, without appearing to pick and chose. 

 

The numbers are really close to each other, with the US having a few more deaths however look at Germany who has done outstanding through this by comparison not only to us, but literally everyone else. Like us, their cases still appear to be going up, but deaths are going down. But if you take into account Cuomo incompetence on our side, this more than makes up for the anomaly so far in Germany

 

NATION	COVID DEATHS	POPULATION
UK	46,299	67,920,084
France	30,296	65,287,519
Germany	9,240	83,809,800
Italy	35,171	60,453,051
Spain	28,494	46,756,550
Belgium	9,852	11,594,464
TOTAL	159,352	335,821,468
USA	160,335	331,187,544

The really stupid part is that the health officials of all of these countries were all talking to each other all throughout the Spring.  It's not like they were all approaching this in a vacuum! Some countries tried some things and others tried other things. To Monday Morning QB the results is nothing short of childish....and obviously political in an election year.The United State is a large land mass.  What did people want the federal government to do, ban domestic travel and movement of goods and services?  Really?  Good luck getting groceries and that Amazon order!

[Magox]

Houston has burnt out. 
 

Remember all that panic porn a couple weeks ago how Hospitals were on the verge of collapse and Hospital beds, ICU’s were running out?

 

Good times

 

 

[Big Blitz]

 

 

 

 

[spartacus]

5 hours ago, 3rdnlng said:

Great work. While Europe has only 28% of the total cases that we have they have tested 71% of the amount of people that we have tested. Deaths and population are basically the same. Europe has a much higher death rate per discovered cases. It would seem that there is an inconsistency in the testing parameters themselves. It wouldn't surprise me in the least to find out that Europe is using test kits from China that are unreliable. 

 

our test kits are not from China

but no more reliable

 

 

due to  lack of testing materials, the labs are combining swabs into batches and testing the entire batch at one time

https://www.livescience.com/pooled-testing-us-coronavirus.html

 

after 6 months of learning about the intricacies of the PCR test black box- which multiplies the virus particle 35 trillion times (doubled 45 times) in order to measure it,

https://discoverysedge.mayo.edu/2020/03/27/the-science-behind-the-test-for-the-covid-19-virus/

 

 the FDA is approving quick tests that can produce conclusive tests in 30 minutes

 

There is no standard for the test being conducted, since all of these labs rolled out their own tests under "emergency conditions" with the FDA applying no quality control.

Who knows how accurate or what they are actually testing

Since the test is basically a black box, a positive test could mean you had the common cold at this point- since there is no visual confirmation of sickness for most positive cases.

 

in Florida, over a hundred labs were caught reporting that 100% of all cases tested were positive.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/07/15/florida-labs-incorrectly-reported-a-100-positivity-rate-for-coronavirus-tests/

 

 

 

 

[IDBillzFan]

4 hours ago, TH3 said:

Deaths yesterday?

 

Good point. It's not like the left spends every moment joyfully telling everyone the total number of people Trump killed with the virus. 

 

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

I'll take "never" for $2000, Alex:
 

 

[Big Blitz]

He is on to something with equal misery

 

Don't think for one second this generation of leaders isn't saying "well it wouldn't be right if this part of the state was in school and normal and this part isn't."