BillStime Posted August 3, 2020 Posted August 3, 2020 35 minutes ago, dpberr said: No elected official in the United States has done an amazing job with COVID19. Each and every one one of them has been incompetent, as if it was a competition. They have managed to screw it up with flair from a President who made a decision just to stop dealing with it to the governors who killed whole economies overreacting to it, listening to advice from health "experts" who are everything but trained in pandemic response and infectious disease. In PA, our governor takes advice from a pediatrician. The biggest political story of 2020 isn't Republican or Democrat. it's legitimately how incompetent we all are, from the voters all the way up. We hire all these idiots and we spend all day defending why we do. LMAO - yea ok.
3rdnlng Posted August 3, 2020 Posted August 3, 2020 1 hour ago, BillStime said: LMAO - yea ok. Get help!
SoCal Deek Posted August 3, 2020 Posted August 3, 2020 2 hours ago, dpberr said: No elected official in the United States has done an amazing job with COVID19. Each and every one one of them has been incompetent, as if it was a competition. They have managed to screw it up with flair from a President who made a decision just to stop dealing with it to the governors who killed whole economies overreacting to it, listening to advice from health "experts" who are everything but trained in pandemic response and infectious disease. In PA, our governor takes advice from a pediatrician. The biggest political story of 2020 isn't Republican or Democrat. it's legitimately how incompetent we all are, from the voters all the way up. We hire all these idiots and we spend all day defending why we do. I beg to differ. I think the vast majority of the response has gone really well. We never overwhelmed our hospital system. We saw only one area, NYC, hit with really trauma level numbers. The PPE shortage was dealt with in record time. Nobody lacked for a ventilator. Vaccines are on the way in record time. Sure, there have been FORECASTS of all manner of dooms day predictions but NONE of them have come true. Americans are adapting to life with a terribly infectious virus for which there are few treatments but very few people outside of the most physically vulnerable have succumbed to it. And most of those have died because the virus is so new that modern medicine hasn’t caught up with it yet. The only place you’ll find doom and gloom is in the News Media who have a profit motive to sell doom and gloom. Regular Americans are doing just fine! Everyone I meet is smiling and living their lives. 1 1
Magox Posted August 4, 2020 Posted August 4, 2020 Great interview. Anders Tegnell, Sweden’s top chief who made the risky and controversial recommendation to not have the draconian style government goes in depth about their situation and why they had higher deaths than Norway and Finland. All the things we have been talking about he discussed. Sweden’s differences in migratory patterns, their population density and the role it plays with the spread. He went on to discuss that viewing COVID-19 in a vacuum is a mistake. That he believes the IFR will be somewhere not too much higher than the common flu. Between .1-.5%. He says that it’s odd that countries are still pushing for masks because there is no new evidence that has come out to suggest they help. He also touches on T cell immunities and how they have most likely reached a herd-like immunity. That his only lament is that they didn’t protect nursing homes better early on. And that they were a success. @Doc Brown Have a listen. I think you will see a lot of the things I mentioned he goes in depth with those things. This think you’d appreciate the added perspective 1 2
BillStime Posted August 4, 2020 Posted August 4, 2020 We are doing very well 159,000 Dead Americans - great job Trump
Gene Frenkle Posted August 4, 2020 Posted August 4, 2020 4 hours ago, B-Man said: Same things, over and over. Dude, seriously? 1
Beast Posted August 4, 2020 Posted August 4, 2020 They're lying to us....... https://thepragmaticconstitutionalist.com/2020/08/theyre-lying-to-us-heres-exactly-how-they-do-it/ 3
Gene Frenkle Posted August 4, 2020 Posted August 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Beast said: They're lying to us....... https://thepragmaticconstitutionalist.com/2020/08/theyre-lying-to-us-heres-exactly-how-they-do-it/ You guys source from the most biased sites I've ever seen.
Beast Posted August 4, 2020 Posted August 4, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said: You guys source from the most biased sites I've ever seen. Biased towards the truth? I'll take that. Go ahead and refute it. Edited August 4, 2020 by Beast 1
Gene Frenkle Posted August 4, 2020 Posted August 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Beast said: Biased towards the truth? I'll take that. Go ahead and refute it. Get a clue. If it's on your go-to sites that you almost always agree with, you're doing it wrong.
Gene Frenkle Posted August 4, 2020 Posted August 4, 2020 Literally anybody can put anything on the internet. You are willfully being led around by the nose. Just now, B-Man said: Something to think about. Vote Wall St. while whining about Main St. Nice.
Beast Posted August 4, 2020 Posted August 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said: Get a clue. If it's on your go-to sites that you almost always agree with, you're doing it wrong. Just what I thought. You can't refute a thing otherwise you'd gleefully be doing so.
B-Man Posted August 4, 2020 Posted August 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said: Vote Wall St. while whining about Main St. Nice. How in God's name do you get whining about "main street" out of that tweet ? It supports opening Main street....................... Are you really even trying Gene ? It just all rote responses from you tonight.
Deranged Rhino Posted August 4, 2020 Posted August 4, 2020 16 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said: You guys source from the most biased sites I've ever seen. Gene, with all respect, the “unbiased” media (establishment types on both sides of the aisle) just got done proving, without equivocation, that they’re liars. They lied, to all of us, for three years about a treasonous president working with a “hostile” foreign nation... Three years. And they’ve not acknowledged it at all. Not one. They instead won Pulitzers, for knowingly lying to their audience. That’s not hyperbole. In a world like that, the ONLY source you can trust is yourself and your own discernment. It’s a skill one has to develop, and takes work. That means reading and considering all open source information — and weeding out the truth from the spin. 3 4
3rdnlng Posted August 4, 2020 Posted August 4, 2020 21 minutes ago, Magox said: Gene, you’ve lost a step. And it was a step he really didn't have. I think 4mer might have hit it on the head so to speak. It was a while back when 4mer discovered that Rogaine if used too often along with Just For Men, destroys brain cells.
WEATHER DOT COM Posted August 4, 2020 Posted August 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: Gene, with all respect, the “unbiased” media (establishment types on both sides of the aisle) just got done proving, without equivocation, that they’re liars. They lied, to all of us, for three years about a treasonous president working with a “hostile” foreign nation... Three years. And they’ve not acknowledged it at all. Not one. They instead won Pulitzers, for knowingly lying to their audience. That’s not hyperbole. In a world like that, the ONLY source you can trust is yourself and your own discernment. It’s a skill one has to develop, and takes work. That means reading and considering all open source information — and weeding out the truth from the spin. And Tracy Beanz, the conservative treehouse, and Brian Cates lover of general flynndicated Gene the cult calls you. Will you answer?
Chef Jim Posted August 4, 2020 Posted August 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Gene Frenkle said: Dude, seriously? Yes seriously!
shoshin Posted August 4, 2020 Posted August 4, 2020 (edited) 22 hours ago, Magox said: This is why it’s called panic porn. When mainstream outlets promote sensationalist stories and headlines, view it with extreme skepticism and do your own research that is outside of the mainstream. They have no incentive that involves the whole truth. Sorry I haven't been here to check the work of the "data" put out by the Twitter mob. Looks like a bogus graphic or some seriously manipulated measurement. The data from TMC (the largest Houston hospital system--one of the largest in the world), which has a lot of data online and was pretty easy to find, looks more like what reasonable people would expect. Bed usage did increase exponentially and it's now on its way down. Their website slices this data a lot of ways but no matter how you look at it, it tells the same story. Let's stop pretending this virus is a nothingburger at the same time we stop pretending it's the end of the world. Edited August 4, 2020 by shoshin
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