GG Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Gary M said: why is NY not fully open? Because chicken wings aren't food?
Gary M Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 Just now, GG said: Because chicken wings aren't food? But hot dogs are so all the baseball stadiums should be full.
LB3 Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Gary M said: why is NY not fully open? The reason NYS is not fully open is the same reason I had the following post deleted and received a message about it not being on topic in the OTW Covid Humor thread. Politics and panic porn. TDS and fear have crippled this country. This was my post. Edited August 5, 2020 by LB3
Taro T Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 42 minutes ago, Gary M said: 33700 dead in New York state is one 5th of all deaths, and a 3rd of them were in nursing homes that cuomo made take positive cases. cuomo should be in jail Probably more than that were nursing home residents. Per Andy Cuomo's directive, in late April NYS stopped counting nursing home resident deaths as nursing home deaths if the resident died elsewhere from/with COVID-19. That nearly certainly has led to an undercounting since the directive took effect. 1
shoshin Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 (edited) Due to size restrictions, can't paste CA and TX but they have similar shapes to FL. Edited August 5, 2020 by shoshin
Gary M Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 Just now, shoshin said: Due to space restrictions, can't paste CA and TX but they have similar shapes to FL. The death cult mourns this good news 1
Cinga Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 I'm tired of hearing how badly Trump has handled this, and even seeing on the news how Europe did so much better I figured it was high time for a comparison. These numbers are current on the Worldmeter site as of 8/5 around 10am Eastern. I grabbed Western Europe nations to try and get close to our own population, without appearing to pick and chose. The numbers are really close to each other, with the US having a few more deaths however look at Germany who has done outstanding through this by comparison not only to us, but literally everyone else. Like us, their cases still appear to be going up, but deaths are going down. But if you take into account Cuomo incompetence on our side, this more than makes up for the anomaly so far in Germany NATION COVID DEATHS POPULATION UK 46,299 67,920,084 France 30,296 65,287,519 Germany 9,240 83,809,800 Italy 35,171 60,453,051 Spain 28,494 46,756,550 Belgium 9,852 11,594,464 TOTAL 159,352 335,821,468 USA 160,335 331,187,544 1 1
shoshin Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Gary M said: The death cult mourns this good news I don't think anyone mourns good news except people who get paid to write headlines at CNN/FOX. Bad news always sells, ever since Irv Weinstein was leading Eyewitness News with coverage of the .22 caliber killer in the 70s. 3 minutes ago, Cinga said: I'm tired of hearing how badly Trump has handled this, and even seeing on the news how Europe did so much better I figured it was high time for a comparison. These numbers are current on the Worldmeter site as of 8/5 around 10am Eastern. I grabbed Western Europe nations to try and get close to our own population, without appearing to pick and chose. The numbers are really close to each other, with the US having a few more deaths however look at Germany who has done outstanding through this by comparison not only to us, but literally everyone else. Like us, their cases still appear to be going up, but deaths are going down. But if you take into account Cuomo incompetence on our side, this more than makes up for the anomaly so far in Germany NATION COVID DEATHS POPULATION UK 46,299 67,920,084 France 30,296 65,287,519 Germany 9,240 83,809,800 Italy 35,171 60,453,051 Spain 28,494 46,756,550 Belgium 9,852 11,594,464 TOTAL 159,352 335,821,468 USA 160,335 331,187,544 Italy, NY Metro, Spain all got hit early when our treatments were often exactly wrong. Germany, Florida, many other places have more comparable statistics and are predictive of trends for places that haven't yet been hit. We will level out as a country in the coming weeks and then have a couple potential inflection points: schools opening and winter. Neither of those, I would think, will cause a spike. But we might see some rises in cases from them. Edited August 5, 2020 by shoshin 1
3rdnlng Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 1 hour ago, BillStime said: it's sometimes appropriate to post the sameshit in more than one thread. You do it all the time though and it's not cool. You are also crusading by posting your TDS in every thread.
IDBillzFan Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: I realize the Left lost its mind in November 2016, but how in the world is the recent southern surge of a contagious virus Trump’s fault? Is the current tropical storm Trump’s fault? We had a wildfire in Southern California last week. Was that Trump’s fault? I just read a leftist post in the Schools thread claiming Trump is responsible for a second-grader getting the virus in an Atlanta school. Trump forced that school to open against the school's wishes, and then he drove to the girl's house to pick her up, drove her to school, removed her mask and pushed her into a crowded school. And then he left the school to play a round of golf. True story. Unhinged doesn't even work to describe them any more. 1
Cinga Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 Since Libs have now switched over to concern about cases over deaths, I added them to the chart along with deaths per case, and deaths per population. Notice the death rate per case is a lot lower for us, while per population about the same. NATION COVID CASES TOTAL TESTS COVID DEATHS POPULATION DEATHS PER CASE DEATHS PER POPULATION UK 306,293 16,942,992 46,299 67,920,084 0.151159 0.00068 France 192,344 2,982,302 30,296 65,287,519 0.157509 0.00046 Germany 213,265 8,066,135 9,240 83,809,800 0.043326 0.00011 Italy 248,419 6,984,589 35,171 60,453,051 0.141579 0.00058 Spain 349,894 7,064,329 28,494 46,756,550 0.081436 0.00061 Belgium 70,648 1,743,265 9,852 11,594,464 0.139452 0.00085 TOTAL 1,380,863 43,783,612 159,352 335,821,468 0.115400 0.00047 USA 4,919,297 61,624,005 160,335 331,187,544 0.032593 0.00048 2 1
Tiberius Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 57 minutes ago, Gary M said: The death cult mourns this good news Had Trump just did his job, there would be fewer deaths instead we get, "It is what it is" Pathetic 2 minutes ago, Cinga said: Since Libs have now switched over to concern about cases over deaths, I added them to the chart along with deaths per case, and deaths per population. Notice the death rate per case is a lot lower for us, while per population about the same. NATION COVID CASES TOTAL TESTS COVID DEATHS POPULATION DEATHS PER CASE DEATHS PER POPULATION UK 306,293 16,942,992 46,299 67,920,084 0.151159 0.00068 France 192,344 2,982,302 30,296 65,287,519 0.157509 0.00046 Germany 213,265 8,066,135 9,240 83,809,800 0.043326 0.00011 Italy 248,419 6,984,589 35,171 60,453,051 0.141579 0.00058 Spain 349,894 7,064,329 28,494 46,756,550 0.081436 0.00061 Belgium 70,648 1,743,265 9,852 11,594,464 0.139452 0.00085 TOTAL 1,380,863 43,783,612 159,352 335,821,468 0.115400 0.00047 USA 4,919,297 61,624,005 160,335 331,187,544 0.032593 0.00048 Trump says that's because we do more testing. More testing equals lower per test death.
Cinga Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Had Trump just did his job, there would be fewer deaths instead we get, "It is what it is" Pathetic Trump says that's because we do more testing. More testing equals lower per test death. Yes, but in every other category, even given the Germany anomaly and the Cuomo bungle are pretty even.
3rdnlng Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, Cinga said: Since Libs have now switched over to concern about cases over deaths, I added them to the chart along with deaths per case, and deaths per population. Notice the death rate per case is a lot lower for us, while per population about the same. NATION COVID CASES TOTAL TESTS COVID DEATHS POPULATION DEATHS PER CASE DEATHS PER POPULATION UK 306,293 16,942,992 46,299 67,920,084 0.151159 0.00068 France 192,344 2,982,302 30,296 65,287,519 0.157509 0.00046 Germany 213,265 8,066,135 9,240 83,809,800 0.043326 0.00011 Italy 248,419 6,984,589 35,171 60,453,051 0.141579 0.00058 Spain 349,894 7,064,329 28,494 46,756,550 0.081436 0.00061 Belgium 70,648 1,743,265 9,852 11,594,464 0.139452 0.00085 TOTAL 1,380,863 43,783,612 159,352 335,821,468 0.115400 0.00047 USA 4,919,297 61,624,005 160,335 331,187,544 0.032593 0.00048 Great work. While Europe has only 28% of the total cases that we have they have tested 71% of the amount of people that we have tested. Deaths and population are basically the same. Europe has a much higher death rate per discovered cases. It would seem that there is an inconsistency in the testing parameters themselves. It wouldn't surprise me in the least to find out that Europe is using test kits from China that are unreliable. 1 1
Tiberius Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 Just now, Cinga said: Yes, but in every other category, even given the Germany anomaly and the Cuomo bungle are pretty even. Cuomo bundle? ?? Florida says hello
GG Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Cinga said: Yes, but in every other category, even given the Germany anomaly and the Cuomo bungle are pretty even. NYC couldn't even align its response between its Health and the Hospitals departments, but it's surely the Federal government's fault. 1
Gary M Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 19 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Had Trump just did his job, there would be fewer deaths instead we get, "It is what it is" What should he have done? When (dates please) should he have done it? And why? (what info was available to make the decision) 1 1
IDBillzFan Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 1 minute ago, GG said: NYC couldn't even align its response between its Health and the Hospitals departments, but it's surely the Federal government's fault. If only more states followed the Cuomo and the NYC Death March, we wouldn't be in this situation! 2
Tiberius Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gary M said: What should he have done? When (dates please) should he have done it? And why? (what info was available to make the decision) You don’t think he made a terrible mistake in telling people it would all be gone in April? This is a pandemic and he passed along harmful, deadly misinformation that people like you believed. Criminal. Still we we don’t have a national strategy for confronting this. Sad.
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